American Jews: Why Are You Still Liberal?

CommonConservative ^ | anuary 16, 2006 | Tom Adkins

[piytar]

Maybe there is light at the end of the tunnel for most American Jews. Dumbocraps' and other moonbats' language sounds more and more like OBL's (and vice versa). Heck, OBL's last tape was largely a reiteration of the Dumbocraps' talking points. Read something written by Michael Moore and an English translation of something OBL is saying these days, and it's frankly hard to tell who wrote which one. That might just be enough to wake many Jews up to the fact that OBL and leftists are on basically the same side, and it's not a side that American Jews should support.

As for most of my fellow the Catholics, I've largely lost hope.

[stevio]

So is there any hope of them opening their eyes?

[The Worthless Miracle]

Ironic also, how most black voters go democratic, with the ACTUAL history of the democrats and the klan, slavery, the true records on civil rights, not to mention robert byrd, the plantation in the house... people are not educated!

[T. Buzzard Trueblood]

Catholics since the days of FDR have been Catholic

Huh?

[Alouette]

It took my mother 30 years to come to grips with the fact that I became an observant Jew.

She still can't accept that I am a Republican.

[Alouette]

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[familyop]

You made some good points.

A high percentage of people from Protestant families (too high) also vote for Democrats for the same reasons. My quote was only one example of many to make the point. And I wrote "most"--something the author of the stupid piece above didn't bother with. Why are so many columnists and posters here so obsessed with about 70% percent of an American group that only comprises about 2% of our population?

The Democrat Party is comprised of people from all kinds of religious backgrounds, and very few of them are Jewish (because few people in our country are Jewish).

Answer, IMO: authors like the idiot who wrote the piece above are trying to split the Orthodox/Republican Jewish voters off from our Republican Party and rile Christian Republicans up against Jewish people in general. Most such dishonest defamation pieces are written by the pantywaist, Buchanan Euro-brigade--a very small fringe element in our politics.

[Hot Tabasco]

It is so sad to see the movement of those who want to exterminate the Jews do so with the implicit consent of the American Jews.

The same thing can be said about the blacks in this country. The Democratic party has successfully been able to shift the blame of racisim and anti-semitism from themselves to the Republican party but only with the assistance of the socialist MSM.........

FWIW tho, when I attended a Bush appearance last fall at the Pontiac Silverdome, the "Jews for Bush" crowd were out there in full force the majority of whom were college kids and voting age highschoolers. Boy was that refreshing to see!!!

[God luvs America]

the title should also include "& Blacks"

[hoosierboy]

http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/dennisprager/2003/01/21/169065.html

http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/dennisprager/2003/01/28/169118.html

[Lancer_N3502A]

Democrats are by far closer to the ideals of the National Socialist "American" Workers Party than anything since 1945.

[familyop]

Benedict XVI has been doing some good work to turn European sentiment toward mutual concerns (terrorism for one) with Jewish people and consolidate all of us against real threats. Maybe that will work out some.

Radical Islam is the problem. Most Orthodox Jews stand with the rest of us to fight terrorism. Neo-Nazis are trying to distract from that and get the focus away from their Jihadi friends.

[GladesGuru]

If one remembers that most of America's Jews had grandparents or parents who came from either Germany (Marxism oriented) or Russia (Communism oriented) there remains only the pressing question of why teh continuing love of socialism?

IMHO, it is simply something absorbed while growing up. Oops - make that getting older but no wiser.

[Polybius]

As it happens, I had an American Jew tell me today that if the Christian Right in this country continued to gain power, many American Jews intend to migrate to Australia. Needless to say, this astounded me. How could it be that Jews distrust Christians as much as or maybe more than they distrust Muslims?

I believe that the Eastern European Jewish cultural memory reflexively equates a devout "Christian" with the East European "Christian" (in the loose sense of the word) mobs that devastated Jewish communities in Czarist Russia and Poland in the 19th and early 20th Century pogroms.

Their ancestral memory equates a devout "Christian" with :

These pogroms were not only tolerated but sometimes even encouraged by Czarist authorities.

It is no wonder then that Eastern European Jews were such a large component of the early Communist movement. In theory at least, Communism offered the overthrow of the hated Czarist regime, the destruction of the "Christian" religion whose clerics encouraged the pogroms and the establishment of a secular state with complete equality for Jews.

However, theory and practice are two different things. Over 90% of the Jews who fled the Czarist Russian pogroms ended up in the United States. Most of those came before the birth of the Soviet Union. They never saw the evils of the Communist system first hand.

So, the ancestral mind set becomes:

Czar = Bad.

Communism = Enemy of the Czar = Good.

Christians who take religion seriously = Pogrom = Dead Jews = Really Bad.

Secularism = No Christians = No Pogroms = Really Good.

Of course, the 21st Century American Bible Belt Protestant, who doesn't know a pogrom from a pierogi, is a totally different animal from the 19th Century Russian "Christian" peasant burning down great-garndpa's village.

However, the Eastern European Jewish ancestral memory A.) Does not realize that or B.) Doesn't want to take any chances.

This also explains the Eastern European Jewish fascination with the Left.

Large numbers of Eastern European Ashkenazi Jews were seduced by Communism because it was the enemy of the Czarist Russia under which they had suffered for so long. The Eastern European Jews followed the philosophy of, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend."

You won't find the same infatuation with Communism among Sephardic Jews.

Unfortunately, this love affair with Communism was brought to America by late 19th Century and early 20th Century Jewish immigrants before they had a chance to see for themselves what a horror Communism was. Throughout the 20th Century, the children and grandchildren of many of these early Ashkenazi Jewish immigrants were raised as "Red Diaper Babies" without questioning whether Grandpa's love of Bolshevism in the 1910's was justified.

The "Red Diaper" Jewish generations are now dying off from old age. The new Ashkenazi Jewish generations are seeing for themselves that the Left has embraced the new enemies of America which also happen to be the enemies of the Jews.

Following the "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" phenomenon, I see greater numbers of the younger Jewish generation leaving Grandpa's Bolshevism behind and coming over to the Republican Party.

[Lejes Rimul]

Like it says in the title, American Jews. Maybe they care more about American issues than Israeli ones. Not saying that liberals are right about domestic policy, just that automatically assuming that American Jews should vote Republican because of Israel is stupid. When's the last time you told a German person to vote Republican because Reagan tore down the Berlin Wall?

[piytar]

Wow! Excellent analysis!!!

[ml/nj]

Christians have been as ruthlessly cruel to Jews as Muslims have been.

Balderdash!

ML/NJ

[Celtjew Libertarian]

Christians have been as ruthlessly cruel to Jews as Muslims have been.

Balderdash!

Nope. It's the truth. In fact, up until several hundred years ago, Jews generally had it better under Muslim rulers than under Christian rulers. The "golden ages" of Jewish culture, before the past several-hundred years were 9th and 10th century Muslim Spain (before the Muslim fundamentalist Almoravides took over in the mid-11th century) and the Ottoman Empire of the 16 and 17th Century.

The latter incidentally, was mainly the result of Ferdinand and Isabella kicking the Jews out of Spain and the Ottoman Sultan Beyazid taking in as many as he could get (including one of my ancestors).

[DJ Taylor]

"Balderdash!

Your point is so articulately stated that I must now reconsider my position and readjust my thinking on this subject. Thank you for putting me straight.