Posted on 01/08/2006 5:13:35 PM PST by Aussie Dasher
Even though the war on terror dominates the headlines, the culture war in America is almost as intense. On one side you have traditionalists, people who believe the country was well-founded, does mostly good things, and has become the most powerful nation on earth by adhering to Judeo-Christian principles like generosity, justice, and self-sacrifice.
On the other side of the culture war are the secular-progressives (S-P's) who believe that the USA is fundamentally a flawed country, which has caused considerable misery both within and outside our borders. The S-P's want drastic change and a new direction for America.
The two most intense issues in the culture war right now are how to deal with terrorism and what role spirituality should play in the public arena.
The S-P's want little or no public displays of God or religion. That's what drove the attacks on Christmas images and traditions; knock down the big Christian holiday, and the secularists achieve a big victory.
On the terror front, traditionalists largely want aggressive action to wipe out the "evildoers," and if lraq is the battlefield, then so be it.
Secular-progressives are appalled by the Iraq war and generally believe the USA has no right to act unilaterally to hunt down terrorists or their enablers.
So the stage was set for my recent appearance on the David Letterman show. I am a traditionalist; Mr. Letterman tends to mock traditionalists. And he often does it very well.
Our discussion began with the Christmas controversy. Dave did not see it as a big deal. When I pointed out the absurdity of a library in Memphis, Tennessee OK'ing a manger scene but then telling the woman donating it that she had to remove Jesus, Mary, Joseph and the three Wise Men, Dave said he did not believe the story. And, generally, that was the opinion of the liberal media: There was no Christmas controversy -- the whole thing was fabricated by religious zealots bent on establishing a theocracy.
Dave's skepticism must have come as a surprise to Memphis resident Brandi Chambless, the woman ordered to remove statues of the Holy Family and their visitors from the East. But, hey, the shepherds could stay, staring into an empty stable.
The subject quickly shifted to Iraq, a conflict both Letterman and I believe has been poorly managed. We also found common ground on the terrific performance of the U.S. military.
But then Cindy Sheehan came up. Uh-oh.
Dave, as well as many in the entertainment community, feels that Ms. Sheehan should not be criticized. He believes she is above reproach because her son, Casey, was killed in Iraq.
I do not see it that way, so sparks flew. My contention is that Ms. Sheehan is entitled to grieve and dissent in any way she wants, but her grief is being exploited by far-left elements.
And when Ms. Sheehan told Mark Knoller, a correspondent for CBS radio, that the terrorists in Iraq were "freedom fighters," she insulted thousands of other Americans who lost loved ones in Iraq.
Simply put, terrorists who blow up civilians, women and children are not freedom fighters in any sense. They are murderers, and I called Mr. Letterman on Sheehan's support of them.
I hope you saw the program. It was a rare display of the culture war on television. I told Dave I respected his views and he should respect mine. I enjoyed the joust.
By far more important, is the wake-up call many late-night viewers got. We in America are becoming a deeply divided country along cultural lines. The more we all understand what the issues are, the better. The culture war is real, and now, everybody watched Letterman that evening knows it.
That's why we must fight. It's OUR view they're trying to destroy...
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Exactly. There is no mystery about their motives at all.
That's something we will ALL be asking in a year!
There is absolutely no reason for him to have treated any guest that rudely. Only an imbicile says that someone's statements are "60% crap" AFTER having just admitted he knew nothing about the subject matter. What a classless dolt.
Nam Vet
Then the Letterman types will all become like Ron Silver.
They will get it.....maybe.
Well, that's just so accomodating for you N00b. The rest of us here will strive to fight for traditional marriage, the second amendment, religious freedom, school choice, freedom for parents to raise their children without goverment interference, etc. You go ahead and be tolerant. God forbid the wrong side loses.
Said clearly and concisely and correctly!!
After his heart surgery, he changed. A brush with death didn't make him see God I guess.
Populist O'Reilly was weak with Letterman. Never let an opponent in a debate get away with answering a question with a question.
If O'Reilly's not careful, he may just have to switch gears a tad and quit with the "I'm after everybody" and pop wise that he may have to kinda 'dial in' his sights.
That's because we're too afraid to be considered "fundamentalist" constitutional conservatives/traditionalists, because we might be marginalized or worse, ridiculed!!!
"After his heart surgery, he changed. A brush with death didn't make him see God I guess."
Did he ever marry them other of his child?
After the heart problems, he had a bout of shingles. I heard him state that the shingles were worse than his heart problem. (He had it in his eyes)
I haven't had any heart problems, so I can't speak about that but I have had shingles and can tell you that it can be hell on earth.
Well, there's a lot I'm unhappy about with President Bush and the Republican Congress, but we've accomplished much more than you say. (Taliban out of power; Saddam out of power; military reorganized and built up; Roberts and Alito on the Supreme Court; other conservative judicial appointments; some slight progress on education, social security, and immigration; etc.) It is important to keep pushing for more, and to push back hard when mistakes are made (e.g. Harriet Miers), but we conservatives are supposed to be optimistic and believe in the people and the power of the truth. Our best days are still ahead. Ronaldus Magnus said it. I believe it. Etc.
He's a very gawky, uncoordinated nerd who used to show up at The Raquet Center in Burbank in the early 80's at the same time I'd have my racketball workouts with pals. This was when he was somewhat known as a comedian, but pre-bigshothood.
PS - he liked to "look" in the showers.
Everything liberal is death and that depresses me. I know so many liberals. They love to destroy with a smile.
Yeah, they seem to love death and destruction. Very odd.
A fit description of modern "progressives".
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