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Intel Transition, MacBook Name, and Windows on Mac?
Mac Rumors ^ | 01/11/2006

Posted on 01/11/2006 4:08:06 AM PST by Panerai

As readers digest all the announcements from Apple at Macworld San Francisco, we've noted a few interesting tidbits:

- Steve Jobs announced that Apple's entire product line will be transitioned to Intel in 2006. This is earlier than previously announced at WWDC 2005. Jobs notes that over the coming months we will hear announcements as each product line is transitioned. All by the end of this calendar year.

- MacBook Pro naming. Steve Jobs: "It's a new name because we're kinda done with 'Power' and because we want 'Mac' in the name of our products." This would imply that the MacBook name may not only replace the PowerBook but the iBook as well. Also raises some questions about the continued use of the "PowerMac" name.

- Phil Schiller maintains that Apple will not prevent users from booting Windows on the new machines, though no first hand reports whether or not this is easily accomplishable.

“That’s fine with us. We don’t mind,” Schiller said. “If there are people who love our hardware but are forced to put up with a Windows world, then that’s OK.”


TOPICS: Technical
KEYWORDS: apple; intel; mac; macworld; osx; powemac
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To: Panerai
Phil Schiller maintains that Apple will not prevent users from booting Windows on the new machines, though no first hand reports whether or not this is easily accomplishable.

They won't prevent users from throwing them from the room of a tall building either. But why buy a great computer and then destroy it?

21 posted on 01/11/2006 1:28:27 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: 6SJ7
Attention to detail is what I like with Apple. A small, but very cool feature on the new MacBook is the magnetically connected power adaptor cord

No, attention to detail is the old Cube. When you put it to sleep, the LED on it would softly pulse (not blink). The LED on the sleeping Apple monitor pulsed too. Since the cable to the LCD monitor carried USB in addition to video, Apple used that to synchronize the pulses on the Cube and the monitor.

That is an insane level of attention to detail.

22 posted on 01/11/2006 1:32:21 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: N3WBI3
its only recently that MS has touched the majority of servers until now the back end of most business application has been running Linux.

Why must you lie so blatantly? Haven't you been called on it enough already?

23 posted on 01/11/2006 2:42:01 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: antiRepublicrat
No, attention to detail is the old Cube. When you put it to sleep, the LED on it would softly pulse (not blink). The LED on the sleeping Apple monitor pulsed too. Since the cable to the LCD monitor carried USB in addition to video, Apple used that to synchronize the pulses on the Cube and the monitor.

The new iMac has an ambient light sensor so the pulsing sleep light dims when the room is dark and brightens when room lights are on. Great if one has the computer in a dorm room so the sleep light is not illuminating the room like a lighthouse beacon.

24 posted on 01/11/2006 2:52:41 PM PST by 6SJ7
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To: 31M20RedDevil
By the way my mini shows more Ghz than was advertized.

Yeah, Apple boosted the speed without ballyhooing it... did it about two months ago.

25 posted on 01/11/2006 4:36:55 PM PST by Swordmaker (Beware of Geeks bearing GIFs.)
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To: Golden Eagle
If I remember correctly you were the one caught lying on this, oh Im sorry you 'mis read the article' which stated the North American and World Marketshares..
26 posted on 01/11/2006 7:42:10 PM PST by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: N3WBI3

Servers in the past were certainly not running Linux or Windows. Many were running flavors of Unix that predate Linux, old DEC and IBM O/S's, etc. If Mac and Linux computing is the extent of your experience and knowledge, you might be working for Geeks-on-Call.


28 posted on 01/12/2006 7:51:29 AM PST by usafsk ((Know what you're talking about before you dance the QWERTY waltz))
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To: RoadTest

Nice, detailed response. Sour grapes over what?


29 posted on 01/12/2006 7:52:09 AM PST by usafsk ((Know what you're talking about before you dance the QWERTY waltz))
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To: SlowBoat407

Posting something to tweak the Macheads is a big fuss. I wrote three lines and got six Macheads to respond, none with any depth or substance. It was worth the 60 seconds I put into writing the post.

As for checking my premises, well, all my doors are locked and windows are secure. What else should I be looking at.


30 posted on 01/12/2006 7:54:09 AM PST by usafsk ((Know what you're talking about before you dance the QWERTY waltz))
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To: pageonetoo

My wife is VT alum and holds an MS in CS. The VT project is a joke among supercomputing experts, lasted at the top for a few months and could be accomplished much more cheaply using other items. Apple's role in large scale computing is about what it is in enterprise computing, next to nil.

You didn't offer any substantive response. Now, tell me what is life about...


31 posted on 01/12/2006 7:56:29 AM PST by usafsk ((Know what you're talking about before you dance the QWERTY waltz))
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To: antiRepublicrat

Not getting your point. I understand that Unix predates Windows. The discussion was about Macs. What's the point of running Oracle on a Mac, or Sybase, or anything else. What's your point?


32 posted on 01/12/2006 7:58:07 AM PST by usafsk ((Know what you're talking about before you dance the QWERTY waltz))
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To: usafsk

I stopped trying to argue the facts a long time ago, since the real PC acolytes seem to have no interest in them anyway. The arguments on both sides have become purely emotional. We might as well be talking about football or our favorite movies.


33 posted on 01/12/2006 7:59:34 AM PST by SlowBoat407 (The best stuff happens just before the thread snaps.)
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To: usafsk
I was addressing this statement "Dull jobs like running enterprise applications for the entire world". In addressing that point I did not even mention Linux (I did point out in another post I can do things with Linux that cant be done with windows but even that did not say its a windows or Linux world).

Of course UNIX predated Linux and for that matter Windows! and it was itself predate by other things but that was not the point of the post I was responding to, the point was 'its all MS'.

If Mac and Linux computing is the extent of your experience and knowledge, you might be working for Geeks-on-Call.

And if you think that all of the enterprise applications in the entire world run on Windows you could probably use a little help from a Geeks-on-Call service!

BTW I am very familiar with the Windows product line and am certified as an MCSE and MCDBA.

34 posted on 01/12/2006 7:59:48 AM PST by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: usafsk
What's the point of running Oracle on a Mac

It will run faster

It will run more stable

It will not be subject to the registry creep that it is on the windows side

Its on a more secure platform

http://www.dba-oracle.com/oracle_tips_unix_oracle_compare.htm

35 posted on 01/12/2006 8:03:40 AM PST by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: usafsk
Not getting your point. I understand that Unix predates Windows. The discussion was about Macs.

Because Macs are UNIX, and therefore they have a long-standing lineage in the enterprise. As a brand Apple is only a fairly recent entry into the server market (I'm just going to forget OS 9 server), so they don't have a big marketshare yet.

What's the point of running Oracle on a Mac, or Sybase, or anything else.

It depends. With those specific examples, OS X is actually not too fast. But for serving in general, OS X does offer UNIX stability with easy adminstration, plus Apple's server hardware is quite good. They also only charge $500 for a 10-user license (W2K3 Server is $1K) and $1,000 for an unlimited user license (W2K3 Server is $3K+ for 25 users).

What's your point?

That Macs are fully enterprise-ready, both in the OS itself and the software available for it.

36 posted on 01/12/2006 8:36:42 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: SlowBoat407

37 posted on 01/12/2006 10:29:27 AM PST by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: Panerai

We're about to order a G5 quad, and am wondering if Apple will go to 2.7 or even 3.0 ghz in the next month or so...

Also, does anyone have experience with the Quadro 4500 card on the Mac? I understand it's drivers are poorly written so 3d apps can't take full advantage of them...

Ed


38 posted on 01/13/2006 5:23:14 PM PST by Sir_Ed
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To: Golden Eagle

Ha ha!

Pot, kettle.

If you told me the sky was blue, I'd walk to the window and check for myself.


39 posted on 01/16/2006 7:45:22 AM PST by FLAMING DEATH (And now, for something completely different: www.donaldlancow.com)
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