Posted on 01/12/2006 12:12:48 PM PST by elkfersupper
10 years ago Elk Grove was a UPS/Fed-Ex hub and the local police would quickly deter most people from going for any other reason!
Thanks for the ping!
"I'm not a lawyer, and I don't play one on TV, but-
There are 'dry' counties and states that ban alcohol, why is this different?"
Because there are two amendments to the US Constitution dealing with alcohol, one prohibiting its manufacture and importation, and the second one striking that one down and explicitly leaving its regulation to the states.
So, the Constitution says, explicitly, that the states can prohibit alcohol, even though that's interfering with interstate commerce. The Constitution doesn't say that about tobacco. Now, a state's rights advocate could assert that therefore it's entirely up to the states, but a free-market, free-flow-of-commerce capitalist could argue that banning tobacco locally interferes with interstate commerce generally, and he would have a good argument under the commerce clause cases of the last 70 years or so.
Alcohol is different, because it's actually in the Constitution. No other product is.
How this one comes out depends on the judges deciding it.
"I am so very thankful you expressed that with words and not a picture. The mental image was enough to send me reeling, I shudder to think what would have happened if I had actually seen a picture instead!"
Just a word of advice: Do not, under any circumstances, visit any YMCA or Community Center, that offers workout or swim classes, during normal working hours. I tell you, it is hazardous. Enough said. [grin]
But But But But Blagojevich said that Tax increases on cigs were going to curb the smoking...that that that raising the taxes would be a deterrant to smokers........He never intended those revenues to be there at all because his real goal was to stem the tide of increasing numbers of smokers.....
< /Sarcasm >
Many towns ban alcohol sales. Why would they not get away with this?
"dry counties and states that ban alcohol"
I was wondering the same thing, but I don't see any difference, since any town with a stupid mayor who buys into any kind of prohiobition on sales like that will lose tax revenue in either case. And I'm not a lawyer, either- (but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night)...
I believe I read a while back where Illinois LEO was going after folks that purchased their smokes online and slamming them with HUGE back taxes...plus nominal fees for having to come collect it all now.
Warning dually noted and I thank you! LMAO
But this money does not go to the village. How would this be part of their consideration?
I sure hope they don't ban oleo-margarine, LOL! What will we in Wisconsin do if we can't get our black market oleo-margarine? ;)
Ciggies will never be banned. Tobaccy is the goose that lays the Golden Egg over and over and over again.
The end-goal is to make it scarce and expensive and taxed to the hilt.
Oh yes, that has already started.
Unfortunately the companies can not do that because of the Master Settlement Agreement, nor can the states ban the sale of cigarettes. Until at least 2023.
I believe that state budget is used for the state, and the village is apart of the state.
Mayor Craig Johnson needs a serious ass-whipping. I do not know why, but some people just need to be taken out behind the shed every once in a while.
States cannot afford to ban cigarette sales as they are a major source of tax revenue. They will just continue to up the tax to protect people from themselves and then wonder why tax revenue drops and the bootlegging of cigarettes increases. I'm sure organized crime will provide the citizens of Elk Grove all the cigarettes they want.
am so very thankful you expressed that with words and not a picture. The mental image was enough to send me reeling,
Excuse me.........but I wear over a size 8 and there are NO bulges on me..........please do not make such nasty generalizations.
And the anti-smokers who have pushed for all the bans in increased taxes. Let the budget shortfalls come out of their pockets for a change.
No insult intended. My point was to hyperbolize a comparison to this stupid law.
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