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To: FNG
>The only people who claimed the davidians shot first were the LEOs at the scene lying to cover their asses, and lying facist commiecrats like Chuck Shumer trying to protect their police state. They had already voilated the Posse Comitatus Act. All of the evidence in the books and videos done on the subject show the ATF shooting first.
I think I have established my credibility, and I'm not anti-LEO. The current administration runs a respectable outfit.

With all respect, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. I covered that story for network. I have reviewed the tapes of the initial assault probably 500 times. I have used the video in many stories. My crew shot a lot of the immediate after initial assault video. The Davidians shot first. Period.

Did ATF screw up by not taking Keresh when he was away from the compound? Absolutely.

Did they do a poor job of securing the compound during the siege? Yes.

Was the final assault poorly planned and executed? Yes.

Did the feds shoot first? Absolutely not!

PS: Your quote of law is not justification for shooting LEOs as you would have it. You are not even close. If you can go back and see the fatal flaw in your legal logic, I'll consider you improved, not imbecilic.

Finally, your claim that "I think I have established my credibility."

True. By your own words you have absolutely, positively and permanently established your level of credibility more surely than anyone opposing your beliefs ever could.
54 posted on 01/18/2006 7:31:03 PM PST by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in RVN meant never having to say I was sorry....)
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To: MindBender26

My quote of the law applied to my belief the ATF rolled out of their trailers shooting first. A bunch of heavily armed JBTs storming your home without identifying themselves first could be considered greater than necessary force, even if they were not shooting. Anyway, the courts sided with me here and did not convict the Davidians. All of the video tape I have seen of the raid was edited, so it was meaningless as for as determining who shot first. I'll leave the childish finger-pointing as to who is credible and who is not up to you.


55 posted on 01/19/2006 5:26:53 AM PST by FNG
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To: MindBender26
"I covered that story for network."

What the heck does that mean? Are you saying you work for CBS, CNN, NBC or ABC? If so, you are a liberal troll and have no credibility on this forum.

73 posted on 01/23/2006 2:04:14 PM PST by Godebert
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