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We are worried about Hyundai: Toyota
HT.com ^ | Detroit, January 11, 2006 | Reuters

Posted on 01/11/2006 5:06:44 AM PST by CarrotAndStick

Toyota Motor Corp, one of the world's most successful automakers, claims to be afraid of a lot of things: complacency, competition, and success itself.

But in the United States, rival Hyundai Motor Co may well be at the top of Toyota's list.

"We're worried about them," Yukitoshi Funo, chairman of Toyota Motor Sales USA, told reporters in Detroit this week.

"Our main competitors here are essentially Honda Motor Co Ltd, Nissan Motor Co Ltd and Hyundai, but Hyundai is the one we are very carefully watching," he said on the sidelines of the North American International Auto Show in Detroit.

South Korea's top automaker, until recently a target of jokes about broken-down parts, has dramatically raised its profile on the world stage with a benchmark study by research firm JD Power showing an improvement in quality to match the best Japanese brands.

Hyundai now sells far more cars than Volkswagen AG, Mazda Motor Corp and Subaru in the US.

It expects sales to rise more than 10 per cent this year to over 500,000 units, in an overall market that it reckons will shrink.

In 2005, Hyundai's sales fell 7.7 per cent to 418,615 units, giving it a market share of 2.5 per cent.

"The quality story is resonating," Bob Cosmai, Chief Executive Officer of Hyundai Motor America, said at the Detroit show.

"We're broadening the depth of our product line, and it's a great value story. When I joined the company at the end of 1990 we sold 90,000 cars, so we're making our presence really known."

Unveiling the remodelled Santa Fe sport utility vehicle at the show, Cosmai said its popular model would be priced "thousands of dollars" below a comparably equipped Toyota Highlander with six airbags, electronic stability control and other advanced safety features.

As Cosmai admits, Hyundai's path to success has been modelled closely on Toyota's strategy of striving for top quality and competitive prices, and appealing to a broad range of customers with wide-ranging cars.

That's what worries Toyota most.

"Honda and Nissan are also formidable rivals, but they have a distinct business approach and profile from us," Toyota's Funo said. "Hyundai, meanwhile, is essentially doing what we're doing."

But Funo added that Toyota would not and could not compete with Hyundai on prices, and would instead focus on building its brand and value.

"Our costs aren't as low as Hyundai's. We don't want to compete on their terms," he said.

His Hyundai counterpart, meanwhile, seemed to be adopting Toyota's characteristic modesty when asked how the South Korean company stacked up.

"I'm not sure anyone's a big threat to Toyota right now," Cosmai said.

"They're a very successful company," he said, adding that Hyundai benchmarked much of its processes and design characteristics around Toyota. "We have a long way to go."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: auto; automakers; business; hyundai; india; toyota
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1 posted on 01/11/2006 5:06:46 AM PST by CarrotAndStick
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To: CarrotAndStick

Anybody that's driven or been a passenger in a recent vintage Hyundai will tell you they are building much, much better cars.


2 posted on 01/11/2006 5:10:12 AM PST by ElTianti
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To: CarrotAndStick
I was in a new, 26 miles on it, Hyundai the other day, drove it too. It was nice, I mean like, real nice. Rental car. Quiet, tight, good to great interior layout, same airstream bla body as everyone else. I hadn't been in one since the mid'80's. Then they were a little rough.
3 posted on 01/11/2006 5:12:01 AM PST by Leisler (HEY LEFTY! FREED TIBET YET?)
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To: ElTianti

absolutely. hyundai's turnaround has been remarkable...


4 posted on 01/11/2006 5:13:52 AM PST by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: Leisler
Hyundai is doing things right. They have low-cost, high-quality cars and are targetting the younger crowds. This is how Honda pretty much won me for life back in the 1980s. As a teenager I was able to afford a used Honda CRX and then a Honda Accord (later Honda Prelude and currently a Honda Accord EX Coupe).

I see a lot of teens and young 20-somethings driving the sporty and sexy Hyundai Tiburon. If only they'd make a convertible out of the Tiburon, I'd pick one up as a 2nd car. The current Toyota Celicas are ugly and Honda never has done a convertible well.

5 posted on 01/11/2006 5:16:31 AM PST by xrp (My current list of worshippers: MNJohnnie)
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To: xrp
Honda never has done a convertible well.

I guess you've never driven a Honda S2000.
6 posted on 01/11/2006 5:18:51 AM PST by ElTianti
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To: CarrotAndStick

About 8 or 9 years ago, I rode in a friend's Hyundai. It was a rattle-trap. The thing sounded and felt like it was going to shake itself apart, and it was only less than a year old. He had bought it after having had (and liked) a Saturn.

Last month, I rode in another friend's two year old Hyundai, and she loves it. It was really a very nice car.

I've owned Toyota Corollas for the last 16 years (I'm on my second), but when it comes time to buy another car (in about another 4 years), I'll give the Hyundai a serious look. Toyota has nearly priced the Corolla out of my budget.

Mark


7 posted on 01/11/2006 5:21:40 AM PST by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: CarrotAndStick
The Sonata is a good car... that could give the Camry a run for the money. While Hyundai is a Korean brand, the car is manufactured in the USA - in Alabama. The first Korean cars that made it to the States were jokes and had nothing that got people interested in buying but the Koreans listened to American consumers and kept improving the quality of their car manufacturing. Its really paid off for them.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

8 posted on 01/11/2006 5:23:25 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
The first Korean cars that made it to the States were jokes and had nothing that got people interested in buying but the Koreans listened to American consumers and kept improving the quality of their car manufacturing. Its really paid off for them.

Maybe Ford and GM can hire some Koreans to run the companies.

9 posted on 01/11/2006 5:36:07 AM PST by KarlInOhio (What is the most obscene gesture to a Democrat? An Iraqi voter showing him a stained finger.)
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To: ElTianti

I have a 1997 Elantra, now it's my husbands car since I drive the minivan. Wish they made a minivan! I love my Hyundai, and would buy another one in a minute. The car has 150,000 miles and keeps chugging along, quite nicely actually.


10 posted on 01/11/2006 5:38:02 AM PST by kiki04 ("If a little knowledge is dangerous, where is a man who has so much as to be out of danger?" - THH)
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To: CarrotAndStick

Here in So Cal the darn things are everywhere. I would imagine it is one of the hottest franchises for a dealer right now.


11 posted on 01/11/2006 5:41:01 AM PST by SBprone
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To: CarrotAndStick
After decades of driving exclusively American cars this past year my wife and I bought our first foreign car, a Hyundai Santa Fe. Given the fit, finish, value, attention to detail and not to mention a 100,000 mile warranty, I seriously doubt I will buy another American car. US car makers and yes even the Japanese have a lot to fear.
12 posted on 01/11/2006 5:52:29 AM PST by The Great RJ ("Mir wölle bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: CarrotAndStick

Toyota should be worried about Hyundai. I don't buy for a second that Hyundai has completely matched Toyota yet on quality, but they've dramatically improved. Toyota itself is starting to act much like the Big 3 did back in the 70s, when they thought they were invincible. That can come back to bite them if they aren't careful.

In their recent comparison of family sedans, Car and Driver rated the Camry dead last out of the four competitors - First went to the Accord, second went to the Ford Fusion, and third went to the new Sonata.

And the Camry's not invincible, so they'd better not get the feeling it is. Just from my personal experience, in the past two years, my 1998 Camry has cost nearly $1800 in maintenance and repairs to keep running (thank you Toyota for defective strut mounts that you claim aren't a widespread problem (BS)).... by comparison, my 1997 Taurus has cost only $230 to maintain, all but $50 of that being routine maintenance.

The whole point is that the auto business is one that if you rest on your laurels even the slightest bit, you'll get eaten alive. The big 3 have done that twice now, and they're suffering. That doesn't mean they don't make some good high quality vehicles (and some stinkers). There are quite a few models they make that are very high quality... But if Toyota doesn't shape up, Hyundai will pass them by, then Toyota will be looking for ways to pay for its aging and retired workforce while fighting a leaner competitor without those costs, just like the big 3 are doing now....


13 posted on 01/11/2006 5:58:46 AM PST by eraser2005
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To: CarrotAndStick

yeah they are going to love chinese cars in few years


14 posted on 01/11/2006 5:59:59 AM PST by Flavius (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: ElTianti
It's worth noting that Toyota's success isn't just built on the quality of their vehicles, but also on a number of things that the public doesn't see.

For example . . . Toyota generally operates the most efficient auto terminals at various ports around the world. Toyota vehicles spend less time on their terminal lots than any other vehicle, which means their shipping costs for import/export vehicles are lower because they can run more vehicles through a terminal on a per-acre basis than any other company.

As of a couple of years ago, Hyundai auto terminals were actually among the least efficient of any manufacturer. In order for Hyundai to truly compete with Toyota they are going to have to improve in ALL areas of their business, and not just the quality of their cars.

I'd also add this . . . I'm seeing some very small "subliminal" signs that Toyota is facing a looming decline in its reputation for quality. If I were a betting man, I'd say that five years from now, Toyota's reputation for quality and reliability is going to be noticeably less than it is now.

15 posted on 01/11/2006 6:02:20 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Said the night wind to the little lamb . . . "Do you see what I see?")
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To: Alberta's Child

they are living off the good reputation they created earlier maybe?

the large increase in volume of sales may hurt them in quality...itll be interesting to see if they can maintain that quality throughout.


16 posted on 01/11/2006 6:09:59 AM PST by wallcrawlr (Pray for the troops [all the troops here and abroad]: Success....and nothing less!!)
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To: CarrotAndStick
Rented a Hyundai SUV from Budget a couple of weeks ago while on a skiing vacation in Colorado. Great vehicle, well designed and handled well thru treacherous driving conditions in the mountains. Hadn't driven a Hyundai before, however, having done so, I would definitely give it serious consideration if I were buying a SUV.
17 posted on 01/11/2006 6:10:21 AM PST by BluH2o
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Hadn't driven a Hyundai before, however, having done so, I would definitely give it serious consideration if I were buying a SUV.

I bought my wife a Hyundai Tucson last year. Great road safety car (six air bags, full-time all-wheel drive, ABS and stability control), drives great, six-year warranty on everything, ten year on power/drivetrain. All for just over twenty grand. Nothing all that fancy, but a solid vehicle overall.

18 posted on 01/11/2006 6:13:42 AM PST by dirtboy (My new years resolution is to quit using taglines...)
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To: CarrotAndStick

Hyundai beat the bunch with their 10 year/100,000 mileea coverage.
Sorry about that. Fine built vehicles with a good warranty.


19 posted on 01/11/2006 6:20:41 AM PST by Khurkris ("Hell, I was there"...Elmer Keith.)
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To: CarrotAndStick
I have a Korean friend who told me that just two or three corporations (Hyundai is one, LG is another, I can't remember who else) grab a significant chunk of the best students from every graduating class of the Korean engineering schools. I got the impression that the success of these top corporations is a matter of national pride, so they're quite motivated to compete.
20 posted on 01/11/2006 6:20:55 AM PST by Constitutionalist Conservative (Eschew obfuscation, ya'll.)
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