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To: VU4G10

I believe personally that the military would solve the problem. A fence or wall would be too costly and hard to build...considering that troops on the border would eliminate the problem with much less trouble.


4 posted on 01/12/2006 1:45:17 PM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: pcottraux

Throw the military there and pay the Mexicans to build the wall at 10 cents an hour while supervised.


22 posted on 01/12/2006 2:11:47 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: pcottraux

Man, I wish you guys would get off of this "cost prohibitive" crazyness. Just what is border (really NATIONAL) security really worth? Build a fence or wall AND patrol it effectively is the answer. Do both. With a well designed barrier coupled with sufficient Border Patrol (the barrier would reduce some of the need for BP numbers) and good patrol discipline you would be amazed at what effect it would have.

I'm from that country (border country--Texas), we USED to enforce immigration laws but when you allow illegal aliens to flood in and turn one's head, what do we expect?


Congress LOSES more $$ than a good security barrier would cost.


37 posted on 01/12/2006 3:03:35 PM PST by brushcop (We lift up our military serving in harm's way and pray for total victory and a safe return.)
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To: pcottraux

"I believe personally that the military would solve the problem. A fence or wall would be too costly and hard to build..."

I agree. Plus, the fence would be a worldwide embarassment. Imagine V. Fox saying: "Mr. Bush, tear down this wall."


49 posted on 01/12/2006 3:30:56 PM PST by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: pcottraux
considering that troops on the border would eliminate the problem with much less trouble.

Si, senor...100 years ago.

2009 Border ROE Per President Hitlery:

1.No ammunition shall be issued, except upon confirmed hostile border crossing by armed regular troops of a foreign military force;

2. No member of US military forces may detain, apprehend, arrest, harass, or inter fer with the free movement of any suspected illegal border crosser(s) before notification and arrival of an accredited ACLU attorney to oversee and record such action, and to advise said crosser(s) of their rights;

3. Prior to arrival of such attorney, military personnel will take whatever action is necessary to prevent engagement, consistent with #2 above...

73 posted on 01/12/2006 5:45:39 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Mad-Mo! Allah bin Satan commands ye: Bow to him 5 times/day: Head down, @ss-up, and fart at Heaven!)
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To: pcottraux
I believe personally that the military would solve the problem. A fence or wall would be too costly and hard to build...considering that troops on the border would eliminate the problem with much less trouble.

I respectfully disagree...we have spent over a TRILLION dollars to 'liberate' the mohammedans in Iraq. We can spend a few billion dollars securing our border.

75 posted on 01/12/2006 8:03:35 PM PST by houeto (Mr. President, close our borders now!)
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To: pcottraux

There are so many sections of the border that are extremely remote and rough terrain that the military could not stop illegal immigration without a fence. It would take too much manpower, and the most they could hope for is to slow it down. It is hard to understand the situation without seeing first hand the problem areas.

Any plan that has a chance of succeeding will have to start with a major barrier/fence. If a proper fence were in place; then the border could be properly protected with a reasonable amount of manpower.

In the area I live this point was essentially proven in October when the Minutemen were here patrolling. When the Minutemen arrived, LE was expecting issues so they added more Border Patrol, put the sheriff's Dept and the State Police on OT and transferred more LE from other locations. With all the LE and the Minutemen, there were many times the normal amount of bodies to find illegals. About two weeks later the military sent in around 300 troops to do training/backup with the Border Patrol. The last two weeks of October there was more manpower than could possibly be maintained long term. Yet illegals still managed to get through. Protecting the border as it is now is pretty much impossible, you would literally need men standing side by side. With a serious barrier in place, I believe it would be possible to stop illegal entry, without one I think any other plan is doomed to fail.


76 posted on 01/12/2006 8:24:41 PM PST by Tammy8 (Build a Real Border Fence, and enforce Immigration Laws!!!)
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