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Panel: Teflon Chemical a Likely Carcinogen
Associated Press ^ | Mon Jan 30, 2006 | RANDALL CHASE

Posted on 01/31/2006 3:13:13 PM PST by presidio9

A chemical used in the manufacture of Teflon and other nonstick and stain-resistant products should be considered a "likely" carcinogen, according to an independent scientific review panel advising the Environmental Protection Agency.

The recommendation included in the panel's final draft report is consistent with its preliminary finding, which went beyond the EPA's own determination that there was only "suggestive evidence" from animal studies that perfluorooctanoic acid and its salts are potential human carcinogens.

"The predominant panel view was that the descriptor 'likely to be carcinogenic' was more consistent with currently available data, while a few panel members reached the conclusion that the current evidence fails to exceed the descriptor 'suggestive,' of carcinogenicity," the panel said in a draft report released Monday.

Officials with Wilmington, Del.-based DuPont Co., the sole North American producer of PFOA, took issue with the panel's conclusions.

"We disagree with the panel's recommendation on the cancer classification, and we continue to support the EPA's draft risk assessment," said Robert Rickard, director of health and environmental sciences for DuPont.

"This reflects recommended classification; what's more important is risk, and we are confident that PFOA does not pose a cancer risk to the general public," added Rickard, who said the carcinogenicity classification was based on animal data and does not reflect data from human studies.

PFOA is a processing aid used in the manufacturing of fluoropolymers, which have a wide variety of product applications, including nonstick cookware. The chemical also can be a byproduct in the manufacturing of fluorotelomers used in surface protection products for applications such as stain-resistant textiles and grease-resistant food wrapping.

Besides disagreeing with the EPA on the potential carcinogenicity of PFOA, also known as C-8, a majority of members on the review panel also recommended that the EPA's risk assessment include additional data on PFOA's potential to cause liver, testicular, pancreatic and breast cancers. A majority of panel members also recommended that the chemical's effects on hormones and on the nervous and immune systems be included in the risk assessment, and that studies should not be limited by age, gender or species in assessing human risk.

The findings of the panel, which was established by the EPA's Science Advisory Board, will be reviewed by SAB officials in a Feb. 15 teleconference.

"The real outcome of this is the panel going back and saying `You've got to include this extra stuff here; it wasn't really a rigorous analysis," said Tim Kropp, senior scientist for the Environmental Working Group, a Washington, D.C.-based nonprofit organization whose work has prompted increased government scrutiny of PFOA.

While the EPA is free to accept or reject the panel's recommendations, Kropp said it rare for the EPA to dismiss an advisory board's advice.

"They've asked them to do a more rigorous analysis, to do a more scientific method of determining risk, and you can't argue with that," he said. "That's just good science."

EPA officials declined to say how the agency might respond to the report.

"It's sort of what we expected," said EPA deputy administrator Marcus Peacock, adding that he had not read the full report. "There's more we don't know here than what we do know."

Susan Hazen, EPA's acting assistant administrator for the Office of Prevention, Pesticides and Toxic Substances, said much of the work aimed at better understanding PFOA already is underway.

Hazen and Peacock also pointed to an EPA initiative announced last week asking DuPont and seven other companies that manufacture or use PFOA, its precursors, and similar compounds to reduce environmental releases and levels of those chemicals in products by 95 percent no later than 2010, using the year 2000 as a baseline.

The EPA also wants the industry to work toward the elimination of PFOA and related chemicals from emissions and products by no later than 2015.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; US: Delaware
KEYWORDS: cancer; chemicals; dupont; health; teflon
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To: presidio9

The EPA is crooked, dirty and filled with communists.


21 posted on 01/31/2006 4:48:28 PM PST by sergeantdave (And on the second day The Lord created February - the slowest month of the year.)
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To: presidio9

"The EPA also wants the industry to work toward the elimination of PFOA and related chemicals from emissions and products by no later than 2015"

if it's not in the final product, why would anybody (including dupont) object to eliminating it from products by 2015?


22 posted on 01/31/2006 4:48:58 PM PST by drhogan
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To: sergeantdave

Kind of like the rest of DC.


23 posted on 01/31/2006 4:50:43 PM PST by ovrtaxt ("I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born."- Reagan)
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To: Pukin Dog

"Teflon is safe if heated in combination with Crisco, Cornmeal and Catfish fillets."


I'm afraid I'll have to verify that for myself. 7 O'clock okay? I'll bring the hushpuppies and cold beer. ;)


24 posted on 01/31/2006 4:54:44 PM PST by DemforBush
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To: calljack

If you put your coffemaker on the stove burner, and set fire to it, it will kill everyone in the house.


25 posted on 01/31/2006 4:55:44 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (When I learn everything, I will know nothing.)
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To: ovrtaxt

The Rapanos case will be in front of the USSC this spring. The EPA engaged in extortion, perjury, trespassing and civil rights violations.

What will come out in this case will offer an opportunity for Congress to clean out that filthy hellhole of goosestepping communists. But the castrated poodles in congress are afraid that cleaning out that den of Marxist pigs would upset the brainless soccer moms who send $25 to the fascists at the Sierra Club.


26 posted on 01/31/2006 5:24:05 PM PST by sergeantdave (And on the second day The Lord created February - the slowest month of the year.)
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To: sergeantdave

Sounds like you hate commies as much as I do. Go Sarge!


27 posted on 01/31/2006 5:26:36 PM PST by ovrtaxt ("I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born."- Reagan)
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To: Straight Vermonter

Thank you for the reply.


28 posted on 01/31/2006 6:01:44 PM PST by Steveone (Liberalism is a brain tumor!)
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To: presidio9

Down With Teflon!

Vive La Stainless Steel!

Vive La Pan Sauce!


29 posted on 01/31/2006 6:03:40 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: calljack

I remember that too...I have one teflon pan which is quite oversized and easy to clean, but I could just as easily go back to using a seasoned iron pan.


30 posted on 01/31/2006 6:37:46 PM PST by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: Paul C. Jesup
Let me guess, the panel was composed of a greenpeace member, a ALF member and a ELF member.

More than likely, it was made up of benefactors of the Trial Lawyers who are just finishing off the asbestos industry, and cannot wait for peer-reviewed studies which might slow things down on the looting and plunder schedule.

ANY polymer (Nylon, Acetal, and especially PVC) will pyrolize to yeild toxic compounds. At a higher temperature, PTFE* can as well.

This one is just too easy to penetrate.


* telomer.

31 posted on 02/04/2006 7:55:47 AM PST by Gorzaloon
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To: Gorzaloon
ANY polymer (Nylon, Acetal, and especially PVC) will pyrolize to yeild toxic compounds. At a higher temperature, PTFE* can as well.

Most material people use can turn toxic then heated (beyond recommend standard)/burned, from wood, to ceramics to plastics.

And it is the enviro-nazis leading the charge on this (as reported by Fox News a few weeks ago), not the trial lawyers.

32 posted on 02/04/2006 12:32:00 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Gorzaloon
ANY polymer (Nylon, Acetal, and especially PVC) will pyrolize to yeild toxic compounds. At a higher temperature, PTFE* can as well.

Most material people use can turn toxic when heated (beyond recommend standard)/burned, from wood, to ceramics to plastics.

And it is the enviro-nazis leading the charge on this (as reported by Fox News a few weeks ago), not the trial lawyers.

33 posted on 02/04/2006 12:32:12 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: calljack
I have heard that if you put a teflon pan on the stove and really overheat it, to the point that it is burning up, it will release enough toxic crap to kill birds you may have in your house. Any truth to this or is it an urban legend??

That is absolutely true. I worked for many years in a PTFE manufacturing plant. Burning PTFE emits very toxic gases. It releases Phosgene, PFIB, and other assorted nasties. Unlikely to kill an person, but it could pose a heath hazard.

Google "Fluon Fever"

34 posted on 02/04/2006 12:39:31 PM PST by Fzob (Why does this tag line keep showing up?)
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To: Fzob

Learning how to cook properly and not burning the tflon plan would probably solve the problem........


35 posted on 02/04/2006 12:42:32 PM PST by Gabz
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To: presidio9

I work in this industry. PFOA's are used in the manufacturing process, and there is almost none left over in the product seen by consummers. The main concern presently is that PFOA is a bioaccumulater. I.e. your body cannot get rid of it easily. To date most of the concern in industry is based on legal liabilities rather than medical or health liabilities to the consumer.

PFOA are a legitimate health concern of workers, but not for consumers. Also to make this even more complicated there are no good alternative product to replace PFOA's at this time. There are some, but without some breakthrough in the future many important elastomer products will vanish with a ban on C-8.


36 posted on 02/04/2006 12:47:59 PM PST by Fzob (Why does this tag line keep showing up?)
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To: Gabz

I agree, I've yet to pick up the paper and read about the family that died because the frying pan was coated with PTFE.


37 posted on 02/04/2006 12:50:14 PM PST by Fzob (Why does this tag line keep showing up?)
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To: calljack
I have not used teflon pans in years because of my birds.
38 posted on 02/04/2006 12:52:01 PM PST by tiredoflaundry (I'll admit it , I'm a Snow Flake !(Snoq) The rest of my tagline redacted by court order.)
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To: Fzob

Same here.

Personally I have very little faith in the EPA.


39 posted on 02/04/2006 12:59:02 PM PST by Gabz
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To: presidio9

If I die, I die, just as long as my eggs don't stick.


40 posted on 02/04/2006 1:00:49 PM PST by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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