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Shots across the US/MEX border
The Economist ^ | Jan 12th 2006 | The Economist

Posted on 01/12/2006 1:41:30 PM PST by VU4G10

Plans for a border fence spark anger among Mexicans

COUNTRIES that claim to be the best of friends do not normally shoot across their mutual frontier. But on December 30th, an agent of the United States Border Patrol shot dead an 18-year-old Mexican as he tried to cross the border near San Diego. The patrol says the shooting was in self-defence, and that the dead man was a coyote, or people-smuggler. Vicente Fox, Mexico's president, made a diplomatic protest, and called for an investigation into the shooting. At the other end of the border, in Texas, Border Patrol agents were reportedly shot at from inside Mexico.

These incidents could hardly have come at a worse time. On December 16th, the United States House of Representatives passed by 239 to 182 votes a bill sponsored by James Sensenbrenner, a Republican from Wisconsin. This would make illegal immigration a felony, create a crime of employing or aiding undocumented migrants, and order “physical infrastructure enhancements” (ie, a fence) along more than a third of the 3,100 kilometre (2,000 mile) border.

The Sensenbrenner bill stands little chance of passing in the Senate. It is not backed by the Bush administration, which has campaigned for tougher enforcement to be combined with a guest-worker programme. This would help give legal status to some of the 10m or so migrants who are in the United States illegally (perhaps 60% of whom are Mexicans).

Nevertheless, the Sensenbrenner bill has caused outrage south of the border. Mr Fox called it shameful. He said migrants were “heroes”, who will in any event find ways to cross the border. Luis Derbez, his foreign minister, called the bill “stupid” and “underhand”.

On January 9th, seven Central American countries, together with Colombia and the Dominican Republic, agreed to work with Mexico to defend their emigrants to the United States. Most of these countries have free-trade agreements with America. They are its closest allies in Latin America, where many governments are less friendly than they were a decade ago.

All this is a far cry from the warmth between Mr Fox and George Bush when both took office. Mexico had high hopes of negotiating agreements on migration. Then came September 11th 2001, and Mexico's opposition at the UN Security Council to the war in Iraq. Some Mexicans say the hopes were always unrealistic. Others say that Mexico—and Mr Derbez in particular—must shoulder much of the blame for them being dashed. Mr Derbez threw out a plan for immigration reform drawn up by his predecessor, Jorge Castañeda, largely out of personal animosity. He is widely seen as an unimpressive minister.

Perhaps Mr Fox's biggest mistake has been his failure to lobby effectively over migration on Capitol Hill. Andrés Rozental, who heads the Mexican Council on Foreign Relations (and is Mr Castañeda's half-brother), notes that this contrasts with the effort made to secure passage of the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) in 1993, when Mexico used its network of over 40 consulates to lobby Congress. Another unused channel of influence is the one-in-12 people born in Mexico who now live in the United States (see chart). Most are there legally and many are eligible to vote.

Despite the public acrimony, Mr Rozental says that day-to-day co-operation between Mexico and the United States on matters such as public health, trade and law enforcement has never been greater. But he believes there is a minimal chance of significant progress on immigration reform under Mr Bush.

There is a broad political consensus that Mexico should push for a guest-worker programme and the regularisation of undocumented migrants in return for beefing up security on its side of the border. None of the candidates in a presidential election due in July is likely to use the issue as justification for anti-American rhetoric of the kind that has become common farther south. Mexico's ties to the United States are too important for that.

But migration will remain a running sore in relations between the two countries. Fences on urban stretches of the border in California and Texas have pushed migrants to the Arizona desert—but have not stopped them. Last year, some 400,000 crossed illegally, of whom over 90% had jobs in Mexico, according to estimates by the Pew Hispanic Centre, a think-tank in Washington, DC. But even unskilled jobs across the border pay much better. NAFTA was supposed to close that gap, but it has not done so yet.

More than 400 Mexicans died in 2005 trying to enter the United States (though in only two cases was the Border Patrol involved). That looms large in Mexican consciousness. Every Mexican knows someone who has crossed the border, if they haven't done so themselves. The harder and more dangerous it gets, the more Mexican public opinion may turn against the United States. The free movement of goods, but not of labour, across the border was always likely to cause problems.



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Mexico; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; borders; fence; illegal; immigrantlist; mexico; nationalsecurity; wall
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1 posted on 01/12/2006 1:41:32 PM PST by VU4G10
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To: VU4G10

"Fences on urban stretches of the border in California and Texas have pushed migrants to the Arizona desert"

IT WORKS! BUILD IT NOW!


2 posted on 01/12/2006 1:43:05 PM PST by VU4G10 (Have You Forgotten?)
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To: VU4G10

I saw on O'Reilly last night that it's looking like a move is finally underway to militarize the border. The governor of Arizona is pushing the Pentagon for National Guard troops along the south.


3 posted on 01/12/2006 1:44:04 PM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: VU4G10

I believe personally that the military would solve the problem. A fence or wall would be too costly and hard to build...considering that troops on the border would eliminate the problem with much less trouble.


4 posted on 01/12/2006 1:45:17 PM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: pcottraux

"He said migrants were “heroes”, who will in any event find ways to cross the border. "

Thats what passes for a hero in Mexico? A criminal. Jesus Cristo.


5 posted on 01/12/2006 1:45:54 PM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: VU4G10
Nevertheless, the Sensenbrenner bill has caused outrage south of the border. Mr Fox called it shameful. He said migrants were “heroes”, who will in any event find ways to cross the border. Luis Derbez, his foreign minister, called the bill “stupid” and “underhand”.

If they don't believe in the rule of law, why should we care what they think?

Maybe it's time to liberate Mexico from a corrupt regime. Did anyone see any WMD's down there???

6 posted on 01/12/2006 1:47:00 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: VU4G10
I would have sympathy for the Mexican government if not for the fact that 10% of their population has left due to the fact that Mexico is a corrupt, third world, alter worshiping, uneducated, economically stratified s**thole.
7 posted on 01/12/2006 1:47:33 PM PST by oldleft
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To: SmoothTalker

Well of course he says that. Mexican immigrants sending money back to relatives is the only economy Mexico has. There's no money or industry at all otherwise.


8 posted on 01/12/2006 1:47:53 PM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: VU4G10

Put the National Guard on the border with orders to seal it. It could be a matter of national survival.


9 posted on 01/12/2006 1:48:16 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Former SAC Trained Killer)
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To: VU4G10; HiJinx; gubamyster
Time for a quick primer on the actual current state of the physical border.

This is what most of our southern border looks like: there is no government-built fence at all. There is often just whatever is left over from some forgotten cattle fence, built privately to keep U.S. cattle from wandering freely into Mexico. For hundreds of miles there is not even a broken cattle fence, there is nothing at all.

For comparison, below the broken cattle fence photo is a sample of an inexpensive but highly effective double border fence system, with a plowed strip to reveal footprints. This type of system is very cheap and can be built with great speed.

Here is what some of San Diego County has: a wall made of rusty Viet Nam-era runway mats. The corrugations are even horizontal, (to make climbing easier?) The illegals in this photo were spotted by unexpected civilian volunteers, and jumped back over the border.

Here is what the border looks like where the runway mat wall exists. Mexico begins on the other side of the ineffective rusty wall, which actually helps the smugglers, by hiding their movements until the occasional USBP vehicle has driven out of sight.

This is how "the game" is played. Smugglers hide on the other side of the wall with their dope and/or their illegals, out of sight of the USBP. They wait for the highly visible white BP vehicle to drive over the distant hills. Lookouts with cell phones and walkie-talkies report on the current locations of the BP units. They know with certainty that "the coast is clear" for an hour or two, and the smugglers and illegals hop the fence and run into the scrub only 50 yards away. From there, they are out of sight, and they walk 1-2 miles to holding houses. Then they wait for nightfall, and are picked up and driven in vans to LA or San Diego.

Lastly, below is the Duncan Hunter 15' fence, which is already being built along a few "showplace" miles of San Diego, mainly near the ports of entry, where panderng politicians can conveniently show it off to gullible reporters. The House has approved building 700 miles of it, which would be a great start. As you can see, the rusty runway wall is seen at the left side, Mexico begins on the other side. In areas with the 15 foot fence, dope smugglers and illegals will have to cross the open sand ("the government road" as it is called) before starting to try to get over the 15 foot fence. It's extremely tough, and resists cutting. Attacking the fence would have to be done right out in the open, in full view of cameras. This type of fence, on the U.S. side of the government road, will give the USBP a barrier to patrol, instead of forcing them to chase illegals around 100,000 square miles of wide-open frontier land, which is a fool's errand.


10 posted on 01/12/2006 1:48:17 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: VU4G10

Politicians will accept the Guard or more enforcement on the border, because they know those can be easily removed later when the heat is off. We need twin 15 foot high fences exactly like the kind Israel has now. It works there, and it will work here NOW.


11 posted on 01/12/2006 1:51:35 PM PST by GarySpFc (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Travis McGee
This is what I've seen along the border where the I-5 crossing is. Looks good, but it inexplicably ends at "smugglers gultch" about half a mile or so from the beach.


12 posted on 01/12/2006 1:54:10 PM PST by oldleft
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To: oldleft
I've heard about these concrete pilings, which reportedly are 8 inches apart? Can a person squeeze between them?
13 posted on 01/12/2006 1:55:34 PM PST by GarySpFc (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: GarySpFc
I don't think you could even squeeze a baby through. And judging by the "migrant workers" I see around California they could be 3 feet apart and they could get through.
14 posted on 01/12/2006 1:58:07 PM PST by oldleft
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To: VU4G10

I vote for the National Guard on the border instead of a fence.


15 posted on 01/12/2006 1:58:48 PM PST by yoe
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To: GarySpFc

It'll work even better here, because we (generally) don't have Kassim rockets to worry about.


16 posted on 01/12/2006 1:59:02 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: pcottraux

Actually what I read was that the governor of Arizona wants to put National Guard troops at border crossings to "relieve" border patrol officers for other duties. It isn't going to help until the border is militarized and/or properly fenced. She is asking for 100 million bucks to hand out, instead of using it to stop the problem at the source. Napolitano has found a cash cow, and will milk it for everything it's worth.


17 posted on 01/12/2006 1:59:23 PM PST by cabojoe
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To: yoe

"I vote for the National Guard on the border instead of a fence.
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How many troops would it take to secure a border that long?


18 posted on 01/12/2006 1:59:56 PM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: VU4G10

Lwas are just words and will NOT stop mexican criminals from coming across the border.


19 posted on 01/12/2006 2:00:04 PM PST by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: VU4G10

Shucks....I thought you were asking for AMMO donations.....


20 posted on 01/12/2006 2:05:43 PM PST by litehaus
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