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Evolution study tightens human-chimp connection
EurekAlert (AAAS) ^ | 23 January 2006 | Staff

Posted on 01/23/2006 4:31:58 PM PST by PatrickHenry

Scientists at the Georgia Institute of Technology have found genetic evidence that seems to support a controversial hypothesis that humans and chimpanzees may be more closely related to each other than chimps are to the other two species of great apes – gorillas and orangutans. They also found that humans evolved at a slower rate than apes.

Appearing in the January 23, 2006 issue of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, biologist Soojin Yi reports that the rate of human and chimp molecular evolution – changes that occur over time at the genetic level – is much slower than that of gorillas and orangutans, with the evolution of humans being the slowest of all.

As species branch off along evolutionary lines, important genetic traits, like the rate of molecular evolution also begin to diverge. They found that the speed of this molecular clock in humans and chimps is so similar, it suggests that certain human-specific traits, like generation time, began to evolve one million years ago - very recently in terms of evolution. The amount of time between parents and offspring is longer in humans than apes. Since a long generation time is closely correlated with the evolution of a big brain, it also suggests that developmental changes specific to humans may also have evolved very recently.

In a large-scale genetic analysis of approximately 63 million base pairs of DNA, the scientists studied the rate at which the base pairs that define the differences between species were incorrectly paired due to errors in the genetic encoding process, an occurrence known as substitution.

"For the first time, we've shown that the difference in the rate of molecular evolution between humans and chimpanzees is very small, but significant, suggesting that the evolution of human-specific life history traits is very recent," said Yi.

Most biologists believe that humans and chimpanzees had a common ancestor before the evolutionary lines diverged about 5-7 million years ago. According to the analysis, one million years ago the molecular clock in the line that became modern humans began to slow down. Today, the human molecular clock is only 3 percent slower than the molecular clock of the chimp, while it has slowed down 11 percent from the gorilla's molecular clock.

This slow down in the molecular clock correlates with a longer generation time because substitutions need to be passed to the next generation in order to have any lasting effect on the species,

"A long generation time is an important trait that separates humans from their evolutionary relatives," said Navin Elango, graduate student in the School of Biology and first author of the research paper. "We used to think that apes shared one generation time, but that's not true. There's a lot more variation. In our study, we found that the chimpanzee's generation time is a lot closer to that of humans than it is to other apes."

The results also confirm that there is very little difference in the alignable regions of the human and chimp genomes. Taken together, the study's findings suggest that humans and chimps are more closely related to each other than the chimps are to the other great apes.

"I think we can say that this study provides further support for the hypothesis that humans and chimpanzees should be in one genus, rather than two different genus' because we not only share extremely similar genomes, we share similar generation time," said Yi.

Even though the 63 million base pairs they studied is a large sample, it's still a small part of the genome, Yi said. "If we look at the whole genome, maybe it's a different story, but there is evidence in the fossil record that this change in generation time occurred very recently, so the genetic evidence and the fossil data seem to fit together quite well so far."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: chimpanzee; chimps; crevolist; evolution; fossils; ignoranceisstrength; paleontology; youngearthcultist
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To: highball

If they weren't interesting, I would not be researching them. :)


441 posted on 01/24/2006 2:05:23 PM PST by TheBrotherhood
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To: BMCDA
What you fail to realize is that science is self-correcting.

Take for example, the picture on the cover of this 1938 issue of Life Magazine. This specimen was briefly listed as an early Pittsburgh Man. However, famed trader of the day George Halas realized that the specimen in question would be a much better fit as Chicago Man, and acquired him in 1939. Note the primitive head covering, as compared to what we now call Pittsburgh Man.

442 posted on 01/24/2006 2:06:36 PM PST by Condorman (Prefer infinitely the company of those seeking the truth to those who believe they have found it.)
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To: TheBrotherhood

I personally am interested in whatever evidence you can find in this research to support the "historical facts" about Darwin you have claimed.


443 posted on 01/24/2006 2:09:02 PM PST by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: b_sharp
The molecular evidence shows we diverged from Bonobos after we diverged from Pan troglodytes. This means we are more closely related to Bonobos.

Really??? I never heard of that. Do you have a cite?

444 posted on 01/24/2006 2:09:23 PM PST by jennyp (WHAT I'M READING NOW: your mind)
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To: StACase
Jennyp: Wait - are you admitting that we're evolutionarily related to the apes?

StACase: I'm not admitting, I'm claiming, but I'm not claiming like the liberals that we are related to a particular one. Hence my peaches & apples analogy.

How do you account for the data in post 56?

445 posted on 01/24/2006 2:20:03 PM PST by Virginia-American
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To: jennyp; b_sharp
Oops, I should've kept reading.
446 posted on 01/24/2006 2:22:51 PM PST by jennyp (WHAT I'M READING NOW: your mind)
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To: Condorman

RaceBannon will be along shortly to declare victory without actually looking at the link.


447 posted on 01/24/2006 2:23:15 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: highball; warpcorebreach; TheBrotherhood
All you need to do is admit that you were wrong, that Darwin did not say that in 377 that "Darwin wrote that blacks were very closely related to their ape ancestors, but there was a group that was even closer- the Irish."

That was warpcorebreach who told that lie, not TheBrotherhood. TheBrotherhood lied about Darwin recanting on his deathbead, and lied about Darwin's own family substantiating that false claim.
448 posted on 01/24/2006 2:25:08 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: PatrickHenry

There you go again.


449 posted on 01/24/2006 2:25:59 PM PST by conservative barking moonbat (1987 Light years from home)
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To: highball

He's been on the verge of going off to research his false claim for a few days now.


450 posted on 01/24/2006 2:26:18 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Dimensio
http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v18/i1/darwin_recant.asp

Lady Hope "did visit Charles between Wednesday, 28 September and Sunday, 2 October 1881, almost certainly when Francis and Henrietta were absent, but his wife, Emma, probably was present."

451 posted on 01/24/2006 2:29:09 PM PST by TheBrotherhood
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To: TheBrotherhood; Dimensio
Actually, it said,


"Moore concludes that Lady Hope probably did visit Charles between Wednesday, 28 September and Sunday, 2 October 1881, almost certainly when Francis and Henrietta were absent, but his wife, Emma, probably was present."

Why did you cut out the part of the sentence that makes her arrival probable but not certain? And why do you ignore the conclusions of the creationists website that says the story is bogus?
452 posted on 01/24/2006 2:41:04 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: TheBrotherhood
Inanimate, as used in the context of my post, was meant as in souless NOT as in lifeless.

ahem...

When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, `it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.'

`The question is,' said Alice, `whether you can make words mean so many different things.'

`The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, `which is to be master - - that's all.'

Alice was too much puzzled to say anything, so after a minute Humpty Dumpty began again. `They've a temper, some of them -- particularly verbs, they're the proudest -- adjectives you can do anything with, but not verbs -- however, I can manage the whole of them! Impenetrability! That's what I say!'

:-)

453 posted on 01/24/2006 2:42:59 PM PST by jennyp (WHAT I'M READING NOW: your mind)
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To: TheBrotherhood; Dimensio
Why didn't you post this from Answersingenesis? :

"It therefore appears that Darwin did not recant, and it is a pity that to this day the Lady Hope story occasionally appears in tracts published and given out by well-meaning people."

http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v18/i1/darwin_recant.asp
454 posted on 01/24/2006 2:44:54 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: CarolinaGuitarman; TheBrotherhood; Dimensio

And it concludes with:

It therefore appears that Darwin did not recant, and it is a pity that to this day the Lady Hope story occasionally appears in tracts published and given out by well-meaning people.


455 posted on 01/24/2006 2:46:54 PM PST by Condorman (Prefer infinitely the company of those seeking the truth to those who believe they have found it.)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

Damn you!


456 posted on 01/24/2006 2:47:44 PM PST by Condorman (Prefer infinitely the company of those seeking the truth to those who believe they have found it.)
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To: Condorman
"Damn you!"

Probably too late on that too. :)


457 posted on 01/24/2006 2:51:59 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: CarolinaGuitarman; TheBrotherhood
Why didn't you post this from Answersingenesis? :

And run the risk of being labeled the first honest creationist? Keep dreaming!

458 posted on 01/24/2006 2:59:48 PM PST by shuckmaster (An oak tree is an acorns way of making more acorns)
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To: TheBrotherhood

I'm now fully convinced you are not for real. You screwed around all day as if "researching" your bogus claim as if typing "Darwin deathbed" in Google was a difficult and time consuming task - even while you were online.

Then, you actually made the effort to take out words from you quote from AiG, THEN, you boldly posted it here like we all haven't seen that a million times... ok, i'll stop.

You're totally a fraud. You are a plant and a hack. No way you are real.


459 posted on 01/24/2006 3:43:20 PM PST by whattajoke
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To: TheBrotherhood
Funny how you deliberately ingored the article's conclusion:

"It therefore appears that Darwin did not recant, and it is a pity that to this day the Lady Hope story occasionally appears in tracts published and given out by well-meaning people."
460 posted on 01/24/2006 3:51:18 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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