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“The idea that this country may acquire territories anywhere upon the earth, by conquest or treaty, and hold them as mere colonies or provinces,—the people inhabiting them to enjoy only such rights as Congress chooses to accord to them,—is wholly inconsistent with the spirit and genius, as well as with the words, of the Constitution." - Justice John Harlan, dissenting in the Insular Cases, 1901
1 posted on 02/01/2006 5:48:46 AM PST by cll
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To: cll

sht or get off the pot.

i'm all in favor of statehood. I think that any place that want's to join, and can meet the criteria should petition for statehood.


2 posted on 02/01/2006 5:50:24 AM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you.)
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To: cll

Cut them loose, we don't need the additional handout seekers.


3 posted on 02/01/2006 5:53:02 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: rrstar96; AuH2ORepublican; livius; JRios1968; adorno; Teófilo; wtc911; Willie Green; CGVet58; ...

Puerto Rico ping.

Please FreepMail if you want on or off the list.


4 posted on 02/01/2006 5:56:45 AM PST by cll
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To: cll
I support the following:

1. Make English the official language of the U.S., via a constitutional amendment.

2. Allowing Puerto Rico statehood if they agree to the above, and prove that they can survive without extensive transfer payments.

You know where I stand. If I were an inhabitant of PR, I would vote to maintain Commonwealth status. Get the best of both worlds that way. Between independence or statehood,however, I would choose independence, whether as a Boricua or, as I am, a gringo from the mainland.

9 posted on 02/01/2006 5:59:46 AM PST by Clemenza
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To: cll
The plebiscite should have two options:
1) Statehood; or
2) Independence.

If Statehood is preferred by the people of PR, they must agree to make English the official language of PR.
11 posted on 02/01/2006 6:03:39 AM PST by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: cll

I think that the great people of Puerto Rico deserve to become the wealthiest and most prosperous Latin American nation. Becoming instead the poorest and most culturally isolated American state makes little sense.


15 posted on 02/01/2006 6:21:16 AM PST by SedVictaCatoni (<><)
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To: cll

Give 'em independence.


23 posted on 02/01/2006 6:34:09 AM PST by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: albertp; Allosaurs_r_us; Abram; AlexandriaDuke; Americanwolf; Annie03; Baby Bear; bassmaner; ...
Libertarian ping.To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here
31 posted on 02/01/2006 6:44:44 AM PST by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: cll

Question: Does Puerto Rico pay income taxes?


34 posted on 02/01/2006 6:47:45 AM PST by SoCal_Republican (Bubbleheads for Bush)
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To: cll

What about all those special status drug companies in PR?
Where will the politcal money from their PAC's go?


35 posted on 02/01/2006 6:49:47 AM PST by Waverunner
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To: cll

lets just cut them off
let them be independent that way we wont have to subisidize their existence


46 posted on 02/01/2006 7:02:19 AM PST by DM1
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To: cll; AuH2ORepublican; Cacique; All
Facts:

31% of the population of Puerto Rico is employed in the public sector. That DOES NOT include police officers or civilian employees on military bases, that would bring that figure to close to 50%.

32.8% of personal income in Puerto Rico is attributable to TRANSFER PAYMENTS from Washington (ie welfare), as of 2003.

In 1989, Puerto Rico received 72 times more food stamps than Mississippi, half the island's population currently receives food stamps as of 2002.

48 posted on 02/01/2006 7:06:02 AM PST by Clemenza
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To: cll
Image hosted by Photobucket.com cut that POS lose, rename it New-Haiti and be done with it...
55 posted on 02/01/2006 7:16:40 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: cll

Does Puerto Rico produce anything?

Why is the U.S. Hanging on to it if there is no benefit to us?


64 posted on 02/01/2006 7:23:50 AM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: cll
...should organize another plebiscite, offering voters a choice between statehood, on the one hand, and independence or free association with the United States, on the other...

This is a false premise.

Puerto Rico has three choices: Petition for statehood, or petition for independence, or remain a Commonwealth. The first two require initiative action by Puerto Rico and approval by the United States. The third requires no action.

Neither statehood nor independence is a unilateral option. Both Puerto Rico and the United States must approve it.

In the case of statehood, Puerto Rico must convince the United States that it is advantageous to the United States to admit another state. So far I have seen no effort to do so.

In the case of independence, Puerto Rico must convince the United States that Puerto Rico is ready to stand on its own in the world community of sovereign states. So far I have seen no effort to do so.

What I have seen to date is only a lot of verbiage saying how good statehood would be for Puerto Rico. And that just doesn't cut it.

Neither statehood nor independence is a right. It must be earned.

80 posted on 02/01/2006 7:41:21 AM PST by DakotaGator
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To: cll

If politics didn't matter, I'd be happy to see PR choose statehood or independance. But they do, and we don't need more lib control in a near 50/50 Senate/House/Electoral College/Everything else, if PR becomes a state. Not right now anyways.


100 posted on 02/01/2006 8:20:33 AM PST by right-wingin_It
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To: cll
I say we put them to a mock presidential vote to determine their political leanings. Too many votes for the Dim. candidate, independence. Overwhelming Conservative votes, statehood.
135 posted on 02/01/2006 12:36:07 PM PST by wolfcreek
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To: cll

A dissenting minority opinion that flew in the face of practice and law going back to the original founders, signers and authors of the Constitution.


137 posted on 02/01/2006 12:44:20 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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