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City sues citizens
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | January 28, 2006 | WorldNetDaily

Posted on 01/29/2006 7:19:46 AM PST by MrEdd

The city of St. Pete Beach, Fla., has filed suit against five residents who say they are opposed to a redevelopment plan officials claim will increase population and tax bases.

In what appears to be another case of eminent domain, with the city claiming an unchallengeable right to redevelop the quiet beachfront community, officials say they retained legal services after the rebellious residents collected signatures on a petition demanding the issue be put to a vote, WTSP-TV in Tampa-St. Petersburg reported yesterday.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: eminentdomain; eminentdomainabuse; florida; kelo; landgrab
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We need to make sure the pollitical alignment of the Kelo supreme court majority stays in the limelight every time the left tries to shift the agenda to any other legal consideration. Eminent domain can bury them and all the whining at DU can not make the Kelo 5 coservatives.
1 posted on 01/29/2006 7:19:47 AM PST by MrEdd
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To: MrEdd
Here's something this government agency might want to read:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

2 posted on 01/29/2006 7:24:55 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: MrEdd
Someone get these folks in contact with the ADF (American Defense Foundation) they are the good guys and they are helping beat back successfully that,............. yuck ................ other legal abomination that has plagued the nation for far far far too long.
3 posted on 01/29/2006 7:27:14 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: MrEdd

Looks like the arrogance of these city pols will be met with a well deserved thunderous backlash.


4 posted on 01/29/2006 7:28:02 AM PST by demkicker (democrats and terrorists are familiar bedfellows)
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To: SandRat

The solution to these types of problems needs a peaceful but forceful solution.


5 posted on 01/29/2006 7:29:14 AM PST by Ma3lst0rm (Learning to laugh at yourself means you will never be lacking entertainment.)
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To: Ma3lst0rm

City Hall needs new staff, I be thinkin...


6 posted on 01/29/2006 7:33:38 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: MineralMan
unchallengeable right to redevelop
?!?!?!?!?
and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

You are correct.
Seems that the leaders of St. Petersburg are trying to emulate the Russian tsars. They forget WHICH St. Petersburg they live in and which form of government they lead with.

7 posted on 01/29/2006 7:38:17 AM PST by starfish923 (Socrates: It's never right to do wrong.)
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To: Ma3lst0rm
"The solution to these types of problems needs a peaceful but forceful solution."

Do you foresee there being any tar and feathers in this recipe?

8 posted on 01/29/2006 7:38:21 AM PST by davisfh
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To: MrEdd
Citizens are the enemy of government. And it's going to get worse.
9 posted on 01/29/2006 7:38:41 AM PST by Glenn (What I've dared, I've willed; and what I've willed, I'll do!)
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To: Ma3lst0rm

Things are only "peaceful" when the government is the only one with the guns.


10 posted on 01/29/2006 7:44:32 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: MrEdd

On a serious note, this is what the recall process is designed for. It's time for folks to let their local, recallable, officials understand that such "takings" are not going to be tolerated. A few recalls of entire city councils or county boards will soon put an end to such crap.

We the people have the power. It's just a matter of using it.


11 posted on 01/29/2006 7:44:48 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: MrEdd
The Consitituion, in the First Amendment, enumerates very specifically these citizens' absolute RIGHT to petition their government.

No law...and therefore no law suit...can be brought or filed against them for simply exercising that right. If there is not more to this, then what these city officials are doing is blatantly unconstitional and tyranical.

12 posted on 01/29/2006 7:48:49 AM PST by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Ma3lst0rm

The ADF is LAWYERS what did you think I was talking about???


13 posted on 01/29/2006 7:54:28 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat

Lawyers are not what I was talking about. A few thousand gun owners showing up armed at the county courthouse is more to my liking. The rats need to be reminded where they stand. There are more of us than them.


14 posted on 01/29/2006 8:12:32 AM PST by Ma3lst0rm (Learning to laugh at yourself means you will never be lacking entertainment.)
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To: demkicker

they as well need to counter sue.


15 posted on 01/29/2006 8:14:47 AM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: Ma3lst0rm

If doose Mouth-Pieces can win against dat udder bunch of legal shills ya know dey ar good and must be frightening.


16 posted on 01/29/2006 8:15:30 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Ma3lst0rm

Unfortunately, there are a heck of a lot more government agents who are willing to use guns on citizens, than there are citizens who are willing to use guns on government agents. We have a tremendous numerical advantage in one sense, but not in another.


17 posted on 01/29/2006 8:18:23 AM PST by coloradan (Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
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To: SandRat

Yeah. What gets me is that it seems to be an exercise in futility. It’s like dealing with the devil and expecting him not to lie. The bureaucrats that are trying to do these things are thinking about one thing their power base. They need a little old fashioned pressure. They and the businesses involved should be treated like child molesters. They should be spit on in public. The one thing that we can be certain of is that our founders would've did much worse.

This issue is going to explode of the next decade. The difference will be between those who believe in property rights and those who believe the government can do what it wants provided they have an "economic plan". I personally believe we need a constitution ammendment to further limit
imminent domain. I believe that the onus of responsibility should always fall on the powerful whether it be the government or corporate to place the rights of the individual above their collective need for growth and power.

My big question when these government folks present one of these "goddamn brillent" economic development plans is why they didn't plan it so it accommodated the private property owners or avoided them altogether? Also there is the great option of including them and offerring them real market prices based upon the projected value of the property once the development is complete. What they do is they spend several thousand dollars on the plan before they even consult with the home owners then they offer ultimatums and threats and pitiful offers for their homes. This usually effects the poor that have little money to fight so they take what they can get while the government officals and the corporations rake in the cash and power. Its no different in some cases than what happens in ethnic cleansing senarios.
How wonderfully Christian to kick people out of their houses and cheat them out of benefiting fully from the value of their now indemand property. It is bad regardless but to do it to people who have few options is more than a crime it is evil.


18 posted on 01/29/2006 8:50:12 AM PST by Ma3lst0rm (Learning to laugh at yourself means you will never be lacking entertainment.)
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To: coloradan

I'm not suggesting a battle. What I'm suggesting is a show of force in protection of our freedom. Let them shoot private citizens in a peaceful public rally and this issue will be decided. These control freaks need to be taught a lesson they should've learned long ago. People need to feel in their hearts the freedom that is theirs and being stripped away. The powerful are pushing society towards absolute dependence and we need to take ownership in our hearts before our country falls from within rather than without. They do not know what is better for us than we and even in the rare occasion when they do, it doesn't not give them the right to take away our freedom to exercise our rights the way we see fit.

The place where I was raised it would be ruby ridge before someone would take our land. People need to exercise their personal sovereignty and feel it in their heart like a furnace fueled by a thousand suns. Today too many hearts are like a swamps in fools ready only to fight for "rights" to smoke pot and purchase porn. So sad. Where are the leaders?


19 posted on 01/29/2006 9:02:08 AM PST by Ma3lst0rm (Learning to laugh at yourself means you will never be lacking entertainment.)
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To: MrEdd

Reading the article, it sounds more like the city is trying to get a court to rule that, despite the petition, the city council's decision is not subject to being overturned by ballot vote -- as distinct from suing the petitioners for monetary damages for the offense of doing a petition


20 posted on 01/29/2006 9:13:54 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the hubris to think they will be the planners)
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