Posted on 01/17/2006 9:47:28 AM PST by kiriath_jearim
Home Owner Shoots Would Be Robbers Eyewitness News
(01/16/06 - ORANGE COUNTY) - Two Orange County women are recovering from bullet wounds after surviving a violent home invasion.
It began early Monday morning on Lipscomb Grove Church Road when two suspects kicked in the front door of a home, and shot the two women watching TV inside. Marjorie Whitted, 50, and her 27-year-old daughter, Vicky both suffered bullet wounds to their legs.
Carlton Whitted, 62, was in the bedroom when the men broke in. "They be saying I been shot I been shot." P> The suspects tried to push their way into Carlton's bedroom but Carlton had other plans. "I seen my rifle sitting in the corner I reached and grabbed it and I turned the door loose." Whitted says he shot both men in the back as they tried to escape. "I was going to shoot them in the head that's when the bullets gave out to clicking. I went in there and reloaded and I don't know which way they went."
The shooters got away. Investigators used K9 units to track them.
The suspects turned up at Duke University Medical Center for their bulled wounds.
Whitted is just grateful his wife and daughter weren't seriously hurt. "I don't know what they were wanting."
Sounds like Homer used a hunting rifle or a mil surplus with 5 rounds.
Im amazed they got 50 feet.
Good for Carlton. Glad no one was hurt but the perps by the high powered rounds.
Apparently, Whitted's rifle ( a 16 shot 22) wasn't fully loaded. "I was going to kill them, but it clicked," Whitted said of his rifle.
was perlexed as to why a his rifle went to clickin. I figured it was a 5 round mag and was a high power rifle.
Thinking it was a high powered rifle left me perplexed, since the perps didnt die
I am happy you are ok and your family survived.
I am however, troubled that the punks you engaged so well are still breathing.
May I suggest a 40 sw high cap pistol loaded with corbons? If you are adverse to a pistol because of your eyesight may I suggest a 12 gauge shotgun? or a 40 sw carbine?
Good work Carlton.
Stay safe
The jury thought so too.
They didn't die... but it did seem to ruin their plans.
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"clap clap clap clap"....Broke-Back Mounting diagnosis?
Texas State Penal Code Chapter 9,
SUBCHAPTER C. PROTECTION OF PERSONS
§ 9.31. SELF-DEFENSE.
(c) The use of force to resist an arrest or search is justified:
(1) if, before the actor offers any resistance, the peace officer (or person acting at his direction) uses or attempts to use greater force than necessary to make the arrest or search; and
(2) when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to protect himself against the peace officer's (or other person's) use or attempted use of greater force than necessary.
The only people who claimed the davidians shot first were the LEOs at the scene lying to cover their asses, and lying facist commiecrats like Chuck Shumer trying to protect their police state. They had already voilated the Posse Comitatus Act. All of the evidence in the books and videos done on the subject show the ATF shooting first.
I think I have established my credibility, and I'm not anti-LEO. The current administration runs a respectable outfit.
As FNG pointed out, there is disagreement about who shot first. Some believe that the BATF agents first shot the dogs, who were penned up outside of the front of the Branch Davidians building and were barking furiously, as you might expect. The dogs were shot, that much is known.
As for who was truthful, it was proven that the FBI's Hostage Rescue Team did lie about other things that occurred at the standoff. My Grandaddy taught me that lies were like rats: for every one you saw, there were a hundred others.
Glad Boo isn't taking a dirt nap!
The Feds also lied about Davidian's making drugs to violate Posse Comitatus and get the military involved. The "meth lab" that was there used by the previous inhabitants was completely dismantled. It was just a bunch of junk containers and tubes stored in a closet.
NRA lawyers wanted to X-ray the illegally converted full-auto rifles "found" as evidence the Davidians had broken a firearm law, which was the reason for the initial ATF raid of the compound. This was to show if the conversion took place before or after the fire, and they were not allowed access to them. Smells like a throwdown plant to me. The FLIR re-enactment was also done improperly and looked like a whitewash. Federal LEOs are now operating with integrity under the current administration, and I respect them and the tough jobs they do. However, there were just too many unscrupulous actions by them during the Ruby Ridge and Waco era.
My quote of the law applied to my belief the ATF rolled out of their trailers shooting first. A bunch of heavily armed JBTs storming your home without identifying themselves first could be considered greater than necessary force, even if they were not shooting. Anyway, the courts sided with me here and did not convict the Davidians. All of the video tape I have seen of the raid was edited, so it was meaningless as for as determining who shot first. I'll leave the childish finger-pointing as to who is credible and who is not up to you.
First, you cannot tell me I "know" my belief was wrong based on your interpretation of the video. It's possible you could change my mind if we sat down and thoroughly reviewed the film together, analyzing the evidences of gunshots. Let's drop the "who shot first" argument. Since you called BS on the Texas law that allows deadly force to be used on LEOs under certain circumstances, perhaps you dislike that law and wish it did not exist. I cannot speak for your opinion of that law, just merely speculate. Texas has had problems with "kick" robberies, where intruders have busted into people's front doors while they were still awake. The only point I'm trying to make is that Texas has some radical defesne laws compared to other states. I belive these laws comply with the intent of our founding fathers that the second amendment allows us to be secure in our homes, we and deserve due process. That is what seaparates the America from facist countries. Randy Weaver and David Koresh broke laws, but the LEOs in both cases made mistakes which resulted in unnecessary gunfights and resulted in Weaver and Koresh not getting due process of law. Randy Weaver's settlement and the Davidians lack on conviction proved the courts believed the LEOs were out of line in those cases. Don't assume I want to shoot cops because I believe in self defense rights under Texas state laws.
Also makes one wonder whether the break was random or had something to do with one of the adult children living there.
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