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Israel rules Pollard not prisoner of Zion
Science Daily ^ | January 16, 2006

Posted on 01/16/2006 8:10:56 PM PST by Howlin

Edited on 01/16/2006 8:30:39 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

JERUSALEM, Jan. 16 (UPI) -- Israel's high court ruled Monday against convicted spy Jonathan Pollard's request to be deemed a prisoner of Zion and repatriated from the United States.

Pollard, a civilian U.S. Naval intelligence analyst pleaded guilty to espionage on June 4, 1986, and received a life sentence and a recommendation that he never be paroled.

He was granted Israeli citizenship in 1996 after Israel recognized his status as a spy and pledged to fund his legal expenses, the Jerusalem Post reported.

However, in court the government argued that Pollard cannot be granted the status because Zionist organizations and activities are not banned under U.S. law.

Pollard's wife, Esther, told Army Radio she found it "unbelievable" that Israel would work to release killers in other countries but let Pollard stay in prison.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: israel; leftbyhisownspypals; pollard; ratcaught; spy; traitor
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To: Radix
If you really want an eye-opener on this topic, just talk to someone who has worked in U.S. intelligence for any period of time. Even the non-classified things they can share with you ought to be enough to dispel this silly idea that Israel is really a friend of the United States.
41 posted on 01/16/2006 9:06:17 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Said the night wind to the little lamb . . . "Do you see what I see?")
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To: Johnnyboy2000
I cannot justify the killing of American servicemen.

The matter is as I said problematic.

I wish that I could explain the matter, but I simply cannot.

Nevertheless, I support the Israelis, and I firmly believe the any Nation which goes against them is in for trouble.

Call me a fool.
42 posted on 01/16/2006 9:07:49 PM PST by Radix (Welcome home 3 ID!)
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To: Alberta's Child

It is a troubling matter.

I still support Israel.

Call me superstitious.

Genesis 12:3
And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.


43 posted on 01/16/2006 9:12:06 PM PST by Radix (Welcome home 3 ID!)
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To: Michael.SF.

The fact that even an unprincipled, mentally dysfunctional sh!t like Bill Clinton wouldn't grant a pardon to Pollard ought to tell you something.


44 posted on 01/16/2006 9:13:45 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Said the night wind to the little lamb . . . "Do you see what I see?")
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To: Radix

I know you don't really justify the attack an that you want what is best for America. I just wanted to make a point. I also don't think we should stand against Israel. I actually think we should stand with them for the most part. I just get frustrated when people act as if Israel can do no wrong and that the U.S. should support all of their policies.

Some people in this country and on FR seem to think U.S. and Israeli intersts are the same thing, but they are not. It is insulting the way Israel has acted as if we have wronged them by arresting this traitor. Pollard should be thankful he wasn't executed like countless other spies captured by America in the past.


45 posted on 01/16/2006 9:15:54 PM PST by Johnnyboy2000 (Give it all up tommorrow to live in world without crime, and go back tothe circuit riding motocross)
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To: Radix

It's pretty surreal seeing and hearing biblical references from that from people here in the U.S., who give these Old Testament citations far more weight than most Israelis do.


46 posted on 01/16/2006 9:18:01 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Said the night wind to the little lamb . . . "Do you see what I see?")
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To: Johnnyboy2000

One Jew = an idea.

Two Jews = an arguement

Three Jews = a Revolution.

Israel= A conundrum for the world.


47 posted on 01/16/2006 9:20:17 PM PST by Radix (Welcome home 3 ID!)
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To: Alberta's Child

Gosh, after reading this thread I really should be regretting all of those religion courses that I took back in the 70s.


48 posted on 01/16/2006 9:22:39 PM PST by Radix (Welcome home 3 ID!)
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To: Peach

What's that supposed to mean? He is a treasonous traitor to the US and he should be executed, not thrown a parade.


49 posted on 01/16/2006 9:22:49 PM PST by steel_resolve
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To: steel_resolve

Who said anything about a parade? What's your problem?


50 posted on 01/16/2006 9:23:35 PM PST by Peach
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To: Radix; fallujah-nuker

"...and I firmly believe the any Nation which goes against them is in for trouble."

Exactly. Though sometimes the best thing we can do is allow a nation to stand on it's own and let nature take it's course. If Nixon had done the smart thing and not come to the aid of Israel, they would've been pushed into letting loose the nukes. Then, with tens of millions of Muslims already dead, there would've been no reason not to finish the job and the oil tankers coming from the Middle East today would be flying the Star of David.


51 posted on 01/16/2006 9:24:06 PM PST by neutronsgalore (Waffling George has failed to secure the borders...now it's Bouncing Betty's turn!)
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To: Alberta's Child

exactly my point


52 posted on 01/16/2006 9:25:10 PM PST by Michael.SF. ('Only thing worse than a Frenchman is a Frenchman who lives in Canada' - Ted Nugent.)
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To: Johnnyboy2000

It appears you voted for Clinton.


53 posted on 01/16/2006 9:27:42 PM PST by DoNotDivide (Were the American Revolutionaries rebelling against Constituted Authority and thereby God? I say no.)
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To: neutronsgalore

If it weren't for Nixon, Communist China might have dried up on the vine and resembled North Korea today.


54 posted on 01/16/2006 9:30:13 PM PST by DoNotDivide (Were the American Revolutionaries rebelling against Constituted Authority and thereby God? I say no.)
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To: Peach

I have a problem with anyone that tries to excuse someone that did DISASTOROUS damage to US Intelligence by intimating that since it was done on Israel's behalf, it's all ok. It's not ok. He is a traitor and if it were up to me, he would be a dead one.


55 posted on 01/16/2006 9:33:30 PM PST by steel_resolve
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To: Johnnyboy2000
Some people in this country and on FR seem to think U.S. and Israeli intersts are the same thing, but they are not. It is insulting the way Israel has acted as if we have wronged them by arresting this traitor. Pollard should be thankful he wasn't executed like countless other spies captured by America in the past.

Of course no foreign country's interests can ever be completely aligned with that of another. If they were, then they would be the same country, but historically Israel has the best record of voting with the U.S.(in the U.N.) If any country is basically on the same page as the U.S., then it is Israel.

As to Mr. Pollard, you seem to think that all of Israel is demanding special treatment for him. Many convicted spies and traitors have not been executed, and many spies have not recieved life sentences. Many have actually had their sentence reduced.

56 posted on 01/16/2006 9:34:03 PM PST by ozoneliar ("The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants" -T.J.)
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To: DoNotDivide

Yeah I voted for Clinton.

Why don't you actually read my posts on this thread? I stated that not pardoning Pollard was one of Clinton's better moments. If I think not pardoning a traitor criminal is one of his better moments, it is quite obvious that I don't think he was a very good president. You are quite perceptive.


57 posted on 01/16/2006 9:35:52 PM PST by Johnnyboy2000 (Give it all up tommorrow to live in world without crime, and go back tothe circuit riding motocross)
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To: steel_resolve

Did you even read the post to which I was replying before you made your original post to me? Why don't you do that before you go spouting off.

I've never seen anyone advocate that this guy be let go. Or released to Israel.


58 posted on 01/16/2006 9:36:45 PM PST by Peach
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To: Alberta's Child
It's pretty surreal seeing and hearing biblical references from that from people here in the U.S., who give these Old Testament citations far more weight than most Israelis do.

I'm not exactly sure what your point is. The majority of Israelis are not religous. There is a minority that are. But, regardless, what does ones faith in the Bible have to do with what Israelis believe?

59 posted on 01/16/2006 9:37:04 PM PST by ozoneliar ("The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants" -T.J.)
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To: Alberta's Child
The fact that even an unprincipled, mentally dysfunctional sh!t like Bill Clinton wouldn't grant a pardon to Pollard ought to tell you something.

Yeah, it tells me there was nothing in it for him.

60 posted on 01/16/2006 9:39:29 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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