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U.S. Brings Back the .45
Strategy Page ^ | January 27, 2006

Posted on 01/29/2006 11:14:04 AM PST by John Jorsett

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To: Bob
As I understand it, the Geneva Convention prohibits the use of hollow points.

I dont understand why the US even puts up with the Geneva BS. Every other country wipes their butt with it. We shoud start using hollow and soft points as well as incindiary weapons, and other weapons prohibited by it.

161 posted on 01/29/2006 12:53:16 PM PST by Paul_Denton (Stom ta jora Ahmadinejad)
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To: hiredhand

That is consistent with what I have seen and what I have heard.


162 posted on 01/29/2006 12:54:00 PM PST by ghostcat
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To: glock rocks
I tend to think less highly of the Glock .45 and .40 s. There have been disturbing reports of a fair number of Kb's in those calibers. (Kb's = Kaboom!!!). The probable cause is lack of case support near the case web. Glock has made at least 3 alterations on the Quiet to the design of the barrel to address the issue but has refused to publicly acknowledge that there is a problem. I only know of 1 Kb in a glock 9mm. The 9mm glock barrel design is definitely Superior to the design of the .45 and .40 barrels. Incidentally these are factory ammo Kb's not with reloads.

Glock bump. Figured this would interest you.

163 posted on 01/29/2006 12:54:07 PM PST by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: John Lenin
Ridiculous, a kinder, gentler bullet ?

Rediculous indeed. Dealing with suicidal terrorists demands all the killing power we can get. And the Geneva Convention serves no real purpose anyway.

164 posted on 01/29/2006 12:54:57 PM PST by Paul_Denton (Stom ta jora Ahmadinejad)
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To: hiredhand
Next month they are starting a shooting package that will really test the stamina of the gun.
165 posted on 01/29/2006 12:55:22 PM PST by Recon Dad (Force Recon Dad)
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To: Paul_Denton

A 22 can do some mean damage if it hits your rib cage and starts bouncing around.


166 posted on 01/29/2006 12:58:15 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: John Jorsett

My hand gun of choice has always been .45 1911. Full size and compact carry. And I didn't even have to go to West Point to fiqure out this was the best "heater" ever made.


167 posted on 01/29/2006 12:59:55 PM PST by WKUHilltopper
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To: penelopesire
Non-state terrorist enemies of the US are not parties to the Geneva Conventions...so screw it.. (wink)

I agree! Even when fighting force-on-force we should just tell the Geneva Conventions to go pound sand.

168 posted on 01/29/2006 1:01:18 PM PST by Paul_Denton (Stom ta jora Ahmadinejad)
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To: Joe Brower

Have you seen this, Joe?


169 posted on 01/29/2006 1:03:24 PM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: musicman

The Desert Eagle. One of my favorites :)


170 posted on 01/29/2006 1:05:18 PM PST by Paul_Denton (Stom ta jora Ahmadinejad)
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To: hiredhand

I beleive you are correct, the same thing occured in the rifle target shooting fraternity and the issue was resolved by using an innert filler (cotton balls) to hold the powder in place. Powders are designed to burn at a specific rate and that rate is controlled by grain size, shape, and coating. Changing the surface area amount exposed to burning can cause the charge to burn faster causing a spike in pressure.


171 posted on 01/29/2006 1:05:32 PM PST by ghostcat
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To: John Jorsett

It's about time!


172 posted on 01/29/2006 1:07:10 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Cheburashka
War crime under the Hague Convention.

And it should not be. Why should we be forced to use 'kinder gentler' bullets? Especially against barbarians who are willing to blow themselves up.

173 posted on 01/29/2006 1:08:30 PM PST by Paul_Denton (Stom ta jora Ahmadinejad)
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To: yarddog

Sig P226 in 9mm was my last purchase about four months ago. When we moved from upstate NY to NC, I bought a P232 for carry. Both in stainless. We like them a lot.


174 posted on 01/29/2006 1:08:44 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: John Lenin

"Safer weapons and safer bullets.."


175 posted on 01/29/2006 1:08:44 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: hiredhand

yup... and flashover's even Worse in a rifle!!!


176 posted on 01/29/2006 1:08:54 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: jess35

Use 45 +Ps..


177 posted on 01/29/2006 1:10:07 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: hiredhand
They were not double charging on purpose. They were loading fast powder that didn't fill the case, such as WW231 or Bullseye, and not noticing the double charge. The theory of detonation, or flash over as you call it, has never been proven.

And a double charge will not destroy a pistol if the case fails first. It actually acts as a safety valve and releases pressure down the mag well, usually blowing the mag out and cracking the grips on a 1911. This is one reason the pachymer grips were so popular, they had steel inserts in them.

I can't find any reference to the federal recall of 40S&W ammo, but will continue to look.

178 posted on 01/29/2006 1:10:49 PM PST by Double Tap
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To: Wilhelm Tell

1970 Series or later had a bushing on the barrel to improve accuracy.


179 posted on 01/29/2006 1:13:26 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Erik Latranyi
Funny, it was crazed, junked-up Filipinos that made the Army adopt the .45 nearly 100 years ago!

crazed moros requires 45 caliber

You're right.

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During the American occupation of the Philippines in the early 1900s, Moros, marked by tiger-eyes and red headbands - signifying a resolve to kill until killed - strode singly down the streets blading everything in their path, embracing the belief that every slain Christian assured their places in heaven. So tenacious was the Moros’ rampage that hundreds of reports by American soldiers surfaced, stating that the slugs of .38-caliber pistols failed to stop the advancing Moros. As a result of those reports, the .45-caliber pistol was designed and issued to American servicemen. Although the Moros’ religious fervor was a crucial element in their destruction, it was the use of their bladed weapons that allowed the bloody chaos to succeed. The art they so deftly employed was Kali.

180 posted on 01/29/2006 1:14:12 PM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("fake but accurate": NY Times)
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