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Mark Steyn: Are we serious? -
National Review ^ | February 13, 2005 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 01/28/2006 11:52:44 AM PST by UnklGene

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1 posted on 01/28/2006 11:52:45 AM PST by UnklGene
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To: Pokey78

*ping*


2 posted on 01/28/2006 11:53:28 AM PST by UnklGene
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To: UnklGene

Stop Jihad Now!


3 posted on 01/28/2006 11:56:47 AM PST by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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To: UnklGene
Thus, the net effect in both jurisdictions is to limit or defer public awareness of these men’s activities.

True.

4 posted on 01/28/2006 11:58:20 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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ping


5 posted on 01/28/2006 12:00:34 PM PST by thehumanlynx (“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.” -Edmund Burke)
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The great thing about Steyn is that his writing often covers the bases that need covering for the moment.

Others may write great stuff, but I find myself wanting to add extra comments.


6 posted on 01/28/2006 12:02:39 PM PST by GermanBusiness
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To: UnklGene
At one o’clock that afternoon, as the Pentagon still burned and after he’d helped pull the injured from the rubble, Donald Rumsfeld told the president, “This is not a criminal action. This is war.”

It don't get any better than this.

7 posted on 01/28/2006 12:05:08 PM PST by Windsong (Jesus Saves, but Buddha makes incremental backups)
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To: UnklGene
If the Koran permit, you must acquit.

Child rape and "Leb style" activities included but don't insult Islam with a cartoon or we will stone or behead you.

8 posted on 01/28/2006 12:06:38 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: UnklGene

Yep, that pretty much explains it. They think we're fools because most ARE fools. We hand them a weapon and then act surprised when they use it against us.


9 posted on 01/28/2006 12:08:04 PM PST by McGavin999 (If Intelligence Agencies can't find leakers, how can we expect them to find terrorists?)
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To: UnklGene

"Why aren’t the dead of September 11 and July 7 already enough? "
Wow!!
When I debate my liberal friends about whay we are in Iraq, I ask them for what they will sacrifice blood and treasure. I'm adding this phrase.


10 posted on 01/28/2006 12:10:34 PM PST by griswold3 (Ken Blackwell, Ohio Governor in 2006- No!! You cannot have my governor in 2008.)
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To: UnklGene
The question is not “Why do they hate us?” but “Why do they despise us?” And putting Abu Hamza in the dock at the Old Bailey is a good example why.

11 posted on 01/28/2006 12:11:30 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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Abu Hamza is innocent.

He had no hand in any of this.

(Private Eye)

warm regards,
12 posted on 01/28/2006 12:15:20 PM PST by vimto (Life isn't a dry run)
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“This is not a criminal action. This is war.”

This can't be stressed enough. War is not a legal exercise. Your enemy is not your enemy for some legal infraction, in fact what he does is likely perfectly legal by his code of conduct, and if his legal advisors are sufficiently sharp, it may even emulate legality under your code.

He is not at war with you because of some legal infraction, he is at war with you because he wants to destroy or subjugate you, and he is prepared to use any means to do it.

War is the state of affairs that exists when law is insufficient to resolve a conflict, war is what exists when your opponent is outside the jurisdiction of your laws, or does not recognize your laws, or is prepared to use your laws to destroy and enslave you.

In the moment you recognize your mortal danger, you must act, you must be prepared to do whatever it takes, and "whatever it takes" means just that, whatever it takes. You aren't going to limit yourself to serving subpoenas on your enemies, you are going to round them up, you are going to deport them, imprison them for as long as seems prudent, you are going to target them and kill them and anyone standing near them, you are going to identify and destroy their supporters, and you are going to do it with as much grace or brute force as you deem necessary.

These guys should not be on trial. They should be in a holding camp, being sweated for information so you can find their pals and get them too.

13 posted on 01/28/2006 12:20:11 PM PST by marron
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The question is not "Why do they hate us?" but "Why do they despise us?"

Actually, that isn't the question at all. The question is why do they think they can attack us at all. It is not their viciousness but our mistaken tolerance. For example: If in 1979 when the embassy in Iran was taken we went in like Dessert Storm in Iran, there would be no middle east issue now. Iraq wouldn't think about Kuwait, Russia might not have dared go into Afghanistan, and militant islam might not be what it is today. Animals attack from behind. Facing the threat, then kicking the crap out of it so the threat never dares again, is the best course for peace.
Well, that's just my take on it.
14 posted on 01/28/2006 12:22:55 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: vimto
Abu Hamza is innocent.

He had no hand in any of this.

True, but he did turn a blind eye toward it.

15 posted on 01/28/2006 12:24:49 PM PST by xJones
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To: vimto

Abu isn't also going to finger anyone else or knuckle under pressure brought by such limp-wristed prosecution. (It's a rainy Saturday so forgive me please)


16 posted on 01/28/2006 12:24:54 PM PST by masadaman
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And, once you've goten all the information they have, have them dig a deep hole.


17 posted on 01/28/2006 12:25:02 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: MadIvan

ping


18 posted on 01/28/2006 12:28:41 PM PST by marron
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To: masadaman

Est steinus impretoruium hamasismasur fingerlesitiumes gregorian whogivesastfuuffs in partre tossorius.

Consider yourself forgiven.

kind regards,


19 posted on 01/28/2006 12:29:23 PM PST by vimto (Life isn't a dry run)
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To: masadaman

Oh, and three Hail Mary's.


20 posted on 01/28/2006 12:30:29 PM PST by vimto (Life isn't a dry run)
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