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Russia against equating of Communism to Nazism - Kosachyov
Interfax ^ | Jan 20 2006

Posted on 01/21/2006 12:13:49 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

MOSCOW. Jan 20 (Interfax) - The Russian delegation to the January session of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe will strongly oppose any attempt to equate Communism to Nazism, Head of the Russian delegation to the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe and State Duma Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Konstantin Kosachyov said.

"This is unacceptable, we are not ready to uphold any attempt to compare these ideologies as branches of totalitarianism," Kosachyov said at a Friday press conference in Moscow devoted to the upcoming on January 23 PACE winter session in Strasbourg at which a resolution condemning the crimes of totalitarian communist regimes will be discussed.

A draft resolution introduced for discussion at PACE compares communism and Nazism as ideologies, Kosachyov said. Communism, as an ideology, cannot be condemned in itself, he said.

Any ideology restricted by laws cannot be banned, he said.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: china; coldwar2; commieputin; commissionarputin; communism; cpsu; eussr; fakecollapse; gru; kgb; kprf; nazism; putin; redarmy; russia; sovietunion; totalitarianism; ussr; vladimirputin
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1 posted on 01/21/2006 12:13:51 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Well Communism did get designed first so maybe it is still supreme.


2 posted on 01/21/2006 12:17:37 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Tailgunner Joe

That still doesn't put any of those guys in the league with Ruckleshaus and Rachel Carson and the 90 million people they killed by banning DDT.

3 posted on 01/21/2006 12:19:35 PM PST by darkocean
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To: darkocean

Well fascism = communism might be more accurate. Nazism, ie the German strain of fascism was particularly brutal. And ultimately they are two rationales against freedom and so naturally they lead to bad things.


4 posted on 01/21/2006 12:22:18 PM PST by JLS
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To: JLS

There is a difference in that naziism was meant only for Germans while communism was meant for the whole world. You had less of a chance of starving due to naziism, at least if you were living outside of Germany.


5 posted on 01/21/2006 12:24:40 PM PST by darkocean
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To: darkocean

You might ask the Poles about that. Nazism was meant only to benefit the Germans. Fascism is national socialism while communism is international socialism. But most certainly Nazism was meant to affect millions of people out side of German quite negatively.


6 posted on 01/21/2006 12:35:04 PM PST by JLS
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To: JLS
Nazism was meant to affect people outside of the German Reich (borders of 1937), but within what the Germans claimed as their sphere of influence. They were quite prepared to let the Japanese have most of Asia as long as they (the Nazis) could have the oil rich Middle East and the Caucasus.

The communists want(ed) all of the world.

7 posted on 01/21/2006 12:39:02 PM PST by Palpatine (Every single liberal is now an enemy of the republic!)
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To: Jeff Head; Joe Boucher; PhilDragoo; Grampa Dave; Stellar Dendrite; DarkWaters; familyop; ...

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8 posted on 01/21/2006 12:41:54 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Well, if an official of the former Soviet empire said that National Socialism and Soviet communism aren't remotely similar, I guess we can lay that idea to rest.


9 posted on 01/21/2006 12:53:45 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (The problem with being a 'big tent' Party is that the clowns are seated with the paying customers.)
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To: Just mythoughts
Communism is worse that Nazism. There have been between 25,000,000 to 40,000,000 million killed by Communist and only about 7,000,000 killed by Nazi.

But the left in the United States loves the Communist so we never heard about it.
10 posted on 01/21/2006 12:57:39 PM PST by YOUGOTIT
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Joe it is probably just one man opinion. I for one disagree with Kozachev. So you have now one vote "for".


11 posted on 01/21/2006 1:19:12 PM PST by RusIvan ("THINK!" the motto of IBM)
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To: YOUGOTIT

There have been between 25,000,000 to 40,000,000 million killed by Communist and only about 7,000,000 killed by Nazi.==

Nazi killed at keast 6 mln in only one Poland. So they killed far more then 7 mlns all together. Accually we need to calculate all victimes thoroughly.


12 posted on 01/21/2006 1:21:20 PM PST by RusIvan ("THINK!" the motto of IBM)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

"will strongly oppose any attempt to equate Communism to Nazism,"

Of course - this is an insult - the Nazis were pikers compared to the Russians - Russians were the REAL masters of Genocide.


13 posted on 01/21/2006 1:27:33 PM PST by spanalot
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To: RusIvan

Your right - all told , the Kremlin is responsible for over 100 million deaths


14 posted on 01/21/2006 1:29:32 PM PST by spanalot
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To: spanalot

Your right - all told , the Kremlin is responsible for over 100 million deaths==

"Kremlin" is ancient fortress in the middle of Moscow. http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~powellm/kremlin.html

So what you mean by your statement?


15 posted on 01/21/2006 1:45:45 PM PST by RusIvan ("THINK!" the motto of IBM)
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To: spanalot

Of course - this is an insult - the Nazis were pikers compared to the Russians - Russians were the REAL masters of Genocide.==

It is very russophobic and insulting statement. I think you are very stupid man if you said such things.


16 posted on 01/21/2006 1:48:02 PM PST by RusIvan ("THINK!" the motto of IBM)
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To: spanalot

When comparing deaths under Communism and Nazism rarely are the deaths included which were caused by the wars they started. Those should count, too, includiung the enemy deaths as well as their own.


17 posted on 01/21/2006 1:50:37 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: RusIvan

"So what you mean by your statement?"

What part of "Russia was the agent of 100 million deaths" do you not understand?

Do you think that everyone is not becoming aware of Comintern, the Internationale, and the thugs like Mao and Castro that were incubated by the Kremlin?


18 posted on 01/21/2006 2:02:06 PM PST by spanalot
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To: YOUGOTIT

You are right about which one is worse. But there is one more, much more fundamental, difference: communism is a way of life, while nazism is an ideology and not per se a way of life. The word "communism" is also used to denote an ideology, and this practice gives rise to unnecessary confusion.


19 posted on 01/21/2006 2:09:05 PM PST by GSlob
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To: Tailgunner Joe

National socialism has as much potential to perpetrate expansionism and genocide as communism. The Nazis tried to take over the world, and worse, tried to exterminate a whole demographic group of a particular system of beliefs (Jews and Judaism). Communism treated the same group brutally with both public propaganda and massacres.

Konstantin Kosachyov is a United Russia party member. Although Putin has been relatively pretty good compared to some of the old USSR leaders, his (and Kosachyov's) party tends to broadcast much toward national socialism now.

National socialism is no better or worse than communism. Both are downright ugly.


20 posted on 01/21/2006 2:12:15 PM PST by familyop
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