Posted on 01/07/2006 8:38:11 PM PST by lainie
On Friday, January 6, 2006, El Rushbo said the following:
Transcribed from rushlimbaugh.com "It's Open Line Friday… Clip: Does Anyone Remember Wen ho Lee?" Windows Media Player, paid subscription required
'Phil from Prescott, Arizona': "What I wanted to talk about: you were mentioning how Bill Clinton never seemed like he was interested in tackling huge national security issues, but I seen an example in the Wen ho Lee case where they actually railroaded Wen Ho Lee so they could at least LOOK like they were tackling national security issues..."
Limbaugh: You know, this is a fascinating case, and I don't think enough people A) know about it or B) remember it. Wen Ho Lee, Chinese descent, working out at Los Alamos, right? Los ALamos nuclear lab. Wen ho Lee was accused, by the Clinton administration, of stealing secrets and sending them back to China. During the whole period where the Clinton administration was involved in all this funny money coming in from China, and the 1996 presidential campaign, and the John Huang/Charlie Tree days, and all of this. There was NEVER...this man was kept in jail for, I don't know how many months, but, at one point, when they took him into federal court, a federal judge...now, he sent me his book. Wen ho Lee sent me his book, and it opens with this judge's apology. The judge, I forget his name, federal district judge, apologized to Wen ho Lee for everything the United States government had done to him: falsely accusing him, keeping him in jail; this is unprecedented. Sometimes charges are dismissed and they're thrown out, or what have you. The judge made it plain that he was apologizing on behalf of the United States government for what had happened to Wen ho Lee. And Phil's point here is, he's taking off on the opening monologue today which is, the Clinton administration, during 2000, had this CIA plan to try to leak phony information to the Iranians so that when they put their nuclear bomb together, it wouldn't work. Now, the point of this was that the Clinton administration knew in 2000 the Iranians were working on nuclear cweapons, and they didn't do anything about it. And they had this CIA plan that was so bad that it was doomed to fail, and it did. And his point is Clinton just wanted to look tough on this stuff, just wanted to look big on this, so we indict Wen ho Lee, when no evidence, keep him in jail, and, uh, you know, it was worse than what happened to Ray Donovan, he was, 'where do I go to get my reputation back?' And now he's filed a counter suit. I think the last I heard was he's filed some sort of a counter suit. But I won't forget what this judge said to him, as his book opens: apologizing profusely for the entire U.S. government for what he did. And of course, the mainstream press and all of Clinton's buddies hardly gave it scant attention, folks. This is the bunch that did the Waco invasion, Ruby Ridge, uh, one other example I'm leaving out, but, we talk about civil liberties today and how we're losing it."
Another interesting juxtaposition:
(reportedly) Ben Franklin (1755?) - "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Louis Freeh (1993) - "The American people must be willing to give up a degree of personal privacy in exchange for safety and security."
Slur. Not an argument.
You're preivous post was slur-like.
Give respect, get respect.
Simple.
Don't you think that it is important when we argue for something, that we get it right and have our ducks in a row?
Omission, commission, what's the difference, when the government commits murder? I mean, honestly.
I'm still shocked by people who think Bush-I was unaware. I don't mean you..I mean the, well, a good word for them would be 'bots.
You're had plenty of respect. You think his post is disrespectful?
Don't worry about your tribute and just go with the answers, ok?
If there is anything worth answering , I will do it in the morning.
Typos...and tired.
The poster accused me of using a slur. I responded by saying that I didn't initiate the slurs.
Based on that sequence, you think that it's logical to blame me for tribue worry.
LOL!
He is utterly amazing. He does make an occasional minor slip in a detail, but it is very rare, and his larger point is always correct. His memory is phenomenal, and is ability to come up with a profound and original analysis ON THE SPOT day in and day out is unrivaled.
He ad libs it all. There are no scripts.
It's tough to be human.
Wha-hoo, Rush!
Thanks, You're a keeper! I've never seen someone as keen to correct citing.
Back in 1992, I listened every day, sometimes even catching the show on a late-night repeat. To my knowledge, he never mentioned the FBI's deployment to Ruby Ridge. Rush was entertaining if nothing else. Plus, he was and is pro-military, pro-police to a fault. It wouldn't have mattered who was in charge of the ATF or the FBI, he backed them to the hilt. As did his audience, myself included. It was not until fall of 1993 that I learned there was another side to the Waco incident. Much later, on a local talk radio show, I learned what had happened to Randy Weaver and his family. (It's possible, though unlikely, that Rush Limbaugh still doesn't know what went on in Idaho in the fall of 1992. Quite a number of Republicans prefer to ignore it entirely and call you a kook if you bring it up.)
If Rush Limbaugh confused the timeline of events wrt Ruby Ridge and Waco, it's not surprising.
The natural tendency to place the blame or credit on the president plays well in political circles but falls short on getting to the bottom of the problem, which is an out-of-control bureaucracy.
It is almost certain that George H. W. Bush had no direct control over either episode, and neither did Bill Clinton until after February 28. Planning for Waco was going on well before Bush I handed over the keys to the Oval Office. "Operation Showtime" happened to get scheduled after Clinton's inauguration. It could just as well have been pulled off before January 20 if the preliminary training and reconnaissance of Mount Carmel had been completed earlier. It's doubtful that Slick or Hillary either one were even aware of the early-morning raid until after it happened.
The real disgrace is the way the Congress "investigated" the events leading up to Waco, with the Democrats bringing witnesses whose sole purpose was to demonize David Koresh and everyone associated with him while Republicans on the committee sat open-mouthed like a bunch of dummies. The whitewash of the government's malfeasance was so successful that nobody in the ATF was fired or demoted, let alone charged with a crime (although Higgins did resign, but it was time for him to go anyway). Although using the military for a law-enforcement project was a clear violation of posse comitatus, as was brought out in the hearings, what actions did Congress take to keep it from happening again? I don't recall any.
Maybe Drudge will pick up on this tonight. He's a lot more concerned about federal excesses than Rush these days.
FAMILIAR FACE EXCLUSIVE TO THE SPOTLIGHT September, 1999 By Mike Blair [snip] Adding to the controversy, it has been confirmed that Lon
Horiuchi was in charge of a sniper post where Texas Rangers recovered
spent .223 and .308 shell casings. Horiuchi was the FBI sniper
who fatally shot the wife of Randy Weaver, while wounding both Randy
Weaver and Kevin Harris, during the federal standoff at Ruby Ridge in
Idaho. The recovered shell casings are consistent with government-
issued sniper rifles. Horiuchi has denied that he or any members
of his "team" fired any shots at Waco.
Really? I figured there are far more anal people out there -- like the ones who earn a living doing it. But, yes it's a blessing and a curse: I can't stand sloppy quoting, it's true.
"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."
leads to my corollary:
"Hangovers are proof that we still live in a fallen world."
Cheers!
Nope. I suggested you not worry about the who-started-it and answer the dang question.
I love it!
And more: "Fresh picked strawberries are proof that God loves His children." - my husband, every spring
g'nite :)
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I think the judge felt compelled to apologize, in this particular case, because the case and the prosecution had been handled so poorly.
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