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Puerto Rico’s status lies in the hands of Congress
The Hill ^ | 2/01/2006 | Oxford Analytica

Posted on 02/01/2006 5:48:44 AM PST by cll

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To: AuH2ORepublican

"culturally conservative"

... but economically leftist? So that the Republicans would be big government/neo conservatives not small goverment fiscal conservatives?

In other words government would be in our face and in our checkbook. Not something I thought an AuH2O Republican would favor.


161 posted on 02/01/2006 5:09:34 PM PST by evilC ([573]Tag Server Error, Tag not found)
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To: YankeeGirl
Doesn't sound a whole lot different than our southern heritage.

Really? Pass the koolaid sweetheart.

162 posted on 02/01/2006 5:28:35 PM PST by wardaddy (Southern American)
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To: wtc911

That is about what I figured but you said it better and nicer.


163 posted on 02/01/2006 5:29:42 PM PST by wardaddy (Southern American)
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To: Revenge of Sith

I'm a Southern Prod and have found Catholics to be more socially liberal than me but that's purely my observations.


164 posted on 02/01/2006 5:33:10 PM PST by wardaddy (Southern American)
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To: backtothestreets

Please read Post #27...


165 posted on 02/01/2006 7:59:12 PM PST by MplsSteve
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To: dvwjr

Please read Post #27...


166 posted on 02/01/2006 8:00:49 PM PST by MplsSteve
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To: Jim Noble
If more than 25% of the population is opposed to it, it will never work.

If even 10% are against it, it will never work. I say this as someone who was in the San Juan hotel when it was burned down by the Puerto Rican liberation group. More than one hundred people died in that fire. The head of the group that set the fire had been accused of the Connecticut Brinks robbery in which guards will killed and the money stolen to underwrite the separatist movement. They are a group that will never accept statehood.

167 posted on 02/01/2006 8:14:42 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: backtothestreets
Its sure worked with Puerto Rico, hasn't it? The majority of the population speaks broken English, as a SECOND language. Their primary language is gutteral, Carribbean Spanish (the equivalent of patois or Ebonics).

Remember that 1. It took the introduction of mandatory public schooling and the banning of any language other than English to get the Cajun and Creole populations of Louisiana to start speaking English. In other word, it took government action to correct their behavior. As a matter of fact, little cajun kids would have their noses rubbed into the chalkboard if they spoke French. Would you like to do the same for the kids of PR?

2. The areas aquired from Mexico were largely uninhabited, with cities such as Los Angeles and San Francisco, to say nothing of East Texas, already largely Anglo by the time of the Mexican War. In those regions where the Latinos remained dominant (western New Mexico, South Texas) Spanish remained the language of choice, although, like Lousiana, the introduction of mandatory public schooling in English caused its usage to dissipate by the mid 1950s. It has only been in recent decades with increased immigration from Mexico that Spanish has made a comeback in the region.

168 posted on 02/01/2006 9:15:52 PM PST by Clemenza (I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked...)
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To: backtothestreets
Did you see the statistics above I posted on welfare dependency and how a third of the cash flow into the average Puerto Rican's pocketbook comes from government transfer payments?
169 posted on 02/01/2006 9:18:28 PM PST by Clemenza (I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked...)
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To: CGVet58; cll

Re: #136. That is, from my perspective, the best post on this thread.


170 posted on 02/01/2006 9:24:17 PM PST by Clemenza (I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked...)
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To: JRios1968

Many PR transplants to the mainland would refer to you as a "coconut." ;-)


171 posted on 02/01/2006 9:29:52 PM PST by Clemenza (I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked...)
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To: wardaddy; Revenge of Sith
I'm a Southern Prod and have found Catholics to be more socially liberal than me but that's purely my observations.

Correct, if you look at the most Catholic states in the U.S. (Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New York, and New Jersey), you would notice that they are the most socially liberal in the country.

Don't let the other Freepers try to sell you on that line that these folks are CINOs. If that is the case, the majority of U.S. Catholics are CINOs.

Take it as you wish from a lapsed Catholic hedonist.

172 posted on 02/01/2006 9:32:19 PM PST by Clemenza (I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked...)
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To: Clemenza

My experience in visiting PR has been that while the upper and upper middle classes speak decent English, the blue collar and lower class inhabitants (majority of the island's population) speak poor or broken English. I guess that would make them no different from the average inhabitant of Detroit or South Atlanta. ;-)

Another thing to keep in mind: Seven Democratic or Five Democratic and Two RINO congressmen, and two Dem Senators.


Good stuff Clemenza as usual....was about to type the same. Give them the Independence...if they get electoral votes in Presidential elections...I don't want the President being decided by Juan Martinez of Viques. No thanks...


173 posted on 02/01/2006 9:32:26 PM PST by My Favorite Headache ("Scientology is dangerous stuff,it's like forming a religion based around Johnny Quest and Haji.")
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To: Clemenza

Wow, then PR makes Washington, DC look like a paradise of free enterprise and initiative, as if that were possible!


174 posted on 02/01/2006 9:44:34 PM PST by Enchante (Democrats: "We are ALL broken and worn out, our party & ideas, what else is new?")
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To: Clemenza
Many PR transplants to the mainland would refer to you as a "coconut." ;-)

Oh well, it isn't like I care what THEY think. I am proud of what I have accomplished on MY OWN. Guess that's why I'm a Conservative and a Republican (BTW, I have seen myself as a Republican my entire conscious life.)

175 posted on 02/01/2006 10:07:11 PM PST by JRios1968 ("Cogito, ergo FReep": I think, therefore I FReep.)
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To: JRios1968
Oh well, it isn't like I care what THEY think. I am proud of what I have accomplished on MY OWN. Guess that's why I'm a Conservative and a Republican (BTW, I have seen myself as a Republican my entire conscious life.)

Amen to you!

176 posted on 02/01/2006 10:20:22 PM PST by Clemenza (I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked...)
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To: Clemenza

folks on a conservative website touting statehood for a demonstrably Democrat voting bloc is pretty bizarro

especially when our hold of power is so feeble


177 posted on 02/01/2006 10:35:43 PM PST by wardaddy (Southern American)
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To: wardaddy

Correct. Today has been depressing on this site. First seeing so called "conservatives" drink the Kool Aid on Giussolini for President, and now the PR statehood brigade.


178 posted on 02/01/2006 10:43:51 PM PST by Clemenza (I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked...)
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To: Clemenza

Giussolini...lol


179 posted on 02/01/2006 10:50:17 PM PST by wardaddy (Southern American)
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To: cll
Close to 50% of the electorate favor the pro-statehood party. ........... This is a matter of civil rights. Four million Americans live under an apartheid system, ruled at the whim of Congress.

"Apartheid system"?

Cut the melodramatics. The choice for the Puerto Rican voter has been clear in several elections and the majority of Puerto Rican voters have spoken:

Prefieren que Puerto Rico sea un estado libre asociado SIN impuestos en vez de que Puerto Rico sea un estado de los EEUU CON impuestos o que sea un estado independiente. Tambien entra el tema de la perdida de la cultura (como paso en Hawaii) si Puerto Rico es nada mas que otro estado de los EEUU o la perdida de los beneficios de ser estado libre asocido si Puerto Rico es una republica independiente.

No le heches la culpa a los americanos por las deciciones que han hecho la mayoria de los puertoriqueños por su propia voluntad.

180 posted on 02/01/2006 10:58:34 PM PST by Polybius
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