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Our ears once breathed [evolution of ears]
Nature Magazine ^ | 18 January 2006 | Helen Pearson

Posted on 01/18/2006 6:10:34 PM PST by PatrickHenry

Our ears could have started evolutionary life as a tube for breathing, say scientists, after examining the ancestral structure in a 370-million-year-old fossil fish.

Evolutionary biologists are intrigued by how complicated sensory organs evolved from structures that may have had completely different uses in ancestral creatures. The bony structures in ancient fish, which at some point turned into ears, for example, appear to have had mainly a structural function, bracing the cheek and holding up the jaw. How exactly they made the transition to their role in hearing has proved a bit of a mystery.

The ear is a relatively easy organ to study. Its evolving bones have been preserved as fossils, whereas the soft tissues of other specialized features, such as eyes and noses, have long decayed.

So Martin Brazeau and Per Ahlberg of Uppsala University in Sweden decided to take a close look at the ear-like features of an ancient, metre-long monster from the Latvian Natural History Museum in Riga. Panderichthys was a fish, but is thought to be closely related to the earliest four-limbed tetrapods that eventually climbed on to land and gave rise to modern vertebrates.

The researchers examined Panderichthys and found that the bony structures in its head combine features of fish and tetrapods, capturing a snapshot of evolution in action. "It's neat to see that transition," says Hans Thewissen who studies the evolution of the ear and other organs at Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine, Rootstown.

Half-way house

Ancient fish have a narrow channel from the roof of the skull into the mouth, known as a spiracle, which is bounded by a long bone known as the hyomandibula that braces the cheek. In tetrapods, the equivalent bone is stubbier, a step towards the stirrup-like stapes bone that helps to transmit sound waves into our skulls.

The team found that Panderichthys has a wide, straight spiracle rather than a narrow one, and a shortened hyomandibula. They report their findings in Nature1.

Some have previously speculated that our ancient ears may have had a role in breathing.

On the basis of this new fossil evidence, the team speculates that the widened spiracle may have served Panderichthys much like the breathing holes used by modern-day sharks and rays. These allow the fish to inhale water over their gills while lying on the seabed, and avoid gulping in grit through the mouth.

The demonstration of an organ evolving provides tangible evidence against the idea, put forward by some proponents of creationism, that sensory organs are so intricate that they must have been designed by a higher being. Brazeau says: "It's a slap in the face to that kind of thinking."


Footnote 1: Brazeau M. D.& Ahlberg P. E. Nature, 439. 318 - 321 (2006).


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: crevolist; sweden
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To: crghill
Why do scientists continue to deny the fact that God created mankind?

No one denies any such thing. There simply is no POSITIVE evidence for that position.

There is more scientific evidence that points to that fact than the scientists can ever make up for their imaginary beliefs.

Really? And what would that scientific evidence be?

Our ears never breathed...what a bunch of hooey!

Hey, they presented their evidence. Why don't you present yours?

81 posted on 01/18/2006 6:54:01 PM PST by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: PatrickHenry

That's just preposterous! People go to such extremes just to not believe in the creation.


82 posted on 01/18/2006 6:54:03 PM PST by FrdmLvr
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To: crghill

I wouldn't be so quick to write this off after seeing so many liberals talk through their ass.


83 posted on 01/18/2006 6:54:05 PM PST by rdcorso (There Is No Such Thing As A Neutral Person During A War With Radical Islam.)
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To: crghill
Just don't try to mislead the whole world into believing that a microbe tripped on the sand, grew into a snail, which fell off a ledge and became a snake that became a monkey that metamorphed into a human being. That's just stupid!

That is stupid, which is why that's not what evolutionary biology actually says.

Who's responsible for your cartoon-level fantasies about biology? I'll bet it's a creationist pamphlet or website, because the Discovery Channel and so on aren't *that* bad at explaining the actual science.

84 posted on 01/18/2006 6:54:13 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: jwalsh07
Oh, sure, get all technical on me, with your big numbers :)

I dunno, honestly - I haven't spent much time looking into the evolution of the inner ear. Lemme get back to you...

85 posted on 01/18/2006 6:54:14 PM PST by Senator Bedfellow
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To: PatrickHenry

Our ears could have started evolutionary life as a tube for breathing, say scientists.... 

Ancient fish have a narrow channel from the roof of the skull into the mouth, known as a spiracle... 

Some have previously speculated that our ancient ears may have had a role in breathing.

On the basis of this new fossil evidence, the team speculates that the widened spiracle may have served Panderichthys much like the breathing holes used by modern-day sharks and rays. These allow the fish to inhale water over their gills while lying on the seabed, and avoid gulping in grit through the mouth.

The demonstration of an organ evolving provides tangible evidence against the idea, put forward by some proponents of creationism, that sensory organs are so intricate that they must have been designed by a higher being. Brazeau says: "It's a slap in the face to that kind of thinking."
 
Nothing like Hard, Hard proof to slap down an argument. Wow! I still feel the sting!

86 posted on 01/18/2006 6:55:01 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (outside a good dog, a book is your best friend. inside a dog it's too dark to read)
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To: crghill
I'll get over myself the moment that people who are scared to death of religion get over themselves trying to prove there is no God.

Actually I liked my religion, Greek Mythology, before it evolved into its present day form of religion. Back then we had Gods who were specialists,
87 posted on 01/18/2006 6:55:31 PM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: shuckmaster; crghill
Do you even know what a microbe is?

It's a millionth of a be: a very small level of existance

88 posted on 01/18/2006 6:55:40 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering)
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To: PatrickHenry

Well this article explains everything, 370 million years
from gills to ears. Why did some fish change and others
havent changed much at all?


89 posted on 01/18/2006 6:55:50 PM PST by claptrap (optional tag-line under reconsideration)
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To: Ichneumon
LOL......

I wonder why a science thread can't just be a science thread anymore......

I thought we had a religion section!

Just my thoughts as I look at another ridiculous and useless argument that never ends and never evolves......:-)
90 posted on 01/18/2006 6:56:31 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: PatrickHenry

Man, this thread has brought out the Luddite rear guard like few ever have. Congrats.


91 posted on 01/18/2006 6:56:49 PM PST by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: Mamzelle
Is "Nature" magazine peer-reviewed?

That's like asking whether the pope is Catholic. Nature is by far the most prestigeous natural science peer-reviewed journal in the world!

92 posted on 01/18/2006 6:56:57 PM PST by curiosity
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To: PatrickHenry
Our ears could have started evolutionary life as a tube for breathing,...

I beleive it. Even now there are examples of that.

I have seen several people with holes in their earlobes.

94 posted on 01/18/2006 6:57:22 PM PST by Dan(9698)
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To: Mamzelle
Maybe we should regard all scientists with a heapin' helpin' of sketpticism

And that, MiLady, is exactly what peer review is. Exactly.

95 posted on 01/18/2006 6:57:42 PM PST by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: crghill
"There is more scientific evidence that points to that fact than the scientists can ever make up for their imaginary beliefs."

There is not a shred of scientific evidence for the existence of a Deity and you tend to demean the concept of G-d by suggesting the need for it, IMHO.

96 posted on 01/18/2006 6:58:10 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
We must have evolved. Embryos have gill slits.

(I know, but this was taught to me years ago by an evo-teacher. Later on, I learned embryology--and the teachers of the real subject never even mentioned evolution. That's because real science--not fanciful speculation--is practical.)

97 posted on 01/18/2006 6:58:19 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Oztrich Boy
It's a millionth of a be: a very small level of existance

ROTFLMAO!

98 posted on 01/18/2006 6:59:34 PM PST by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: PatrickHenry
Our ears could have started evolutionary life as a tube for breathing, say scientists, after examining the ancestral structure in a 370-million-year-old fossil fish.

Yeah. Well, I studied a 371-million-year-old fossil fish and concluded that our (#^% could have started evolutionary life as a $#@^ for $#@^ing.

99 posted on 01/18/2006 7:00:13 PM PST by Barnacle (The Democrat Party consists of a gaggle of criminal defense attorneys, and their clients.)
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To: wfallen

"My question was:
"Now if somebody could explain where the first cell came from"

I don't remember it being answered, so please tell me again."

Let me refresh your memory.


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100 posted on 01/18/2006 7:02:23 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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