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NSA Whistleblower Alleges Illegal Spying
ABC News ^ | January 10, 2006 | BRIAN ROSS

Posted on 01/10/2006 4:22:59 PM PST by West Coast Conservative

Russell Tice, a longtime insider at the National Security Agency, is now a whistleblower the agency would like to keep quiet.

For 20 years, Tice worked in the shadows as he helped the United States spy on other people's conversations around the world.

"I specialized in what's called special access programs," Tice said of his job. "We called them 'black world' programs and operations."

But now, Tice tells ABC News that some of those secret "black world" operations run by the NSA were operated in ways that he believes violated the law. He is prepared to tell Congress all he knows about the alleged wrongdoing in these programs run by the Defense Department and the National Security Agency in the post-9/11 efforts to go after terrorists.

"The mentality was we need to get these guys, and we're going to do whatever it takes to get them," he said.

Tice says the technology exists to track and sort through every domestic and international phone call as they are switched through centers, such as one in New York, and to search for key words or phrases that a terrorist might use.

"If you picked the word 'jihad' out of a conversation," Tice said, "the technology exists that you focus in on that conversation, and you pull it out of the system for processing."

According to Tice, intelligence analysts use the information to develop graphs that resemble spiderwebs linking one suspect's phone number to hundreds or even thousands more.

President Bush has admitted that he gave orders that allowed the NSA to eavesdrop on a small number of Americans without the usual requisite warrants.

But Tice disagrees. He says the number of Americans subject to eavesdropping by the NSA could be in the millions if the full range of secret NSA programs is used.

"That would mean for most Americans that if they conducted, or you know, placed an overseas communication, more than likely they were sucked into that vacuum," Tice said.

The same day The New York Times broke the story of the NSA eavesdropping without warrants, Tice surfaced as a whistleblower in the agency. He told ABC News that he was a source for the Times' reporters. But Tice maintains that his conscience is clear.

"As far as I'm concerned, as long as I don't say anything that's classified, I'm not worried," he said. "We need to clean up the intelligence community. We've had abuses, and they need to be addressed."

The NSA revoked Tice's security clearance in May of last year based on what it called psychological concerns and later dismissed him. Tice calls that bunk and says that's the way the NSA deals with troublemakers and whistleblowers. Today the NSA said it had "no information to provide."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bush; homelandsecurity; law; leaks; newyorktimes; nsa; russelltice; september11; spying; terrorism; traitor; war; wiretaps
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1 posted on 01/10/2006 4:23:02 PM PST by West Coast Conservative
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To: West Coast Conservative

Isn't Tice the guy who is so mentally unstable that it's kind of frightening to even contemplate that he held a sensitive government position?


2 posted on 01/10/2006 4:25:59 PM PST by Peach
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To: West Coast Conservative

He should be arrested now for revealing classified information.


3 posted on 01/10/2006 4:26:19 PM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: West Coast Conservative

My God this is horrible, they actually have some tools to catch the murderous terrorists. Oh, they did until this guy started revealing all the details to ABC News.


4 posted on 01/10/2006 4:26:45 PM PST by Williams
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To: West Coast Conservative

I thought international communications were fair game under the law??? Is it not strictly domestic communications that are protected by judicial due process?


5 posted on 01/10/2006 4:27:10 PM PST by cdrw (Freedom and responsibility are inseparable)
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To: West Coast Conservative
PRISON FOR THE VERY FAT LEAKER
6 posted on 01/10/2006 4:27:47 PM PST by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Is Death-by-Hanging applicable in this case?


7 posted on 01/10/2006 4:27:52 PM PST by Hoodat ( Silly Dems)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Employees with the NSA are exempt from "whistle-blowers" status.


8 posted on 01/10/2006 4:28:07 PM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
"As far as I'm concerned, as long as I don't say anything that's classified, I'm not worried," he said.

Um, wasn't what he said classified?

9 posted on 01/10/2006 4:28:25 PM PST by eyespysomething (This space intentionally left blank......oh crud)
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To: Wasanother
Employees with the NSA are exempt from "whistle-blowers" status.

Do you have a source for that?

10 posted on 01/10/2006 4:29:14 PM PST by eyespysomething (This space intentionally left blank......oh crud)
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To: West Coast Conservative

"The mentality here is do whatever it takes...."

I think that makes Bush sound real good to me.


11 posted on 01/10/2006 4:30:14 PM PST by newconhere
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VERY FAT TRAITOR

RUSSELL TICE
12 posted on 01/10/2006 4:30:50 PM PST by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Revealing intelligence collection methods is akin to treason to me.


13 posted on 01/10/2006 4:31:17 PM PST by RabidBartender
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LARD LEAKER

----RUSSELL TICE----
14 posted on 01/10/2006 4:32:46 PM PST by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Well, thanks for posting this, but Tice can't claim whistleblower status because he didn't go through channels and because he is already a former employee, who had been demoted and disgruntled. Tice is not the real source of the leak, either. He was just a convenient scapegoat, who probably even volunteered to take the heat off the real leaker(s).


15 posted on 01/10/2006 4:33:01 PM PST by Eva
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To: West Coast Conservative
The MSM spin word is Whistleblower.

They are going to keep using this word, because they now realize the Justice Dept has the authority to prosecute this criminal behavior (the unlawful release of TOP SECRET information). This applies to the individual(s) at NSA who violated the law, and to the reporters who refuse to cooperate with the investigation.

Everytime you hear the MSM use the term "Whistleblower", think CRIMINAL.


16 posted on 01/10/2006 4:33:35 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: West Coast Conservative

"We called them 'black world' programs and operations."

Mr. Tice must be feeling rather invinceable. Why, I can't quite fathom; he has cause to be very concerned about black ops himself, now that he's making a public spectacle.


17 posted on 01/10/2006 4:34:04 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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Seriously. If he's committing treason, yes. Unbelievable that the MSM is encouraging and facilitating something so dangerous to our national security....


18 posted on 01/10/2006 4:34:14 PM PST by Theo
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To: West Coast Conservative

Tice should be hung from the neck until dead as a traitor.


19 posted on 01/10/2006 4:34:19 PM PST by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: Eva
LARD LEAKER

----RUSSELL TICE----

20 posted on 01/10/2006 4:34:43 PM PST by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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