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The origins of the Great War of 2007 - and how it could have been prevented
Daily Telegraph ^ | January 15, 2005 | Niall Ferguson

Posted on 01/16/2006 9:28:48 AM PST by B.Bumbleberry

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1 posted on 01/16/2006 9:28:51 AM PST by B.Bumbleberry
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To: B.Bumbleberry

Scary and plauseable.


2 posted on 01/16/2006 9:31:12 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Misuse of the Commerce Clause is the root of all Congressional evil)
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To: B.Bumbleberry

The war started years ago, when things were set in motion that could not be stopped. It will go hot relatively soon and will involve pretty much the entire planet.

The only question is who, if anyone, will stand with us?


3 posted on 01/16/2006 9:32:01 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: MNJohnnie

Serious food for thought. It's troubling that more and more of the world's oil supplies are coming under the control of nut cases.


4 posted on 01/16/2006 9:32:14 AM PST by B.Bumbleberry
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To: Jeff Head
Potential prophecy ping.
5 posted on 01/16/2006 9:32:53 AM PST by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism. *NRA*)
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To: B.Bumbleberry
"... The devastating nuclear exchange of August 2007 represented not only the failure of diplomacy, it marked the end of the oil age. Some even said it marked the twilight of the West. Certainly, that was one way of interpreting the subsequent spread of the conflict as Iraq's Shi'ite population overran the remaining American bases in their country and the Chinese threatened to intervene on the side of Teheran."

Er, did the author mean the 'Teheran' that just a paragraph earlier he claimed the Israelis turned into a glowing crater lined with smoked glass?

Hot tip to budding Apocalyptic fiction spinners: After a nuclear exchange, there's not going to be anyone in the receiving government to negotiate with.

Perhaps the revised ending ought to be 'The West and China agreed to divide up the oil supplies of the former Arab states'.

6 posted on 01/16/2006 9:38:30 AM PST by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi!)
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To: B.Bumbleberry

Serious food for thought. It's troubling that more and more of the world's oil supplies are coming under the control of nut cases.



Like the enviroweenies here in the USA


7 posted on 01/16/2006 9:39:23 AM PST by al baby (Father of the Beeber)
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To: B.Bumbleberry

NPR had a China expert on last week who predicted the chaos that will result with China's unstoppable consumption of the world's resources. We're doomed.


8 posted on 01/16/2006 9:40:59 AM PST by hershey
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To: B.Bumbleberry

bookmark


9 posted on 01/16/2006 9:41:09 AM PST by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

Agree totally. The third World War started on 9/11. Its only a matter of time before the rest of the world has to acknowledge it. I think the Iran/nuclear issue is what will be the trigger to really get the pot boiling.


10 posted on 01/16/2006 9:41:21 AM PST by ChinaThreat (s)
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To: B.Bumbleberry

If Iran sent a single nuclear missle into Israel, Iran would no longer exist to be "supported" by China. Once you use nuclear weapons, the war doesn't last long enough for anybody to saber-rattle.


11 posted on 01/16/2006 9:43:10 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: B.Bumbleberry
It's troubling that more and more of the world's oil supplies are coming under the control of nut cases.

You hit the nail on the head.

Perhaps environmental wackos and their slaves in the Democrat Party might heed your fears?

12 posted on 01/16/2006 9:44:01 AM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (expell the fat arrogant carcasses of Congress)
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To: ChinaThreat

Started before that.

However, that was the first sign of things to come for many.
The first wave, the Islamists, have been pecking for years.

The third wave, China, has been jockeying for position and has done quite well, as a poster of your screen name must be aware. They have patience and time is on their side.

The second wave is moving northward now, despite the utter denial of those who lead us.


13 posted on 01/16/2006 9:46:58 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: B.Bumbleberry

BTW, I really like Neils Fergeson as a speaker. I heard him a couple of times on C-Span. I tried to read his book "Empire", and while it was full of great information and I would recommend it to anybody wanting a challenging discussion of British history, I wasn't able to finish the book because it took too long to read and understand.

I just think he underestimates the reaction to a nuclear attack. My belief is the United States would immediately destory Iran, if Pakistan and India didn't get their first, and if Israel didn't have the firepower to do it as part of the 1st-retaliation.

You have to act immediately, because if you wait a day or two people start questioning whether it really is OK to respond, or if there is any reason to do so. All nuclear powers know this, so they are programmed to act in a mindless fashion against anybody using a nuclear weapon.

This ensures that no country gets in their mind that they can launch a nuclear attack and count on the slow wheels of diplomacy to protect them.


14 posted on 01/16/2006 9:47:00 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: The KG9 Kid

China doesn't need Arab oil. They are going to take the Spratleys.


15 posted on 01/16/2006 9:47:22 AM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: massgopguy
That's been the thinking anyway, at least from Tom Clancy.
16 posted on 01/16/2006 9:48:59 AM PST by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi!)
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To: The KG9 Kid

ping


17 posted on 01/16/2006 9:50:01 AM PST by vrwc0915 ("Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants,)
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To: B.Bumbleberry
On the one hand, the rest of the world's oil reserves were being rapidly exhausted.
Exhausted or "protected" by the enviro-whacko nut jobs?
18 posted on 01/16/2006 9:50:21 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
gave Islamic societies a youthful energy that contrasted markedly with the slothful senescence of Europe

...now that's a mouthful, and a pretty decent turn of a phrase!

And here's another nail on the head, and one in the coffin:
Condoleezza is right about diplomacy, as long as it contains the threat of nuking one holy city after another -- Qom, to scare the hell out of the Shia's, then Medina, leaving Mecca as a carrot to make the Muzzies of all stripes behave for another century or so. That's diplomacy that would work, as opposed to the typical appeasement that MOST idiots call diplomacy.

19 posted on 01/16/2006 9:51:28 AM PST by Migraine
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To: CharlesWayneCT

...This ensures that no country gets in their mind that they can launch a nuclear attack and count on the slow wheels of diplomacy to protect them....

That's why the first few will come from within.
Nobody's dumb enough to launch em. Not til near the end.


20 posted on 01/16/2006 9:55:46 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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