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Ranch is signed over to 2 immigrants
Arizona Daily Star ^ | January 26, 2006

Posted on 01/31/2006 1:23:08 PM PST by Irontank

Two immigrants are now the legal owners of a Douglas-area ranch seized from an anti-immigrant activist. Documents granting the 70-acre ranch once owned by Casey Nethercott to Fatima del Socorro Leiva Medina and Edwin Alfredo Mancia Gonzales were signed by a Cochise County judge on Monday.

Nethercott is serving a five-year prison term in Texas stemming from a 2003 incident on a Texas ranch where he confronted Leiva and Mancia and was accused of pistol-whipping them. He was acquitted of assault but convicted of being a felon in possession of a firearm. Nethercott was a member of the group Ranch Rescue, which works to protect private property along the southern U.S. border.

The Southern Poverty Law Center brought suit against Nethercott on behalf of the two immigrants. Nethercott did not respond and a Texas judge ordered him to pay $500,000.

Also named in the suit were Jack Foote, the founder of Ranch Rescue and the owners of the Texas ranch, Joe and Betty Sutton.

The Suttons settled for $100,000. Foote also didn't offer a defense and was ordered to pay $500,000. Leiva and Mancia were illegal immigrants from El Salvador. They received temporary legal status in the United States as crime victims and are seeking visas to stay longer.

They don't plan to hold on to the ranch, said Kelley Bruner, an attorney for the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Instead the property will be sold, with the proceeds going to the immigrants


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; atf; banglist; batf; bordersecurity; bushamnesty; disgusting; illegalaliens; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; invasionusa; openborders; otms
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To: chris1

Unfortunately not all of the illegals are from Mexico either- wonder how many illegal muslims are here via our southern border?


101 posted on 01/31/2006 2:34:06 PM PST by MissEdie
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To: girlangler

Good move on your part. The people who created this
outrage need to be outed and the sooner the better.


102 posted on 01/31/2006 2:39:48 PM PST by davisfh
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To: MeanWestTexan

Actually, he did not beat them. He won the criminal case (in Texas) and was acquitted of assault against the illegals, but was found guilty at the same time of being a felon in possession of a firearm and was sentenced to 5 years in prison.

It was while he was in prison that the SPLC filed a civil suit against him, which he failed to contest.


103 posted on 01/31/2006 2:42:01 PM PST by HiJinx (~ Proud Poppa & Father ~ Grateful Husband ~)
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To: Iconoclast2

The judge who found against Nethercott did so in Texas.

The Arizona judge simply affirmed the Tesas Judge's order to transfer title of the property to the plaintiffs.


104 posted on 01/31/2006 2:43:40 PM PST by HiJinx (~ Proud Poppa & Father ~ Grateful Husband ~)
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To: HiJinx

Even in prison, he could have answered the lawsuit with a general denial. Postage would have been free.


105 posted on 01/31/2006 2:52:14 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: Irontank

Banglist keyword added because of nature of article.


106 posted on 01/31/2006 2:56:51 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: HiJinx

And then the State of Texas siezed the rest of his fixed assets.


107 posted on 01/31/2006 2:57:33 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: Thom Pain

Billy was also giving them grants he raided from Social Security


108 posted on 01/31/2006 2:58:33 PM PST by joesnuffy (A camel once bit our sister.. but we knew what to do.. we gathered rocks and squashed her!)
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To: highball

I am assuming the others were judgment-proof. The property owners did not "never respond", they settled. Presumably they settled because they had no way of proving they were innocent because the witness was in jail. I do not think you can spring a witness to testify in a civil matter, but I could be wrong.


109 posted on 01/31/2006 3:02:58 PM PST by Iconoclast2 (Two wings of the same bird of prey . . .)
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To: Irontank
They don't plan to hold on to the ranch, said Kelley Bruner, an attorney for the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Heck no. They don't want to live on land overrun by illegals.

Besides, they need to pay off the attorneys.

110 posted on 01/31/2006 3:16:45 PM PST by Dr._Joseph_Warren
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To: MeanWestTexan

Absolutely agreed. Many posters are taking the AZ judge to task, although the egregious action occured in TX.


111 posted on 01/31/2006 4:08:24 PM PST by HiJinx (~ Proud Poppa & Father ~ Grateful Husband ~)
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To: enraged; billhilly; Diana in Wisconsin; proud_yank; All

Actually, I just wanted the details, and how it may have related to the subject of this thread. I'll read your reply later, got too many deadlines and comittments at the moment.

No, I wasn't accusing you of being a bushbot (not sure what that is).

I am a Bush fan, but am getting sick and tired of the open borders (illegals, not legal immigration). Since Bush can't be reelected, I intend to let my elected officials know how I feel (I'm speaking financial contributions and my very loud voice). Besides, unless I am a dufuss or something, I understand CONGRESS passes/makes laws.

I agree with other freepers -- the southern border will be the pivotal event in the next elections, and should be.

Anyway, this case IS WRONG. This judge is WRONG.

If I rough up somebody tresspassing on my property, legal or ILLEGAL resident, can they take my land away and give it to the trespasser?

What is this -- Great Britain? GRRRRRRRRRRRRR


112 posted on 01/31/2006 4:09:48 PM PST by girlangler (I'd rather be fishing)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Well, then there must be more to this story.

I still can't fanthom rewarding an illegal alien, in the process of breaking the law and comitting that offense, for his crime.


113 posted on 01/31/2006 4:14:33 PM PST by girlangler (I'd rather be fishing)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
My understanding is that foreigners can own land in mexico but only in certain areas.
114 posted on 01/31/2006 4:39:48 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: girlangler
Anyway, this case IS WRONG. This judge is WRONG.

The defendant defaulted. The judge had no discretion.

I can sue you for the craziest thing in the world, and if you don't respond, I am entitled to a default judgment. So don't blame the judge.

115 posted on 01/31/2006 4:58:09 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Okay, you're right.

But can I at least blame it on Bush? Poverty? The War on Drugs? American Imperialism ?:)

Wonder why the plaintiff didn't respond? Like I said, there must be MUCH more to this story. Of course, there usually is to every story.

Thanks for pointing this out to me.


116 posted on 01/31/2006 5:06:53 PM PST by girlangler (I'd rather be fishing)
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To: DustyMoment
Absolutely DISgraceful!!!I don't condone Nethercott pistol-whipping these people if, in fact, he did, but taking a 70 acre ranch and giving it to criminals is not only wrong, it violates a principle foundation of the law.

Article clearly states Nethercutt was acquitted of the assault (pistol-whipping) charge. With that acquittal, there was no legal grounds for the civil suit...

the infowarrior

118 posted on 01/31/2006 7:51:24 PM PST by infowarrior (TANSTAAFL)
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To: Doogle
REALITY...they sell the farm and move back to Mexico with the settlement and profits from the farm...

Reality, the SPLC will get the lion's share of the settlement, *and* the profits from the sale of Nethercutt's ranch. The two illegals, who aren't Mexican, but El Salvadorans, will in all likelihood *not* return to El Salvador, but remain here, more welfare state statistics...

the infowarrior

119 posted on 01/31/2006 7:54:29 PM PST by infowarrior (TANSTAAFL)
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To: MeanWestTexan
I suspect he beat these people within an inch of their lives --- not acting in self-defense, defense of his property, or trying to restrain them until La Migra came.

Read *all* the article. Nethercutt was *acquitted* of the criminal charge. This was the SPLC doing a "reverse OJ Simpson" move, using these Slavadoran illegals as cover. They couldn't "get" him on the criminal charge, so they waited until he was incarcerated on an unrelated charge, then filed their civil suit, simply to send a message to property owners throughout the Southwest that if you don't agree with the border situation as it stands, you *will* be silent in your disagreement...

the infowarrior

120 posted on 01/31/2006 8:01:20 PM PST by infowarrior (TANSTAAFL)
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