Posted on 01/12/2006 11:26:24 AM PST by Michael81Dus
Germany's new Chancellor Angela Merkel, due for a warm welcome in the Bush White House tomorrow, represents a new political phenomenon in her country. Her government embraces her conservative Christian Democrats (CDU) with their Bavarian allies in the Christian Social Union, and the Social Democrats, the first time such lineup in 37 years.
It is quite unlike its predecessor, the Red/Green coalition of 1998-2005, in which the ranks were filled with "sixty-eighters,"offspring of the 1968 anti-Vietnam War and anti-establishment student revolt, in whose new-leftist hearts dislike and distrust of America lingered.
Germany's relations with Washington have nearly always been better with CDU-run governments.
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I join you in this prayer. Personaly I think we're too "nice" to the monsters we have gathered up and kept at Gitmo. But, we have to pray also that our leaders know what they are doing and that FUTURE leaders will understand the danger these terrorists pose to the free world.
Okay, as a human being, you have a certain amount of sympathy, compassion, sensitivity. As an American and a proud veteran (for whose service I am deeply grateful), you have an abiding decency that acts as your moral compass.
Question: How much of that do you want to spend on caring about leftist spin and international opinion of the U.S., knowing that no matter how good and upright we are, how strict the SOP, we are going to be soundly criticized anyway?
We are already the purest. How much more pure can we be? And, as for palling around with Michael, remember this: A woman who even listens to the importunities of a deceitful suitor has already surrendered her virtue. Snakes are clever at disguises.
No concessions, ever.
Now, when the Taliban blow up a school in Minnesota - will you blow up a school in southern Afghanistan? Nah, terrorists aren´t following the law - that´s what makes them criminal. We, the West, follow the law, and that makes us better than them.
Wrong again. Our CIA is none of your business. You pretend to not notice that you're sticking your nose where it doesn't belong.
What will you do when September 11 hits your country?
Why should terrorists be tried before UN courts? There´s national jurisdiction for that.
Oh man, have you actually read what Merkel said??
You believe propoganda? What a shame.
Debunking Three Years of Media Lies: Part I
German citizens - and CIA activity within the sovereignty of the Federal Republic of Germany - are our business, no matter what you wish for. The case El-Masri is unquestionable a scandal. But then, Mr. El-Masri wasn´t that nice, too - he probably got money from the CIA after his release to be silent on his fate of the questionable 4 months. He took the money and talked about being kidnapped. As I said, not that nice.
What will we do when we´re attacked with hundreds if not thousands of deads? We´ll respond with all our might. But we´re not going to give up our basic rights. We´re already doing what we can with regard to counter-terroristic measures (tapping, intel activity, cooperation with foreign intel, screening suspects). I don´t think that there can be more done. Did you see much change after the London or Madrid bombings? We cannot and must not allow the terrorists to change our lives.
You have not answered me:
provided that such militias or volunteer corps, including such organized resistance movements, fulfil the following conditions:
(a) That of being commanded by a person responsible for his subordinates;
(b) That of having a fixed distinctive sign recognizable at a distance;
(c) That of carrying arms openly;
(d) That of conducting their operations in accordance with the laws and customs of war.
How can you claim that the Taliban fulfills these conditions?? Especially b, c and d???
You insulted the US military because you automatically assumed the reports of abuse and torture were true.
You don't even give the US the benefit of doubt.
Your country and the left has been busy defining torture down for the US and totally ignoring decapitations by the terrorists.
Stick a fork in him. Like most people from Old Europe, full of lectures and moralizing, completely unwilling to actually condem real evil or actually DO anything.
Until Germany offers to take these prisioner off our hands your concerns are meaninless. Action from Europe, not more sactimonious lectures, is what is needed. As the old American saying goes "Put your money where your mouth is Germany."
Fine. Then just sit there and wait to be attacked.
And bother us no more.
What´s the problem with trying them? Why can´t you send some judges to Gitmo and bring them before court? I mean, the judges should be able to tell whether the suspicions of the authorities (intel, mil) are well-reasoned or not.
It´s not that we don´t care about the victims. But why are you giving up one of the values you helped to spread?
Nations aren't, in my view, either moral or immoral, and "purity" is a term that applies to individuals, not to nations. Policy is not exempt from ethical standards but these aren't the same as for persons - Reinhold Niebuhr treated this subject in Moral Man And Immoral Society. Certainly one of those standards is that it acts against our nation's broad interests both to flout the law and to intern persons we consider innocent. I do not think that we are, in fact, flouting the law here. It may be, however, that our mechanisms for identifying those who are innocent there - we have found several in that status - need to be published and defended better. There is no use in giving our enemies propaganda points when we don't have to.
Europe has been so socialist for so long, they think that left is right.
What I find peculiar is that FR tolerates this trashtalk and some FReepers even defend it.
The dirt is that the US keep prisoners without trials, nothing else. I wished it ain´t so, because it harms your agenda.
(b) That of having a fixed distinctive sign recognizable at a distance;
By your own post. You have cited exactly what excludes their POW status.
Post me a picture of the Taliban uniform.
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