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1 posted on 01/18/2006 1:12:51 PM PST by BobDobbs9911
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I don't know if I'd say that is promoting hate. They are trying to promote paranoia--not quite the same.


2 posted on 01/18/2006 1:17:00 PM PST by Brilliant
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3 posted on 01/18/2006 1:18:07 PM PST by Alouette (The Anti-Borg - You Will NOT be Assimilated!)
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It's a small little thing, but didn't Sarah laugh at both her husbands age and her age having a child. Not just that Abraham was so old.


4 posted on 01/18/2006 1:19:23 PM PST by onja ("The government of England is a limited mockery." (France is a complete mockery.)
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"Peace is a foundational Jewish value."

Peace is good. Freedom is better.(tm)

Why Do “Jewish Organizations” Promote Hate Between Jew and Christian?

Because many / most "Jews" in America place Leftism ahead of Judaism. Leftists must first destroy Western Civilization before they can implement their dystopia. Conservative Christianity is the bulwark of Western Civilization, so their project requires them to attack it.

(This is a Conservative Jew's Perspective; so don't go "Anti-Semite!" on me.)

5 posted on 01/18/2006 1:22:21 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Liberals oppose individual slavery compared to colletive slavery because they hate competition!)
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BUMP


6 posted on 01/18/2006 1:23:47 PM PST by Albion Wilde (America will not run, and we will not forget our responsibilities. – George W. Bush)
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Q: Why Do “Jewish Organizations” Promote Hate Between Jew and Christian?

The answer to this question is so simple, it will surprise you.

A: Not all Jewish organizations do.

Jews can be categorized, more or less, into two different groups: There are secular Jews and religious Jews.

Secular Jews want to be "Jewish" without having to actually learn much about their own religion. Therefore, when they are confronted with Christianity, which is much more simple to explain than Judaism, they do not know how to debate the merits of their own faith. Naturally they feel vulnerable and even threatened and their organizations reflect this feeling by commenting excessively about the outside Christian world.

Religious Jews have very little problem with Christians because religious Jews know who they are and how to debate the merits of their own faith. They don't feel vulnerable or threatened. Their organizations generally don't concern themselves with the outside Christian world.

It is actually that simple, IMHO.
8 posted on 01/18/2006 1:27:57 PM PST by TSchmereL ("Rust but terrify.")
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The ADL has MUCH more to fear from Evangelical Christians than from Muslim fanatics. Muslim fanatics kill small numbers of Jews resulting in large donations to the ADL. Evalgelical Christians convert larger numbers of Jews, resulting in reduced donations to the ADL... Follow the money...


10 posted on 01/18/2006 1:28:25 PM PST by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some FReepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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Part of the answer maybe found in the following article The Changing Role of B'nai B'rith's Anti-Defamation League
11 posted on 01/18/2006 1:30:31 PM PST by Man50D
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A lot of liberal Jews care more about liberalism than they do about Judism. Liberalism tends to hate Christianity. I don't think it has anything to do with being Jews.


12 posted on 01/18/2006 1:31:07 PM PST by Always Right
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One reason is who the Conservative Christians support in Israel.

They support the Right.

If you read Foxman and Yoffie opinions on Israel you will find that they are in the "give peace a chance", moral equivalence, the surrender camp.

The Israeli Right, their political enemies, are supported by conservative Christians.

Christian supporters of Israel may find it strange, but it may be a case of the friend of my enemy is my enemy.

Christians are not the main target, they are the friends.

If you manage to weaken the friendship you also weaken your real enemy. The Israeli Right.

For the same reason the Leftist Israeli newspaper Haaretz also publishes stories to elicit problems between Christians and Jews.


14 posted on 01/18/2006 1:32:23 PM PST by Sabramerican
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""Where do these traditional Christian values come from? Why, from the Bible of course. ""

This is evidence, in my opinion, that Christianity has indeed "superseded" Judaism as the covenant religion. The majority of those Jews who rejected the Messiah do not seem interested in the Torah law that He instituted. Thus, the vast majority of Jews are very liberal - including on basic moral issues like abortion and "assisted suicide." They are in opposition to God's law. This should not come as a surprise, because Jesus - the Messiah - IS God, and rejecting Him is, well, rejecting Him.

15 posted on 01/18/2006 1:34:03 PM PST by churchillbuff
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The Bible really is a good book!


16 posted on 01/18/2006 1:35:27 PM PST by NeilGus
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It depends on the organization. If you are a liberal fund-raising organization like the ADL, it's very tempting, because it's a good way to raise funds from a liberal constituency.

The more they play to their donors' fears, the more money pours in. Simple.


24 posted on 01/18/2006 1:43:43 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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I knew from the title it was about Foxman. Take the plural off the title, he's the little goon that pulls this stuff.


35 posted on 01/18/2006 2:00:39 PM PST by AmishDude
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Secular organizations and individuals have absolutely no business claiming to speak for the organized Jewish community when G-d A-mighty has established an official leadership for that community: the Orthodox rabbinate. Unfortunately that leadership has been very quietistic until recently while secularists and heretics of various sorts took their place in representing Judaism to the non-Jewish world. That is beginning to change now, thank G-d, but it is lamentable that it ever came about and has lasted so long. Part of the blame for this situation doubtless stems from the gradual transformation of the Jewish community from a Theocratic nation in exile (with its own civil government and laws) to a mere religious denomination. The time has come for the Rabbinate not only to speak up as it is beginning to do but to crack down on everyone who is Halakhically Jewish and thus under their G-d-ordained authority.

As dismal as this situation has become I think that it is the Black community that risks a backlash more than any other. Each year on MLK Day we are reminded of "the dream" which has shifted from every citizen's right to vote to "gay rights" and the killing of the terminally ill, yet the Black community keeps its eyes closed and completely ignores the ever growing radicalism of its "friends" and associations as it continues to live in the Fifties. Where is the Black equivalent of the rabbinate to speak out on this?

41 posted on 01/18/2006 2:20:51 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Shallach 'et `ammi veya`avduni!)
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Here is a Bible search on the word "remnant", which describes what I believe may be God's plan for the Jewish people:


O LORD, God of Israel, you are righteous! We are left this day as a remnant. Here we are before you in our guilt, though because of it not one of us can stand in your presence. Ezra 9:14-16

A remnant will return, a remnant of Jacob will return to the Mighty God. Isaiah 10:20-22

Though your people, O Israel, be like the sand by the sea, only a remnant will return. Destruction has been decreed, overwhelming and righteous. Isaiah 10:21-23

In that day the LORD Almighty will be a glorious crown, a beautiful wreath for the remnant of his people. Isaiah 28:4-6

Once more a remnant of the house of Judah will take root below and bear fruit above. Isaiah 37:30-32

For out of Jerusalem will come a remnant, and out of Mount Zion a band of survivors. The zeal of the LORD Almighty will accomplish this. Isaiah 37:31-33

This is what the LORD Almighty says: "Let them glean the remnant of Israel as thoroughly as a vine; pass your hand over the branches again, like one gathering grapes." Jeremiah 6:8-10

I myself will gather the remnant of my flock out of all the countries where I have driven them and will bring them back to their pasture, where they will be fruitful and increase in number. Jeremiah 23:2-4

Gaza will shave her head in mourning; Ashkelon will be silenced. O remnant on the plain, how long will you cut yourselves? Jeremiah 47:4-6

In those days, at that time," declares the LORD, "search will be made for Israel's guilt, but there will be none, and for the sins of Judah, but none will be found, for I will forgive the remnant I spare." Jeremiah 50:19-21

I will surely gather all of you, O Jacob; I will surely bring together the remnant of Israel. I will bring them together like sheep in a pen, like a flock in its pasture; the place will throng with people. Micah 2:11-13

The remnant of Jacob will be in the midst of many peoples like dew from the LORD, like showers on the grass, which do not wait for man or linger for mankind. Micah 5:6-8

The remnant of Jacob will be among the nations, in the midst of many peoples, like a lion among the beasts of the forest, like a young lion among flocks of sheep, which mauls and mangles as it goes, and no one can rescue. Micah 5:7-9

Isaiah cries out concerning Israel: "Though the number of the Israelites be like the sand by the sea, only the remnant will be saved." Romans 9:26-28


42 posted on 01/18/2006 2:21:30 PM PST by Albion Wilde (America will not run, and we will not forget our responsibilities. – George W. Bush)
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Its been my experience growing up in Long Island New York that most Jews are Liberals first, Jews second and Americans last.

Also, American Jews used to support Israel. Now most support the Palestinians. Go figure
48 posted on 01/18/2006 2:29:15 PM PST by dinok
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whatever it is, hate, paranoia or just worry..it's very stupid to be doing in this day and age of islamofacists


59 posted on 01/18/2006 3:32:41 PM PST by rang1995 (They will love us when we win)
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60 posted on 01/18/2006 3:56:13 PM PST by SJackson (Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants to see us happy. B. Franklin)
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"The more he says that 'you people are destroying this country,' you know, some people are going to begin to get fed up with this and say, 'Well, all right then. If that's the way you feel, then we just won't support Israel anymore.' "

I really don't believe that TRUE Christians are EVER going to turn their backs on the Jews. No matter what. We, who have read the Bible, know and understand what our relationship to the Jews is. After all, Jesus and all of his disciples were Jews. To turn away from the Jews, would be to turn away from Jesus and the Prophets of old. I just ignore the Christian haters. It doesn't bother me.

70 posted on 01/18/2006 5:43:08 PM PST by NRA2BFree (http://www.angelfire.com/nm2/chainreaction/Kitties/LittleFReepers.html)
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