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Corzine advisers calling for taxes
Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | 1/27/06 | Kaitlin Gurney

Posted on 01/27/2006 7:27:42 AM PST by randita

Posted on Fri, Jan. 27, 2006

Corzine advisers calling for taxes

Their transition report has outlined unpopular budget solutions. N.J. lawmakers joined in a chorus of boos.

By Kaitlin Gurney Inquirer Trenton Bureau

TRENTON - Expand the sales tax to include clothes and online purchases. Tax 401(k) retirement accounts. Raise the gas tax. Consider a temporary increase in the state income tax.

With New Jersey's finances "perilously close to ruin," Gov. Corzine's budget advisers have recommended these unpopular solutions and more to fill what they estimate to be a $6 billion hole in the state's budget.

The grim transition report advises the Wall Street financier-turned-governor to immediately prepare plans to lay off state workers and cut government services. It also suggests that Corzine develop ways to control skyrocketing costs for pensions and schools - including raising the state's retirement age and revisiting funding for needy Abbott school districts.

"In two short decades, under both Democratic and Republican administrations, the state has gone from a financial powerhouse to a financial basket case," states the report, obtained first by the Press of Atlantic City. "While the road to decline was often paved with good intentions, the results are alarming."

Indeed, according to the six-page paper, the state faces a cumulative debt load of nearly $30 billion because past governors borrowed money to mask financial problems.

Corzine must contribute $1.2 billion to state pension funds this year just to keep them solvent, and state funds for roads, schools and open space are nearly bankrupt.

"Clearly, sacrifices will have to be made. Pain will have to be shared. There must be the political will to make substantive, structural budget changes," the report warns.

While lawmakers are fond of blaming the opposing party for the condition of the state's $28 billion budget, they universally condemned the solutions the Corzine advisers outlined.

Senate President Richard J. Codey, who as governor cut property-tax rebates but rejected suggestions to expand the sales tax and tax 401(k) accounts, said the recommendations were politically impossible.

"Now, if we do all that, who would that leave that wouldn't be pissed off at us?" the Essex County Democrat asked.

Republicans were no kinder. State Sen. Diane Allen (R., Burlington) said she hoped Corzine would "take parts of the report and throw them away," while Senate Minority Leader Leonard Lance (R., Hunterdon) said spending must be cut before tax-increase proposals would be entertained.

"New Jersey is at a tipping point," Lance said, noting that residents are already burdened with heavy property, business and income taxes. "Our residents are moving to Pennsylvania and beyond, and new taxes would exacerbate an already difficult situation."

Administration officials confirmed that their advisers had written the report, but cautioned it was a draft and that final transition reports would be released later. After winning election, Corzine consulted with a team of fiscal experts including former state treasurers and Rutgers University professors.

Corzine is expected to outline his state budget to the Legislature in March. He has selected a former associate from Goldman Sachs, Bradley Abelow, to serve as state treasurer. Abelow started work Monday.

The otherwise dour paper ends with a personal message, telling the multimillionaire Corzine that he is "a uniquely qualified governor serving at a unique time. You possess a deep knowledge of financial markets and the business community, and have expressed independence and the political will to do what's necessary and right."

Even if Corzine rejects his advisers' advice, it is important for the tax-increase and spending-cut proposals to be aired publicly, fiscal watchdogs said.

"Absent money trees sprouting on the Statehouse lawn, we have to come up with additional revenues to plug a budget deficit amounting to some $6 billion, and we need to talk about our options," said Bill Dressel, executive director of the New Jersey State League of Municipalities.

Jon Shure, president of New Jersey Policy Perspective, a liberal think tank in Trenton, said New Jersey's fiscal situation had so deteriorated that "nothing is too outrageous to consider."

"The public can handle this debate," he said. "Having all of this out there is a good thing. For one thing, maybe in comparison, the options he picks won't sound so bad."

Contact staff writer Kaitlin Gurney at 609-989-7373 or kgurney@phillynews.com.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: corzine; highertaxes; hightaxes; moretaxes; nj; tax; taxes
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To: randita
Yep. See - liberals in Blue States love spending. They just hate taxing themselves for it. Hence the conundrum.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

21 posted on 01/27/2006 8:14:38 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: harpu

I don't have the info handy, but a low percentage of people actually turned out to vote. That's not to say the election would have had a different outcome, but many residents of this state are about to find out how costly that decision not to participate will cost.


22 posted on 01/27/2006 8:14:41 AM PST by tropical
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To: Night Hides Not

We made a promise to our son and ourselves not to move, transfer, or otherwise disrupt his high school education.

Pete's Wife's husband, because of transfers, attended four high schools. It was miserable.

Pete's Wife's husband visited Granbury, TX just after Christmas. He was very impressed with the friendliness of the citizenry, and blown away by the price of housing.

It's a possibility...

But we're stuck in this mess 'til '09.


23 posted on 01/27/2006 8:16:16 AM PST by Pete'sWife (Dirt is for racing... asphalt is for getting there.)
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To: randita

This is great. Just what we need here in Eastern Pennsylvania, more Nazi Jerseyians.


24 posted on 01/27/2006 8:16:40 AM PST by stevio (Red-Blooded American Male (NRA))
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To: randita

Guess Gov. John has a few more women to keep and would just as soon not use his own dimes.


25 posted on 01/27/2006 8:33:18 AM PST by rod1
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To: RexBeach

Bill Clinton proposed a ONE TIME tax of 15% on all retirement accounts, remember that one??
If you had 100,000 in an account, you were supposed to send the feds 15,000. The Dems love taxing the "rich".


26 posted on 01/27/2006 8:38:16 AM PST by griswold3 (Ken Blackwell, Ohio Governor in 2006- No!! You cannot have my governor in 2008.)
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To: randita
Corzine should impanel a bipartisan committee of state legislators to address this issue. The decisions about rectifying the mess he inherited will then be essentially thiers. I hate Corzine, but he didn't create this problem. The idiots in Trenton did.


What New Jersey needs to do is reduce the starting salary for teachers from $30,000 per year for somebody right out of college with no experience.

Increase the length of the school year and require teachers to work an eleven month work year.

Stop immediately the practice of permitting elected politicians to get appointed to official positions on various committees at exorbitant salaries for short periods of time which allows them to collect retirement benefits that no government employee in the State who worked their entire life could ever receive - this is bankrupting the system.

They should also revise the salary bases of law-enforcement personnel in that state and totally eliminate the practice of allowing cops to retire after twenty years of work on full benefits.

They should stop debilitating - permitting government employees to jump from one pension system to another after accruing enough time in one system to eventually collect retirement benefits from two or even three separate pension systems.

They should restructure government in the state to reduce the number of political divisions. There are over 500 municipal governments in New Jersey. Each governmental unit has its own police force, its own road department, its own garbage collection, etc, etc. In addition there are twenty one counties which also frequently have road departments, law-enforcment personnel, etc. Plus this they have the entire state structure which also preforms these functions. Each of these entities requires its own administrative staff. This leads to unnecessary overhead and duplication of services all of which raise taxes and the cost of government.

Also, there are are more school districts than there are municipalities. Frequently one town will have several different school districts, each with its own superintendent and support staff. That's ridiculous.
Each County should have only one school district with a County Superintendent to oversee all the schools in that county. In the long run, it will reduce government costs.

The people of that state pay more in taxes than anyone ever should.

Their teachers are THE HIGHEST PAID in the nation, but their students rank in the MIDDLE of the country in performance on tests.

But then they have no one to blame but themselves for voting in Corzine, although the alternative was little better.
27 posted on 01/27/2006 8:42:08 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: griswold3

Yes, now that you mention it, I do.

God, what a dreadful idea.

What's that number from the Taxpayer Foundation or is it the Fed, that the top 20% of taxpayers ante up 80% of all taxes; while the bottom half pay about 4%. Are you familiar with those numbers?

Good Lord, who needs tax relief more? The folks paying 80 cents of every tax dollar collected, or the folks who pay practically no taxes at all? Simple answer.


28 posted on 01/27/2006 8:42:35 AM PST by RexBeach ("There is no substitute for victory." -Douglas MacArthur)
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To: Pete'sWife
I live about 40 miles east of Granbury...nice area. I understand your feelings about not wanting to transfer.

If your son is in a good school, then by all means, stick to your plan.

My daughter just found out that HS did not prepare her well for college. She was in a good school, had a GPA of 3.8, but fell to a 2.5 for her first semester of college.

When she tried to put a "happy face" on it, saying her friends were even lower, I pulled out my copy of Animal House and showed her the scene where Dean Wormer is kicking the Deltas out of school:

"Mr. Kroger, you're at the top of your Delta Pledge Class with a 1.0 GPA."

She wasn't smiling...nor I. The law has been laid down: 3.5 or better this semester, or it's community college next year...no car...no sorority...zip...zero...nada...

I was fortunate, because college was paid for by the Army (ROTC). I had to earn it, though. I ended up with a Bachelors' in Public Accounting, over 140 semester hours, and averaged 15 hours a week in ROTC commitments. I learned fast that Gonzaga was a demanding school. There was plenty of time for partying, but most everybody worked hard before they played hard.

Her mother had it even tougher: worked fulltime and paid for her own college. She had to, because she was one of 10 kids.

Accordingly, every excuse or happy face will be knocked out of the park like a Chan Ho Park fastball at The Ballpark in Arlington.

29 posted on 01/27/2006 8:46:15 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Closing in on 3000 posts, of which maybe 50 were worthwhile!)
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To: Night Hides Not

My brother has already moved to TX and I might not be far behind him.


30 posted on 01/27/2006 8:56:58 AM PST by jjm2111
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To: harpu

It must be nice to be all all knowing.....


31 posted on 01/27/2006 9:05:04 AM PST by fml
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To: Night Hides Not

Thanks!

College was a struggle for both of us. Our son is in a good (by govt. school standards) one, and is doing very well.

If I have my way, he'll go to Hillsdale College. We'll see...

Oh. One VERY important question: Is there a dirt track for stock car racing in your area?

If not, I'll just stop when I get to Harrisburg, PA and live there!

Thanks again!

Pete's Wife's husband


32 posted on 01/27/2006 9:26:38 AM PST by Pete'sWife (Dirt is for racing... asphalt is for getting there.)
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To: randita

To all those ash holes in New Jersey who voted for corzine and helped put an extortionist in the senate: In the word of Nelson Mundt, "Ha Ha!".


33 posted on 01/27/2006 9:39:19 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (We will never murtha to the terrorists. Bring home the troops means bring home the war.)
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To: Night Hides Not
The law has been laid down: 3.5 or better this semester, or it's community college next year...no car...no sorority...zip...zero...nada...

While I applaud your decisiveness; I'd urge you to reconsider your decision. If she fails to live up to the letter, you'll be obliged to throw her to wolves.Literally

The bottom of the worst wind up in the community college system in NJ. Otherwise good kids can go bad under the prevailing ethos dominated by shiftless, apathetic discards of broken homes, apathetic faculty and alienated part-timers. I used to teach in some of those places. They function well for mature, motivated adults, but are no good for kids.

Consider a religious school and regard the financial strain as sound investment and a more compelling threat--from her perspective.She is worth it.

34 posted on 01/27/2006 9:54:12 AM PST by tsomer
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To: tsomer
Thanks for your thoughts. There's a couple of good local CC's near where we live. I should probably throw UT-Dallas and UT-Arlington into the mix. That way she could live at home while attending school.

She's currently in a dorm (at UNT (Denton))...having to return home is probably the biggest "arrow in the quiver." Especially since she wants to reside in the sorority house next year.

I'd love to send her to U of Dallas (Jesuit), but the cost is prohibitive, even with financial aid (net $20,000/year).

She's a great kid, and I'm proud of her and what she's accomplished so far. And I think she'll learn from her mistakes. When she puts her mind and heart into something, she excels at any task she's given.

35 posted on 01/27/2006 10:35:16 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Closing in on 3000 posts, of which maybe 50 were worthwhile!)
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To: Night Hides Not

I stand corrected.

I didn't realize you were in Texas. They do things a little different than here.

Sounds like she's got a hard-ass dad, so she'll do allright.

All my best,

Tom


36 posted on 01/27/2006 11:01:50 AM PST by tsomer
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To: randita

"While the road to decline was often paved with good intentions, the results are alarming."

Good intentions = Liberalism. It's too bad results don't depend on good intentions.

On the other note, Corzine consulted with former state treasurers and Rutgers professors. Why would you want to consult with the people who got you in the mess, and a bunch of liberal professors full of "good intentions"?


37 posted on 01/27/2006 11:30:44 AM PST by winner3000
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To: randita
How did someone who looks like a tax-crazed child molester get elected?

Oh. It's New Jersey. The "Whadda you lookin' at?" state.

38 posted on 01/27/2006 11:34:39 AM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government "job" attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: randita

Wow. Didn't see this one coming.


39 posted on 01/27/2006 11:36:51 AM PST by small voice in the wilderness (The Culture of Corruption hurts. But it's the dems. Corruption of Culture that destroys.)
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To: Pete'sWife
Son graduates from high school in '09. Pete's Wife, Husband, pets, cars, furniture, and all other posessions are outahere the next day. GUARANTEED

Three-and-a-half more years????? For high school?

Other states have high schools, you know. For what you're gonna cough up the next 3.5 years, you could buy your own high school.

Or buy the kid an RV to live in near campus and move.

40 posted on 01/27/2006 11:44:30 AM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government "job" attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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