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The origins of the Great War of 2007 - and how it could have been prevented
Daily Telegraph ^ | January 15, 2005 | Niall Ferguson

Posted on 01/16/2006 9:28:48 AM PST by B.Bumbleberry

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To: reluctantwarrior
"Amhadidinejad wants to provoke the apocalypse."

Exactly! ! !
Its our worst nightmare.
Suicide Bomber on Global scale! ! ! !

41 posted on 01/16/2006 11:14:10 AM PST by DeaconRed (IF . . . . . . . . . . . . . .)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

<< I tend to be cryptic but thats what I was talking about. >>

I tend to verbosity and prolixity - and on both counts figgered you were.


42 posted on 01/16/2006 12:27:01 PM PST by Brian Allen (How arrogant are we to believe our career political-power-lusting lumpen somehow superior to theirs?)
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To: B.Bumbleberry

Interesting article. Thank you.

May God give our leaders wisdom.


43 posted on 01/16/2006 12:40:44 PM PST by djreece ("... Until He leads justice to victory." Matt. 12:20c)
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To: 0siris

I agree. Iran is the root of the trunk. It's where this started.

and where it must end.


44 posted on 01/16/2006 12:42:05 PM PST by CGVet58 (God has granted us Liberty, and we owe Him Courage in return)
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To: B.Bumbleberry

Here's hoping Iran's leaders catch a good case of Bird Flu.


45 posted on 01/16/2006 12:46:15 PM PST by PsyOp (The commonwealth is theirs who hold the arms.... - Aristotle.)
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To: Joe Brower

Also potential BS.


46 posted on 01/16/2006 12:49:58 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (© 2006, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: PsyOp

The author is assuming Israel using the “Sampson Option”. A truly frightening scenario, which by some Israeli defense experts would effectively reduce Islam to number 4 in world population behind Christianity, Hinduism and Buddhism with the complete and utter destruction of Iran, the Arabian peninsula, Indonesia, Turkey, Lebanon, Syria, Pakistan Jordan, etc. At least 100-300 million casualties in the first day. The Masada defense of Israel. This would make most if not all of Southern Europe, North Africa and the Arabian peninsula uninhabitable for hundreds of years. And as far as oil, how about 500 dollars a barrel.


47 posted on 01/16/2006 1:02:58 PM PST by lwg8tr
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To: B.Bumbleberry
Not only is it frightening, but if things go the way they are over there, it is almost inevitable. This in turn will lead to nuclear exchanges the world over--beyond Israel and Iran. Pakistan would fire any nukes it has, prompting India to respond. China and North Korea might realize there's something to be made in supplying countries of their choosing with some nukes and firing themselves. Some of the Caucasus states in the former USSR have nukes and would fire it at Iran and possibly Israel. Russia might get involved and fire at the Middle East. The US might retaliate with nukes after scores of thousands of US troops die around the world as a result of mass nuking.

The US might survive at a visibly-unscathed level initially, but if oil and natural resources are at a sharp premium, the economy will tank and a partial collapse might occur. This is, of course, assuming other Nukes don't touch us...

End result: Einstein's quote about World War IV being fought with sticks and stones might come true after all.

Of course, the key word being here is obviously might...

Israel should also realize that if they Samson defense the region, they're likely going to toast themselves out of existence. Simply put, while it's effective, it's also a suicide move.

After all, one good nuke usually just doesn't deserve, it begets another.

And it also appears both sides aren't interested in MAD, but in NUTS.

We've been in a defacto war with Iran since the Iran Hostage crisis. It's more than just the first precursor of 9/11, it led to exactly how this seemingly cold war manifests itself and is becoming hotter as time progresses.

Diplomacy won't work either. Iran is metaphorically stuck in the 11th century. The leadership in Iran is composed of hard-line Islamic clerics that only understand that they want their brand of Islam to dominate the world, and thus aren't likely to know what the heck diplomatic relations (at least from a Western standpoint) are.

I say, we really should go in with several hundred thousand troops and take Iran, Syria, and heck, even Kim Jong Mentally-Ill out while we're at it--down to the point where everything is defused, right down to the last candle.

t's becoming not just clearer, but more obvious, that the Axis of Evil is manifesting itself as a dangerous threat to international security and needs to be swiftly dealt with.

48 posted on 01/16/2006 1:28:50 PM PST by rzeznikj at stout (This is a darkroom. Keep the door closed or you'll let all the dark out...)
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To: rzeznikj at stout

I've heard that whenever a limited nuclear war in the Middle East is war-gamed, it evolves into a general worldwide nuclear exchange rather quickly.

Jack


49 posted on 01/16/2006 2:04:49 PM PST by JackOfVA
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To: MajorityOfOne

Here's another hot tip:

Iran lacks intercontinental capability (for now).


50 posted on 01/16/2006 3:59:35 PM PST by AlaninSA (It's one nation under God -- brought to you by the Knights of Columbus)
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To: Cyber Liberty
Time will tell.
51 posted on 01/16/2006 5:24:54 PM PST by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism. *NRA*)
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To: lwg8tr
The author is assuming Israel using the “Sampson Option”.

Short of first being attacked with a nuclear weapon, I doubt any of Isreals current leaders have the guts to do anything against Iran. Same with us. Therefor, I'm hoping mother nature can save us all the trouble and depopulate large portions of asia and the middle east for us. A Bird Flu pandemic would do the trick.

52 posted on 01/17/2006 12:44:06 PM PST by PsyOp (The commonwealth is theirs who hold the arms.... - Aristotle.)
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