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Nagin: God mad at America, but also at blacks
Nola.com ^ | 1/16/2006 | Associated Press

Posted on 01/16/2006 2:16:35 PM PST by Neville72

NEW ORLEANS (AP) — Mayor Ray Nagin suggested that recent destruction from hurricanes Katrina, Rita and other natural disasters is a sign that "God is mad at America," and also mad at black communities for tearing themselves apart with violence and divisive politics.

"Surely God is mad at America. He sent us hurricane after hurricane after hurricane, and it's destroyed and put stress on this country," Nagin said as he and other city leaders commemorated Martin Luther King Day. "Surely he doesn't approve of us being in Iraq under false pretenses. But surely he is upset at black America also. We're not taking care of ourselves."

Joking that he may appear to have "post-Katrina stress disorder," Nagin, who is black, talked of an imaginary conversation with the late civil rights leader. They "talked," he said, while he was thinking Monday about what to say at the ceremony outside City Hall to kick off a walking parade in King's honor.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: herewegoagain; katrina; nagin; neworleans; wrathofgod
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I'm afraid I know who they all are and even remember when they were all newcomers to TV.

Don't ask me much about what's on TV now,though,I'm out of the loop.


61 posted on 01/16/2006 8:51:45 PM PST by Mears (j)
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To: Neville72

As if God is really happy with Nagin.


62 posted on 01/16/2006 8:52:52 PM PST by Fruitbat
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To: mosquewatch.com

You are as in you're an idiot. Not 'your an idiot.'


63 posted on 01/16/2006 9:01:27 PM PST by CJ Wolf (BTW can someone add 'zot' to the FR spellchecker?)
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To: Neville72

65 posted on 01/16/2006 10:11:52 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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GOD has nothing to do with Nagin's worthless comments or decisions.

Anyway, he's a Texan now, ain't he? How is he still Gov of LA?


66 posted on 01/16/2006 10:36:46 PM PST by IntheHillsGolden (You pass through places ...and places pass through you.........)
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To: Dark Skies

I don't believe God gets mad at us, I think it's just what's supposed to happen.


67 posted on 01/17/2006 2:53:09 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Neville72
Joking that he may appear to have "post-Katrina stress disorder," Nagin... (made an ass of himself)...

No, Ray. You were an idiot before Katrina, as well...

68 posted on 01/17/2006 3:02:36 AM PST by gridlock (eliminate perverse incentives)
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To: Neville72

Right. Blame it on God.


69 posted on 01/17/2006 3:03:42 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: RockinRight
He already tried blaming Republicans, and that didn't work, so he just moved up to God...

His mistake here is that Republicans are too gutless to get even. You can't say that about God.

70 posted on 01/17/2006 3:18:34 AM PST by Hardastarboard
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To: stuartcr
I don't believe God gets mad at us, I think it's just what's supposed to happen.

I was just teasing Nagin. However, I do imagine that God gets disappointed in us when we don't listen to him and, alternatively, pleased when we do.

But as CS Lewis said (to paraphrase), "we (humans) live in enemy territory." So I wouldn't blame anything on God but instead on the Fallen Angel and ourselves for following him.

71 posted on 01/17/2006 5:16:08 AM PST by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: Neville72

Hey, everybody, how many of you read the story, instead of just the posted excerpt? Looks like he spent most of his time talking about the black community, not about whites and the government. What do you find in the following that you disagree with?

"I said, 'What is it going to take for us to move on and live your dream and make it a reality?' He said, 'I don't think that we need to pay attention any more as much about other folks and racists on the other side.' He said, 'The thing we need to focus on as a community — black folks I'm talking about — is ourselves.'"

Nagin told the crowd that he also asked, "Why is black-on-black crime such an issue? Why do our young men hate each other so much that they look their brother in the face and they will take a gun and kill him in cold blood?"

The reply, he said, was, "We as a people need to fix ourselves first."

A day earlier, gunfire had erupted at a traditional second-line walking parade to commemorate King's birthday. Three people were wounded in the shooting in broad daylight amid a throng of mostly black spectators, but police at the scene said there were no immediate suspects or even witnesses.

Nagin said King would not have worried less about those committing crimes than about the good people who knew what was right but lacked the courage to do it.

"It's time for all of us good folk to stand up and say we're tired of the violence. We're tired of black folks killing each other," Nagin said.

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But Nagin also said King would have been dismayed with black leaders who are "most of the time tearing each other down publicly for the delight of many."

"Dr. King, if he was here today, he would be talking to us about this problem. The problem we have among ourselves," Nagin said.


72 posted on 01/17/2006 7:08:38 AM PST by RonF
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To: RonF

I heard a good portion of his speech last night and he hit the nail on the head. Finally a black leader had the guts to say what needed to be said.

70% of births in the black community are to SINGLE MOTHERS. I couldn't believe he said that! Maybe he will emerge as a true LEADER when all is said and done.

The blame it on God part was in answer to the Black Community being displeasing in the eyes of God.


73 posted on 01/17/2006 7:12:28 AM PST by bonfire
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To: EricOF
I just wonder if Mayor Laura Miller of Dallas had called for a "vanilla" Dallas, would it be on MSM nationwide??

And, New Orleans started out French (caucasian) and Spanish (hispanic). I don't recall it was under African rule, ever. Nagin got in a huff due to too many hispanic workers in NO. I think he is showing his true colors for all to see. What a dullard. Good Morning America did point out that many of the Tulane white students found his chocolate comment repulsive and now want to leave the school. Also, some blacks thought it was over the top as well.
74 posted on 01/17/2006 7:22:34 AM PST by billygoatgruff
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To: Dark Skies

We obviously believe differently.


75 posted on 01/17/2006 1:27:03 PM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: stuartcr
We obviously believe differently.

That isn't a strongly held belief of mine. I certainly agree that things just happen (I think). Tell me where I can correct my thinking if I am going astray.

76 posted on 01/17/2006 2:22:32 PM PST by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: stuartcr

I do believe strongly in the part about not blaming God, however. Everything He has done in my life has certainly been for my betterment.


77 posted on 01/17/2006 2:24:45 PM PST by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: Neville72

78 posted on 01/17/2006 2:29:39 PM PST by maggief (Hillary!/Belafonte '08)
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To: IntheHillsGolden

79 posted on 01/17/2006 2:31:47 PM PST by maggief (Hillary!/Belafonte '08)
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To: KarlInOhio

"How long can you tread water?"


80 posted on 01/17/2006 2:32:06 PM PST by dfwgator
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