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1 posted on 01/19/2006 10:36:34 AM PST by flashbunny
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I think someone should tell alberto gonzales that illegal aliens are smuggling porn over our open borders. Maybe that would get them to actually do something.


2 posted on 01/19/2006 10:37:30 AM PST by flashbunny (Are you annoying ME? Are you annoying ME? You must be annoying me, since there's no one else here!)
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They really hadn't oughta use "porn" and "probe" in the same sentence.


3 posted on 01/19/2006 10:38:16 AM PST by IamConservative (Who does not trust a man of principle? A man who has none.)
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The Bush administration, seeking to revive an online pornography law struck down by the U.S. Supreme Court, has subpoenaed Google Inc. for details on what its users have been looking for through its popular search engine.

The Bush Admin is getting out of control on this stuff. I was at first willing to accept electronic survelliance without a warrant against anyone with a clear connection to al Qaeda for national security reasons.

But this isn't about terrorism or national security. There is no crime here that I can see that justifies a subpeona. This is a Justice Department that, IMO, no longer feels that the 5th applies to them - and they will lose my support over more important issues if they keep this kind of nonsense up - because then I will start to wonder, what other kind of stuff do they have the NSA looking at if they can rationalize this kind of abuse of power?

4 posted on 01/19/2006 10:41:20 AM PST by dirtboy (My new years resolution is to quit using taglines...)
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Big brother going after big brother...


5 posted on 01/19/2006 10:41:29 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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The government contends it needs the data to determine how often pornography shows up in online searches

1) It doesn't sound to me like they're looking for identities, just a tally number of pertinent searches, and

2) I'm not sure I can see how knowing a number is pertinent to the process involved in crafting the legislation.

6 posted on 01/19/2006 10:44:58 AM PST by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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Notice that this AP article repeatedly refers to "pornography," so you have to read it very closely to see that the administration is only concerned about CHILD PORNOGRAPHY.

Most people would agree that child pornography is not a good thing. Unfortunately, the liberal justices on the Supreme Court disagreed, and struck down the law.

I can see why people would worry about a slippery slope here, but it seems fairly clear that the concern is limited to child pornography. Or at least it would be clear if AP didn't deliberately distort their article.


7 posted on 01/19/2006 10:46:30 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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The phrase "overly broad" comes to mind.


8 posted on 01/19/2006 10:46:42 AM PST by glorgau
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Why the F*** does Bush care about online porn???!?

Is there a horrible stuck-keyboard-key problem in America or something???!?

The more this administration acts, the more I don't care who's in the White House next.

15 posted on 01/19/2006 10:53:18 AM PST by Lazamataz (I have a Chinese family renting an apartment from me. They are lo mein tenants.)
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Another example of how the guberment wants complete control.

Give em an inch and they'll take a mile.

What the hell? Dont parents want to raise their kids anymore? Do they want big brother to do it for them? Have these parents ever heard of paying attention to what their kids do online? Whats wrong with the parental control functions on their PCs?


26 posted on 01/19/2006 10:58:01 AM PST by crz
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I think all the President would have to do is find all the computer folks who have gone blind quickly.


45 posted on 01/19/2006 11:06:20 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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Illegal fishing expedition.


62 posted on 01/19/2006 11:14:57 AM PST by Mogengator
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Finally getting serious about controlling porn.


65 posted on 01/19/2006 11:17:40 AM PST by balch3
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The Bush administration, seeking to revive an online pornography law struck down by the U.S. Supreme Court . . . .

Dopey AP. The Supreme Court has not yet struck down the law, it just affirmed the preliminary injunction entered against enforcement of the law on the basis that it likely violated the First Amendment. Meanwhile, as the article does correctly indicate, the actual case goes on in the district court.

66 posted on 01/19/2006 11:17:51 AM PST by King of Florida
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Maybe we should have a law that says the government can come into our homes without a warrant because they are simply looking for child pornography.

Is there anything left in the Constitution the government would like to leave intact?


70 posted on 01/19/2006 11:19:29 AM PST by CodeToad
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including a request for 1 million random Web addresses and records of all Google searches from any one-week period, lawyers for the U.S. Justice Department said in papers filed Wednesday in federal court in San Jose.

Ummmm....point of order here...

Constitution of The United States of America:

4th Amendment
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated; and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched and the persons or things to be seized.

The word "random" simply doesn't cut the mustard.

91 posted on 01/19/2006 11:28:41 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Crime cannot be tolerated. Criminals thrive on the indulgences of society's understanding.)
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This looks too much like a fishing expedition.

Regardless, too many American wankers are complicit to ever tolerate a significant crackdown on porn. Even if it were revealed that a majority of internet porn used sex slaves, as is rather likely, the universal wolf would find a rationale to keep scarfing.

108 posted on 01/19/2006 11:47:55 AM PST by Dumb_Ox (http://kevinjjones.blogspot.com)
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this is nuts.

hire some FBI agents to key in the search words, and when they find sites hosting child porn - find out where they are, and use legal due process to shut them down and bust them. what is so hard about that?


151 posted on 01/19/2006 12:15:58 PM PST by oceanview
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The day that some genius decided that the First Amendment protected a photo of a guy with a whip up his butt is the day that the First Amendment ceased to have any real meaning at all.


166 posted on 01/19/2006 12:23:39 PM PST by Antoninus (The greatest gift parents can give their children is siblings.)
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This will sure be muddled with all the data mining searches we do.


173 posted on 01/19/2006 12:26:05 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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Makes me think the JD officials don't really know what they are looking for.

I could write a program (and in fact have written one) that would ping every single possible IPv4 address on the internet and do a reverse DNS look up on any that had sites operating.

As for all Google searches over a specified period, how is that gonna help with COPA?

Do kids search for porn using different search terms than adults?


212 posted on 01/19/2006 12:50:44 PM PST by Philistone (Turning lead into gold...)
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