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2,400-foot tunnel 'beats them all'
San Diego Union-Tribune ^ | 01/27/2006 | Onell R. Soto and Leslie Berestein

Posted on 01/27/2006 7:24:10 AM PST by RS

"U.S. agents had been investigating the possibility of an elaborate drug-smuggling tunnel between Tijuana and San Diego for more than a year, but couldn't find it despite using military equipment so advanced it's classified"

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"“This tunnel beats them all,” said Michael Unzueta, special agent in charge of the San Diego office of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, "

~snip

"“People are always going to find a way around us,” he said."

(Excerpt) Read more at signonsandiego.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordercontrol; borderfence; bordersecurity; ca; california; dea; drugtrafficking; drugwar; duh; dumbusa; illegalaliens; illegals; immigrantlist; invasionusa; lawenforcement; leo; mexico; mexifornia; narcodemocracy; newworldorder; nm; omygodtheyfoundtom; openborders; otay; sandiego; smuggling; tijuana; tj; tunnel; warondrugs; wodlist
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To: moehoward

"This "billion-dollar boondoggle" will pay dividends in perpetuity. It's a fraction of what Illegals cost California alone for one year."

Nope, the "billion-dollar boondoggle" will cost billions more in perpetuity.
Enforcement of existing laws against hiring and deportation of ALL illegals will cost less and diminish the problem over time.


81 posted on 01/27/2006 11:04:32 AM PST by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: Travis McGee

Most excellet reasoning as to why that's a drug smuggling tunnel. Illegal aliens would end up gossiping and blowing the whole scheme. Thus no (very few) illegal aliens got to slide through.


82 posted on 01/27/2006 11:12:34 AM PST by dennisw ("What one man can do another can do" - The Edge)
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To: patj

According to the article I posted yesterday -

"Based on tips, U.S. officials began investigating the possibility of a tunnel in the area in 2004."

... so it appears that it was in operation for some time.


83 posted on 01/27/2006 11:14:02 AM PST by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: RS

and this tunnel is what has been found....what else is out there...?


84 posted on 01/27/2006 11:33:05 AM PST by thinking
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To: RS; Richard-SIA
.... in any case do you think terrorists could scrape up more then 5 grand to sneak into the country ?

okay, RS, there you go with your lies again. I refer you to my previous post where I pointed out a well-known example of exactly that happening in Texas. Are you still shoveling your shinola to people, even though you've been called on it?

It's time for you to stop pushing lies, my FRiend.

85 posted on 01/27/2006 11:39:25 AM PST by HiJinx (~ Secure the Border ~ Fine the Employer ~ Deport the Illegal ~)
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To: HiJinx; RS

Oh, and by the way, I only posted that to you and the person you responded to.

Do it again, and I'll point out your dishonesty to the entire list.


86 posted on 01/27/2006 11:41:42 AM PST by HiJinx (~ Secure the Border ~ Fine the Employer ~ Deport the Illegal ~)
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To: thinking

"and this tunnel is what has been found....what else is out there...?"

so true - and the bad guys are busy thinking up new stuff - UAVs are not out of the question by the time we get this multi-billion dollar, tunnel sensing, The Fence in place.

BTW - There was a mini-sub being towed from Mexico up here that was "lost" a few weeks back - with luck it's at the bottom, but who's to say the druggies don't have it ? They were caught attempting to build one some years ago.


87 posted on 01/27/2006 11:42:36 AM PST by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: Travis McGee
Where this fence is completed, illegal alien traffic drops to zero across the frontier, and drug cartels are forced to dig long and elaborate tunnels in order to git under the border.

Plus, if the illegals are forced to use tunnels we can surely find a way to cave the tunnels in at both ends and then flood them. Tunnels would fall out of favor real fast.

88 posted on 01/27/2006 11:48:23 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: HiJinx

"Do it again, and I'll point out your dishonesty to the entire list."

LOL - "do it again " .... Sorry, but I haven't got time to read or respond to each and every post ... or perhaps what you said was simply not important enough to rate a response.

Feel free to post whatever you wish to the entire FR community.


89 posted on 01/27/2006 11:49:08 AM PST by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: RS

I'm getting a real laugh from your inane posts. Keep up the good work.


90 posted on 01/27/2006 12:02:29 PM PST by dennisw ("What one man can do another can do" - The Edge)
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To: RS
"Nope, the "billion-dollar boondoggle" will cost billions more in perpetuity. "

Negative. Look around, see all those fences used to protect and separate property. Have you any idea why a fence is performing that function instead of several human beings.

*clue*....it's cheaper....

91 posted on 01/27/2006 12:44:05 PM PST by moehoward
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To: RS

Agreed. Big fences will just lead to big ladders.

Stop alien employment.


92 posted on 01/27/2006 12:50:00 PM PST by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: HiJinx; RS
" It's time for you to stop pushing lies, my FRiend. "

They just keep whacking away.

Reminds me of an old Wings episode. The hapless maintenance guy is attempting to repair a light fixture. He raises his screwdriver to the device and is promptly shocked. Squeals in pain, shakes it off, raises his screwdriver again, and history is repeated, again and again. All the while, bewildered onlookers stare in amusement until, one by one, they shrug and walk away.

93 posted on 01/27/2006 12:56:24 PM PST by moehoward
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To: Travis McGee
Interesting AOPA (Aircraft Owners & Pilots Assoc.) notice:

FAA ESTABLISHES 300-NM TFR ON SOUTHERN U.S. BORDER

The FAA has established a "temporary" flight restriction (TFR) along the U.S.-Mexico border in Arizona and New Mexico. The TFR is in effect from 12,000 to 14,000 feet and is active from 5 p.m. until 7 a.m. daily. What makes it so ominous is its size and duration. The 300-nm-long corridor, 17-nm wide in most places, is to prevent U.S. Customs and Border Patrol unmanned surveillance aircraft (UAVs) from colliding with other civilian aircraft. But this TFR hardly seems "temporary." It's scheduled to be in effect until December 31 and will likely be renewed next year. "Even though the TFR is limited to 12,000 to 14,000 feet and evening and night hours, AOPA believes that the use of 'temporary' large-scale flight restrictions for yearlong UAV operations is not appropriate," said Andy Cebula, AOPA executive vice president of government affairs. "We are appealing to the FAA and security officials for less restrictive alternatives for these types of operations." AOPA staff met with FAA and security officials last Friday to find alternatives to the current use of large TFRs to protect UAV flights. See AOPA Online.

94 posted on 01/27/2006 1:07:44 PM PST by CodeToad
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To: dennisw

"I'm getting a real laugh from your inane posts. Keep up the good work."

Glad I've kept you amused, but do you have anything to add ?


95 posted on 01/27/2006 1:16:20 PM PST by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: RS
"THIS is why people pushing for the billion dollar boondoggle of The Fence are going in the wrong direction."

Whatever! The illegals are bankrupting our schools and hospitals here in California. A fence would be a great way to slow it down.

I can't picture millions of illegals coming here through a tunnel... It would be obvious where they were coming from. I'm picturing an endless line of Mexicans crawling out of a tunnel in the middle of the desert. NO WAY!
96 posted on 01/27/2006 1:17:04 PM PST by JeffersonRepublic.com (There is no truth in the news, and no news in the truth.)
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To: moehoward

"Have you any idea why a fence is performing that function instead of several human beings."

So your point is that we should not bother to enforce the laws against those who break them, the Americans that cause the problem by hiring the illegals - since that would take people to enforce, courts to convict and prisons to hold them ?


97 posted on 01/27/2006 1:22:13 PM PST by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: Darksheare

Tunnel ping


98 posted on 01/27/2006 1:26:07 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: JeffersonRepublic.com

"The illegals are bankrupting our schools and hospitals here in California. A fence would be a great way to slow it down."

The illegals are bankrupting us because our idiot elected officials let them - Get rid of the bleeding hearts in the government and toss out EVERY illegal, and you can forget those costs.


99 posted on 01/27/2006 1:28:43 PM PST by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: RS

No, that's your assumption. The fence AND guard personnel is the answer at the border. The fence is just an effective tool.

The key is to keep as many as possible from getting across to begin with. Once here, it is many times more complicated and costly to remove them.


100 posted on 01/27/2006 1:35:45 PM PST by moehoward
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