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Humans Do Not Understand Mirror Reflections, Say Researchers
Physorg ^ | 12-21-2005

Posted on 01/06/2006 3:07:02 PM PST by blam

Humans Do Not Understand Mirror Reflections, Say Researchers

General Science : December 21, 2005 Newsletter

Psychologists at the University of Liverpool have found that people still find it difficult to understand how mirrors work.

Dr Marco Bertamini, from the University’s School of Psychology, conducted a number of experiments by covering a mirror on a wall and inviting participants to walk along a line parallel to the mirror.

He asked them to guess the point at which they would be able to see their reflection. Results showed that people believe they can see themselves even before they are level with the near edge of the mirror.

Dr Bertamini said: “People tend not to understand that the location of the viewer matters in terms of what is visible in a mirror. A good example of this is what we call the Venus Effect, which relates to the many famous paintings of the goddess Venus, looking in a small mirror.

“If you were to look at these paintings, you would assume that Venus is admiring her own face, because you see her face in the mirror. Your viewpoint, however, is rather different from hers; if you can see her in the mirror then she would see you in the mirror.”

Participants were also asked to estimate the image size of their head as it appears on the surface of the mirror. They estimated that it would be a similar size to their physical head. However, participants based their answer on the image they saw inside the mirror rather than on the image on the surface of it. They failed to recognise that the image on the surface of the mirror is half the size of the observer because a mirror is always halfway between the observer and the image that appears inside the mirror.

Dr Bertamini added: “Mirrors make us see virtual objects that exist in a virtual world; they are windows onto this world. On the one hand we trust what we see, but on the other hand this is a world that we know has no physical existence. This is one of the reasons why throughout history people have been fascinated by mirrors.”

Source: the University of Liverpool


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To: Aquinasfan

We used to tape report between shifts when I worked in the hospital.

I sound like a Southern Minnie Mouse.

Makes me cringe.


101 posted on 01/06/2006 5:36:20 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (Democrats value the privacy of terrorists higher than the lives of Americans.)
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To: Owl558
I notice that every time a science thread comes up, someone bitches and moans that they hope their tax money didn't go to pay for the research. Evidently, those folks don't understand that every little bit of research, even if it's just a confirmation of "conventional wisdom," adds to the overall body of knowledge and makes further research possible, even if it's in fields that appear unrelated at first glance.

For instance, this research gives us a clue into the workings of the human brain, which put together with all the other research in the field, gives us a clearer picture on brain function, which could lead to treatments for various disorders.

102 posted on 01/06/2006 5:45:25 PM PST by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: HawaiianGecko
Yeah, he blew that completely. Stand a 12 inch ruler upright 1 inch from the mirror and the image is not 6 inches high.

No, he did not blow it completely. Yes, you, standing by the mirror will see an image of the ruler 12 inches high. That is not the point. We are talking about living things with eyes. If the ruler were alive and had eyes on the top end, it would truly see itself as a 6" image in the mirror. Try it yourself. Find a full length mirror. Walk up until your nose is touching it. Put a mark on the mirror at the top of your head and one by your feet. You will find the marks roughly half of your height apart. It is only approximate since your eyes are not at the very top of you. Most people can see all of themselves in a 3+ foot mirror. And it doesn't matter how close or far from the mirror. A full length mirror is a waste of money. Try this webpage for a good diagram and explanation: http://www.glenbrook.k12.il.us/gbssci/phys/Class/refln/u13l2d.html

103 posted on 01/06/2006 5:49:02 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Junior
bitches and moans that they hope their tax money didn't go to pay for the research

Yeah, they wouldn't have their computer and the internet to bitch on.

104 posted on 01/06/2006 5:50:35 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Right Wing Assault

http://www.glenbrook.k12.il.us/gbssci/phys/Class/refln/u13l2d.html

Sorry!


105 posted on 01/06/2006 5:51:56 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: freedumb2003

The math is wrong. Oh well, it was a good try.


106 posted on 01/06/2006 5:54:04 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (The plan was simple, like my brother-in-law Phil. But unlike Phil, this plan just might work.)
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To: Billthedrill
Ever notice that when you look in a mirror, right is left, but up isn't down? Why is that?

Fascinating question, one of physicist Richard Feynman's favorite brain teasers although I cannot presently remember his explanation.

107 posted on 01/06/2006 6:00:40 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: mcg1969

Stone breaks mirror... I win.


108 posted on 01/06/2006 6:02:16 PM PST by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: Junior
I notice that every time a science thread comes up, someone bitches and moans that they hope their tax money didn't go to pay for the research.

Some people just get sick of arrogant know-it-all "scientists" who haven't got the common sense God gave a goose but who are quick to tell everyone else to shut up and listen to their glorious wisdom and awesome intelligence.

No one likes to fund jerks.

109 posted on 01/06/2006 6:05:43 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: brooklin

Perhaps you are somewhat anemic and suffer from photophobia..


110 posted on 01/06/2006 6:05:45 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Billthedrill
Sometimes, good is bad and vice versa...


111 posted on 01/06/2006 6:06:32 PM PST by mikrofon ("Mirror, Mirror")
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To: blam

Me thinks it's just the Dims who don't understand.


112 posted on 01/06/2006 6:12:53 PM PST by right right
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To: brooklin
I can't seem to see myself in the mirror.

Examine your neck area for recent bite marks. Since your inabillity to use a mirror will make it impossible for you to examine the back of your neck yourself, you will require a young, innocent, nubile female, who screams well, to assist you.

113 posted on 01/06/2006 6:13:10 PM PST by TChad
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To: JCEccles
No, it is the "I know more then them pointy-headed geeks" who are arrogant. Researchers do not accept anything as being "without question." You cannot build science on "conventional wisdom" because conventional wisdom may be wrong. That's why research is done.

On the other hand, we have folks like you who seem to know more than the scientists without ever getting off your butt and actually doing any research to support your position. It's oh, so much more easy to sit on the side-lines and carp at those actually doing the work.

114 posted on 01/06/2006 6:14:07 PM PST by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: Junior
Atheist scientists are the new priesthood. They alone know the truth and the way to it. They excommunicate people who disagree with the "truth" and punish and shun people who ask dangerous questions. They control the books that are published and the strictly and gleefully censor ideas they do not like, that threaten their control.

They are coming to be detested. And for good reason.

115 posted on 01/06/2006 6:19:05 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: JCEccles
Listen to you. "Atheist scientists." Science is a methodology to determine the truth. It beats "revelation" in that others can confirm the results. Of course, those folks who have no grounding in science or feel intimidated by those who are more knowledgeable are inclined to dismiss the latter in an effort to make themselves feel better.

You make my case.

116 posted on 01/06/2006 6:26:34 PM PST by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: blam

Mirrors show ... nothing!

117 posted on 01/06/2006 6:31:28 PM PST by Gumlegs
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To: FierceDraka
And when you have a perfect distribution curve the median, mode and mean are the average!

PUN INTENDED!

118 posted on 01/06/2006 7:05:42 PM PST by Young Werther
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To: blam

Here's a fun experiment. Stand a comfortable arm's length from a mirror, close one eye, and with an erasable marker trace the image of your face. It will be sloppy, but it will look like you, and it will be exactly 1/2 actual size. Now, assuming the mirror is mounted vertically, back away from the mirror and you will see that your face continues to be overlayed by the tracing, no matter how far away you get!


119 posted on 01/06/2006 8:30:46 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: blam

 

Helen's still trying to figure out why mirrors shatter.



120 posted on 01/06/2006 8:35:39 PM PST by Fintan (Why do we drive on a parkway and park in a driveway?)
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