U.S. backs off envoy's threat to India

MSNBC ^ | 1/25/06 | AP

[minus_273]

it is a reply to Saberwielder who is questioning my loyalty/racial purity.

[Saberwielder]

"India is NOT an ally in the GWOT "

That says all I ever wanted to know about you. Now, why would anyone care what a non-American troll who hides his nationality thinks? I suggest you flame against India in a forum that belongs to people of your nation.

So please con tinue this tripe with your friends who you said believe that FR is a "hate site." Good bye and don't bother responding to this post.

[Saberwielder]

Liar. Where did I talk of race? You admitted you are not an American and don't intend to be one. I called you on that! Troll!

[coconutt2000]

Didn't the ancestors of the modern native Americans wipe out the locals who were already here?

[minus_273]

you really are desperate. Unless you come here on a diversity visa (green card lottery), get amnesty or hop over a fence, you will be in the US on a visa. Could it be possible i have lived here all my life on a visa and am about to change to a permanent resident so I join the military and get my citizenship? of course not.

If you think there is something wrong with following immigration laws, please let me know. Your ad-homeneim attacks are getting pathetic.

It takes a special kind of low life to attack all immigrants regardless of whether they follow the laws or not. Where did your family come from? I wonder, were they ever on a visa or did they jump a fence somewhere? how did they get here? why dont you tell us a little about yourself you little troll. I wonder how loyal you and your family are.

[minus_273]

"You admitted you are not an American and don't intend to be one."

yeah really? can you show me where i have said that? I think my profile clearly shows it is exactly the opposite. as for race, weren't you the one that kept pressing me to say i am not a muslim or pakistani as if that has something to do with the article? that sounds a lot like aracial litmus test to me.

For anyone else reading this thread look at the posts by this guy insisting my national origin (which isn't even remotely realted to this topic) was relevant to the conversation.

[Saberwielder]

I'm afraid I don't have any divided loyalties nor do I pledge allegiance to other nations' flags. My ancestors were here when the first shot was fired on Bunker hill and we haven't saluted flags other than the Stars and Stripes since then. BTW, it is spelt a-d-h-o-m-i-n-e-m. Please consider this our last communication, Mr. "I'm here on a visa and I pretend to be an American"

[minus_273]

sure sounds like you pledge allegiance to the flag of india from the look of this thread. At least i am honest in my profile unlike you who doesnt even have one (who's the troll)

BTW when you need to point out spelling mistakes in my post, that means you lost.

why dont you fess up and tell us where YOU are really from are you claiming you have no immigrant blood? are you really that racially pure? my gracious we have here a pure aryan anglo-saxon on our hands.

Go back to DU you troll you national socialists should stick together.

[Saberwielder]

I don't need a foreigner who believes that FR is a "hate site" telling me what to do. Most Americans are descendants of immigrants but the operative word is A-m-e-r-i-c-a-n, as in what you aren't and what I am.

[minus_273]

So much for not reading replies. But in any case, you need to read english better.

"I don't need a foreigner who believes that FR is a "hate site" telling me what to do. "

Can you show me where i said FR is a hate site? I said i am careful about by anonymity because i know people who think FR is a hate site. In simpler terms, that means i live in boston (which if you aren't aware is full of pinkos) and have to be careful.

Most Americans are descendants of immigrants but the operative word is A-m-e-r-i-c-a-n, as in what you aren't and what I am.

Good for you. Care to prove it? I think you pledge allegiance to India (would explain the lack of a profile and your anger on this thread). Give me a few years. At least i will have earned it through years of hard work and military service. Unlike you.

Though, I must say you're a good troll. I initially thought I could reason with you. It is not surprising that you couldn't argue with me on the topic of this article (Possible Indian support for Iran) and instead chose to attack me. You even called me a troll. Thats the point where i figured you out. You see, only a troll fishing for bites would call someone like me, who has a profile up and actually has honest information about themselves there, a troll. As a person, you're pathetic. Oh yeah, and unlike you, I really wont reply or read your replies. Better luck next time.

[Ronaldus Magnus]

Just ignore the Internet goof balls who attack you personally because they aren't intellectually capable of coming up with a valid critique of your ideas. Nothing can discredit a nut job as effectively as their own unglued ad hominem attacks.

[Thunder90]

BRIC... New World Soviet Union.

[minus_273]

Yeah, i actually didn't initially realize this guy was a troll. its not that obvious when you read his/her initial replies.

[Saberwielder]

LOL.My real identity is known to Freepers that I trust and none of them believe that FR is a "hate site" unlike you. I know plenty of trolls who use the "I'm going to serve in the military" card to ingratiate themselves on conservative forums. If you had any real interest in the military, you'll know that you don't need a Green Card to join the US military. In fact, there are many good folks I know who joined the military and obtained their residency status. But I guess you won't be doing either.

You are a liar and you have lied time and again. You used "us" to curry favor on this board when you knew you weren't an American. This is a classic example of trolling.

Now go away, lying troll.

[sangrila]

Saberwielder wrote:
"Yes, India was against us for much if the 20th century but the cold war is over. France was allied to us all those years but it isn't today. Poland was our enemy then but is allied to us now. The Bush administration has made it a main feature of its foreign policy to reach out to like minded nations irrespective of the past. Forging an alliance with India is a key part of that new policy. Are you telling me that we should let the Cold War alliance dictate who our allies will be in the 21st century? Is the Bush policy wrong?"


I am not suggesting any of those things. I have long been hopeful of establishing a better relationship with India, but I am also a realist. I am stating what I think will happen, not what I hope will happen. And what has happened in the past is that India has continually sided with Russia and China and will most likely do so again. India has even improved their sometimes strained relationship with China, which makes it even more likely that they will not side with us. I believe Russia,China, India will stand with Iran while Pakistan and the former Soviet states stand with the West. Hopefully this will not happen, but it is where I see the situation going.

I also disagree about France not being our ally.I believe they will be with us on the Iran situation, and will take part in the military action that will most likely occur. They had their own reasons for not going into Iraq with us, but they have still been helpful in the WOT especially in Afghanistan and in tracking al-Qaeda cells in Europe and Africa. It would have been nice if they were more helpful with Iraq, but that is in the past now.

[voice of india]

India is a soverign and a democratic country which follows an independent foreign policy and it will take take a stand which suits the country and its intersts the best.As far as Iran is concerned it has been a strong ally of India and deserting an ally at the time of need is definitely not our type of behaviour.

[Clemenza]

I believe Russia,China, India will stand with Iran while Pakistan and the former Soviet states stand with the West. Hopefully this will not happen, but it is where I see the situation going.

"The West" is a relic of the cold war. Europe is increasingly irrelevant and grows farther apart from America culturally and politically every day.

I'm with TR, we are an AMERICAN civilization, not part of any "Atlantic community" with the Euro-peons.

[sangrila]

""The West" is a relic of the cold war. Europe is increasingly irrelevant and grows farther apart from America culturally and politically every day.

I'm with TR, we are an AMERICAN civilization, not part of any "Atlantic community" with the Euro-peons."


I think we will found out where these nations stand in the coming months and years. How they deal with the Iran situation will be very telling. I believe we have more in common with the Euros than we do with any other nations on the Earth, excluding Austraila and Canada. When it comes down to it, the US could really use Europe because Asia is not with us. Russia, China, and India will be major threats to US power in that region over the next century, and we know where the Arabs stand. We just need something to wake up Europe and this Iran thing may be it.

[minus_273]

are you actually defending india's possible support for the mullas getting nukes?

[Paul_Denton]

Yeah. Which is why we need to strengthen ties with Japan (already happening), Taiwan (could go either way depending on which way their political infighting goes), Australia and Poland. Israel was with us during the Cold War and will do so again.