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David Letterman Proves Culture War Is Real
Human Events Online ^ | 9 January 2006 | Bill O'Reilly

Posted on 01/08/2006 5:13:35 PM PST by Aussie Dasher

Even though the war on terror dominates the headlines, the culture war in America is almost as intense. On one side you have traditionalists, people who believe the country was well-founded, does mostly good things, and has become the most powerful nation on earth by adhering to Judeo-Christian principles like generosity, justice, and self-sacrifice.

On the other side of the culture war are the secular-progressives (S-P's) who believe that the USA is fundamentally a flawed country, which has caused considerable misery both within and outside our borders. The S-P's want drastic change and a new direction for America.

The two most intense issues in the culture war right now are how to deal with terrorism and what role spirituality should play in the public arena.

The S-P's want little or no public displays of God or religion. That's what drove the attacks on Christmas images and traditions; knock down the big Christian holiday, and the secularists achieve a big victory.

On the terror front, traditionalists largely want aggressive action to wipe out the "evildoers," and if lraq is the battlefield, then so be it.

Secular-progressives are appalled by the Iraq war and generally believe the USA has no right to act unilaterally to hunt down terrorists or their enablers.

So the stage was set for my recent appearance on the David Letterman show. I am a traditionalist; Mr. Letterman tends to mock traditionalists. And he often does it very well.

Our discussion began with the Christmas controversy. Dave did not see it as a big deal. When I pointed out the absurdity of a library in Memphis, Tennessee OK'ing a manger scene but then telling the woman donating it that she had to remove Jesus, Mary, Joseph and the three Wise Men, Dave said he did not believe the story. And, generally, that was the opinion of the liberal media: There was no Christmas controversy -- the whole thing was fabricated by religious zealots bent on establishing a theocracy.

Dave's skepticism must have come as a surprise to Memphis resident Brandi Chambless, the woman ordered to remove statues of the Holy Family and their visitors from the East. But, hey, the shepherds could stay, staring into an empty stable.

The subject quickly shifted to Iraq, a conflict both Letterman and I believe has been poorly managed. We also found common ground on the terrific performance of the U.S. military.

But then Cindy Sheehan came up. Uh-oh.

Dave, as well as many in the entertainment community, feels that Ms. Sheehan should not be criticized. He believes she is above reproach because her son, Casey, was killed in Iraq.

I do not see it that way, so sparks flew. My contention is that Ms. Sheehan is entitled to grieve and dissent in any way she wants, but her grief is being exploited by far-left elements.

And when Ms. Sheehan told Mark Knoller, a correspondent for CBS radio, that the terrorists in Iraq were "freedom fighters," she insulted thousands of other Americans who lost loved ones in Iraq.

Simply put, terrorists who blow up civilians, women and children are not freedom fighters in any sense. They are murderers, and I called Mr. Letterman on Sheehan's support of them.

I hope you saw the program. It was a rare display of the culture war on television. I told Dave I respected his views and he should respect mine. I enjoyed the joust.

By far more important, is the wake-up call many late-night viewers got. We in America are becoming a deeply divided country along cultural lines. The more we all understand what the issues are, the better. The culture war is real, and now, everybody watched Letterman that evening knows it.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: billoreilly; culturewar; davidletterman; leftyscum; letterman; oreillyidiot
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To: Aussie Dasher

That's why we must fight. It's OUR view they're trying to destroy...
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Exactly. There is no mystery about their motives at all.


21 posted on 01/08/2006 5:32:28 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: cyberdasher

That's something we will ALL be asking in a year!


22 posted on 01/08/2006 5:32:40 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: Aussie Dasher
I've always known that Letterman and his writers had the political knowledge and common sense of a bag of hammers. He can be very funny most of the time, but I probably won't be watching him much anymore. Every time I look at him I will see what a low class guy and ignorant guy he really is.

There is absolutely no reason for him to have treated any guest that rudely. Only an imbicile says that someone's statements are "60% crap" AFTER having just admitted he knew nothing about the subject matter. What a classless dolt.

Nam Vet

23 posted on 01/08/2006 5:34:06 PM PST by Nam Vet (The Democrat Party of America is perfectly P.C. * .(* P.C. = Patriotically Challenged)
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To: Aussie Dasher
Wait until the terrorists make a mistake and kidnap or kill a Hollywood elite.

Then the Letterman types will all become like Ron Silver.

They will get it.....maybe.

24 posted on 01/08/2006 5:34:27 PM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (expell the fat arrogant carcasses of Congress)
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To: ricardobaltazar

Well, that's just so accomodating for you N00b. The rest of us here will strive to fight for traditional marriage, the second amendment, religious freedom, school choice, freedom for parents to raise their children without goverment interference, etc. You go ahead and be tolerant. God forbid the wrong side loses.


25 posted on 01/08/2006 5:35:43 PM PST by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: wrathof59
The socialists want to destroy all viewpoints. If anything, the conservatives and traditionalists are too tolerant to a fault.

Said clearly and concisely and correctly!!

26 posted on 01/08/2006 5:36:18 PM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (expell the fat arrogant carcasses of Congress)
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To: Aussie Dasher; Chi-townChief
I wonder what went wrong [with Letterman...]

After his heart surgery, he changed. A brush with death didn't make him see God I guess.

27 posted on 01/08/2006 5:37:02 PM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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Populist O'Reilly was weak with Letterman. Never let an opponent in a debate get away with answering a question with a question.


28 posted on 01/08/2006 5:39:13 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: Aussie Dasher

If O'Reilly's not careful, he may just have to switch gears a tad and quit with the "I'm after everybody" and pop wise that he may have to kinda 'dial in' his sights.


29 posted on 01/08/2006 5:39:51 PM PST by ErnBatavia (I post in slang..live with it or ignore it - reader's choice.)
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN

That's because we're too afraid to be considered "fundamentalist" constitutional conservatives/traditionalists, because we might be marginalized or worse, ridiculed!!!


30 posted on 01/08/2006 5:40:02 PM PST by SierraWasp (EnvironMentalism... America's establishment of it's unconstitutional State Religion!!!)
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To: sam_paine

"After his heart surgery, he changed. A brush with death didn't make him see God I guess."

Did he ever marry them other of his child?


31 posted on 01/08/2006 5:40:15 PM PST by takbodan (.)
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To: sam_paine
After his heart surgery, he changed.

After the heart problems, he had a bout of shingles. I heard him state that the shingles were worse than his heart problem. (He had it in his eyes)

I haven't had any heart problems, so I can't speak about that but I have had shingles and can tell you that it can be hell on earth.

32 posted on 01/08/2006 5:40:49 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Zeroisanumber
...and all we've managed to do is pass a tax cut and play paddy-cake over social non-issues

Well, there's a lot I'm unhappy about with President Bush and the Republican Congress, but we've accomplished much more than you say. (Taliban out of power; Saddam out of power; military reorganized and built up; Roberts and Alito on the Supreme Court; other conservative judicial appointments; some slight progress on education, social security, and immigration; etc.) It is important to keep pushing for more, and to push back hard when mistakes are made (e.g. Harriet Miers), but we conservatives are supposed to be optimistic and believe in the people and the power of the truth. Our best days are still ahead. Ronaldus Magnus said it. I believe it. Etc.

33 posted on 01/08/2006 5:41:19 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: Aussie Dasher
Hmmm, conservative gun culture versus liberal faggot loving culture. I love a good roast.
34 posted on 01/08/2006 5:41:30 PM PST by Lancer_N3502A
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To: cyberdasher; Aussie Dasher
WTF is Dave Letterman? ;^)

He's a very gawky, uncoordinated nerd who used to show up at The Raquet Center in Burbank in the early 80's at the same time I'd have my racketball workouts with pals. This was when he was somewhat known as a comedian, but pre-bigshothood.

PS - he liked to "look" in the showers.

35 posted on 01/08/2006 5:43:41 PM PST by ErnBatavia (I post in slang..live with it or ignore it - reader's choice.)
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To: cyberdasher
WTF is Dave Letterman? ;^)

Good question. Letterman and O'Reilly (In case you haven't seen it makes a Dave Letterman seem like a stupid bull headed ignoramus. Audience members may need to bring copious amounts of rabid barking moonbat subtext with them to make a Dave Letterman funny.
36 posted on 01/08/2006 5:43:43 PM PST by Milhous (Sarcasm - the last refuge of an empty mind.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Everything liberal is death and that depresses me. I know so many liberals. They love to destroy with a smile.


37 posted on 01/08/2006 5:45:21 PM PST by Porterville (Keep your communism off my paycheck)
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To: Porterville

Yeah, they seem to love death and destruction. Very odd.


38 posted on 01/08/2006 5:47:57 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: Aussie Dasher
" wearing ill-fitting filthy clothes, unable to talk properly and using shouts and screams to communicate."

A fit description of modern "progressives".

39 posted on 01/08/2006 5:52:22 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: ricardobaltazar
You are so far out on a limb you are about to fall and break your neck.

We have 200 plus years of experience that a fundamentally Christian nation did not persecute, Jews, Catholics, Buddhists or atheists.

Freedom of speech was not trampled on, freedom of the press was not squashed.

Since the 70's and the liberal take over of college campuses, liberals have routinely trampled on the free speech rights of students.

Liberal papers routinely slant the news, present only one side of a story or increasingly fabricate news.

Historically Socialist Governments murder their citizens, Christians nations haven't done anything similar since the 18th century .

Historically whenever the left is in charge it is the rights of everyone else that suffer under them and not vice versa.
40 posted on 01/08/2006 5:53:03 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (Democrats value the privacy of terrorists higher than the lives of Americans.)
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