Posted on 01/25/2006 5:17:39 AM PST by ShadowDancer
My husband is active duty. There are alot of homosexuals in the military serving, as we speak. There are even gay Marines. Why kick them out? They want to fight and die for their country, that's honorable right?
Typical Liberal Activist slant/over-embellishment:
Implying that Most (if not All) Military GLBT's serve in Extremely-critical and Difficult-to-Replace key positions....and No other types of personnel to fill such posts.
Typical Liberal Activist slant/over-embellishment:
Implying that Most (if not All) Military GLBT's serve in Extremely-critical and Difficult-to-Replace key positions....and No other types of personnel to fill such posts.
The economic argument is rather stupid. How much does it cost to train someone who becomes a drug addict? A traitor? A murderer? If it costs a lot, shouldn't we simply keep them in?
Being an avowed homosexual is against military orders. You can be a flaming, limp-wristed fag and know one cares. You just can't be one in the military. Is this discrimination? Sure it is. But the military discriminates every day. You can't be overweight, or substantially handicapped. You can't be deaf or blind. You can't have a chronic desease. You can't be too old. AND you can't be gay.
I have no idea about the American Military but we are overstretched in my reserve unit we have individuals who are acting almost has permanent soldiers to fill in the gaps.
Not very good for there civilian career.
I know my last tour had a negative effect on mine.
It creates serious problems with group moral when those type of things start happening.
IMHO, it is the same reason why woman should not be in group combat situations.
The truth is , they are in every post, rate and rank. But as long as you don't have sex on the job, fraternized or harrass anyone, why should you be kicked out? And please let me state, I think that homosexuality is wrong. But I don't think it has anything to do with whether you are able to do your job. My husband doesn't want anybody asking or telling around him.
So I guess they shouldn't "tell".
(I suspect that many among these numbers got free education and training at taxpayer's expense and then "told" to end their obligation.)
Because you can't have a Captain falling in love with some Sergeant in his company, or a Sergeant falling in love with a corporal in the platoon.
That's happening now with women being in the military. Are you going to kick them out because someone finds one attractive? That's just silly. If women really want true equality in the military, they should be willing to go where ever they're sent.
I believe your missing the point.
The "Don't ask, Don't tell" policy states that it "allows gays and lesbians to serve as long as they abstain from homosexual activity and do not disclose their sexual orientation."
I don't believe that they want "to fight and die for their country", but rather they want to join up, get a free education and then "get the boot" so they can make more money on the outside.
I also think the correct way to handle this situation is to say "OK, you want out because you claim your homosexual, well this is how much we spent on your education, your civilian pay will be garnished until we are paid back (with interest of course)."
Good Moring BS,
Homosexuality is incompatiable with the military service. What part of that do you not understand??????
Social engineering will not improve the military, only hinder it's operation and effectiveness.
8 years of blythe klintoon, almost destroyed our military.
Homosexuals just like the muslims, do not belong in our military, law enforcement or any position which is vital to our natioinal security.
Does you husband hold the same liberal view as you, concerning homos-gays serving in the military?
If so, I suggest he find another career field.
Liberal attitudes only destroy good and wholesome organizations, agencies and morale.
"Think of what is best for America(USA)not PC viability."
Cordially,
NSNR-Retired Army M.P.
I feel thus inclined to your thinking...even though I do believe that Homosexuality is a SIN against YAHWEH and Mankind in general.
Just a guess here -- but, when you start "telling" you make it an on the job issue. Keep it to yourself.
Maybe it is a man thing. Because if you are secure in your masculinity, why is it so threatening to be ogled by another dude? Its not going to cause you to turn (like some kind of vampire).
I agree. As long as there's no public outright inappropriate behavior, just like heterosexuals must adhere to, and if they're willing to serve and die, why let them go? Although I'm surprised by the low numbers...I think this article exaggerates the loss to the military, but just the same. Doing the math it comes out to only about 30 a year, so this article has a larger agenda.
When you place an openly gay man in this environment, it causes hostility. Many men don't want to associate with gays, let alone have one showering with them. The friction impacts the unit mission and causes a major distraction. The Commander and First Sergeant would have to set aside gay tents and gay shower time to keep the two groups from mixing. At that point your saying that gays in the field can associate and have sex, but heterosexuals can't. This further adds to the hostility.
The bottom line - Homosexual activities are not conducive to military life.
I also think the correct way to handle this situation is to say "OK, you want out because you claim your homosexual, well this is how much we spent on your education, your civilian pay will be garnished until we are paid back (with interest of course)."
Everyone enlisting knows the deal. There are no surprises when it comes to this policy.
Maybe I did miss the point. So I'll just say this. I think that people should be able to serve, regardless of their sexual orientation. My husband disagrees.
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