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DRUDGE--Gertz: NSA whistleblower asks to testify...
Drudge Report ^ | 1/4/06 | Drudge

Posted on 01/04/2006 9:05:52 PM PST by Sybeck1

Gertz: NSA whistleblower asks to testify; Vows to describe illegal intelligence operations... DEVELOPING...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: doj; dojprobe; drudge; gertz; homelandsecurity; nsa; rockefeller; russtice; spying; tice; traitortots
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To: Howlin
about illegal black ops programs at the NSA.

Don't you just love the propaganda art. Guess they just figure if they use the Nazi style propaganda tactic of screaming their lies over and over and over, it will stick. Sickening that OUR side is too stupid to point out the LIE.

201 posted on 01/05/2006 12:07:21 AM PST by MNJohnnie (We do not create terrorism by fighting the terrorists. We invite terrorism by ignoring them.--GWBush)
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To: dead
Not only is he a traitor, looks like he's going to go for the self-righteous grandstander defense."""

Good for him/her. Maybe we can get the illegal domestic spying stopped before Hillary or another Democrat has a chance to become president and use these powers (without judicial OK) to track political enemies. With a Dem in the White House, freepers might show a little more concern about unchecked government surveillance. As a traditional conservative, I believe in restraining government power, no matter who is in the White House.

202 posted on 01/05/2006 12:08:17 AM PST by churchillbuff
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To: BoBToMatoE

NY Times lexicon: If you don't like him, he's a leaker. If he's your favorite martyr, he's a whistleblower.


203 posted on 01/05/2006 12:08:32 AM PST by haroldeveryman
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To: the Real fifi
Amazing is it NOT. Everyone of Tice's claims are reported AS FACT. Amazing how our "objective journlists" just report his accusations as FACTS. What are they all going to do if Tice REALLY is a wack job?
204 posted on 01/05/2006 12:10:32 AM PST by MNJohnnie (We do not create terrorism by fighting the terrorists. We invite terrorism by ignoring them.--GWBush)
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To: Sybeck1

The following letter was sent by wrongfully terminated National Security Agency (NSA) analyst Russ Tice to Shays prior to the postponement of the hearing:

28 NOV 2005
The Honorable Christopher H. Shays,
Chairman, Subcommittee on National Security, Emerging Threats and
International Relations,
U.S. House of Representatives,
1126 Longworth Building,
Washington, D.C. 20515-0704
Dear Congressman Shays,

I am a former intelligence officer with the National Security Agency (NSA), where I was retaliated against for following regulations, and reporting my suspicions that a coworker was involved in espionage.

I have recently found out that the mother of the person I suspected was very-highly placed at posts in the Department of Defense (DoD) at the Defense Information Security Agency (DISA), as a Deputy Under-Secretary of Defense at the Pentagon for Intelligence, and the Principal Deputy Director of the Defense Security Service (DSS).

She was granted these posts and given our country's highest security clearances despite the fact that, as young women, she was a product of Communist China who came to the United States in 1960. Considering this, I believe the prospect of her daughter being involved in espionage is greatly enhanced.

The means of retaliation used against me by the security office at NSA was to have me declared psychotic in order to revoke my security clearance. This action was taken despite the fact that the very same office at NSA conducted my routine psychological evaluation only nine months prior and found me to be normal.

The DoD Inspector General, and the Merit System Protection Board have already sanctioned this outrageous act. As you know, the whistleblower laws both current and proposed do not protect me from such a vile act as this. Consequently, I believe I would be a perfect candidate to testify at your subcommittee hearing on national security whistleblowers and the abuse of security clearances.

I have been informed by POGO that my name was submitted to your office as a candidate to testify at this hearing, yet I have received no word from you. From what I understand, your hearing will include the bureaucratic entities that condone and foster the very misconduct that is in question.

I likewise have heard that the two whistleblowers to appear were not removed from their posts nor were their security clearances revoked in retaliation. Can you please explain to me why I was not contacted by your office about this upcoming hearing or why no intelligence officers will be testifying? At this date I am still very willing to testify at your hearing and I would think that the retaliation dealt to me by the National Security Agency (NSA) would be very pertinent to a hearing on national security whistleblowers.

As it currently stands, your proposed hearing does not represent me or the abuses perpetrated against U.S. intelligence officers. It also omits the only organization that is specifically dedicated to national security whistleblowers, the National Security WhistleBlower Coalition (NSWBC).

To the detriment of the security of our citizens, the Intelligence Community (IC) is using security clearance revocations as weapons of retaliation to silence officers as a means of covering up malfeasance, misconduct, and incompetence. In this letter I have intentionally included some specifics of my case to alert you to the gravity of the potential consequences that involve national security whistleblowers.

It is with this in mind that I implore you to forgo the 06 December hearing and reschedule it to include intelligence officers that have been victims of security clearance abuses and other NSWBC members who have recent and firsthand knowledge of what these abuses mean in terms of our nation's security. Anything other will be a travesty of justice and a serious breach of faith of the American people in terms of their safety and security that is entrusted into your hands.

Very Respectfully,
Russell D. Tice
Former Intelligence Analyst & Action Officer, National Security Agency
Member, NSWBC


205 posted on 01/05/2006 12:11:23 AM PST by idkfa
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To: churchillbuff

Gosh, I am ssoooooooooooooo surprised to see you on the wrong side of this issue.

Again.

Not.


206 posted on 01/05/2006 12:13:16 AM PST by Howlin (Defeatism may have its partisan uses, but it is not justified by the facts. - GWB, 12/18/05)
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To: idkfa
Considering this, I believe the prospect of her daughter being involved in espionage is greatly enhanced.

Wow, that's worthy of McCarthy.

207 posted on 01/05/2006 12:15:03 AM PST by Howlin (Defeatism may have its partisan uses, but it is not justified by the facts. - GWB, 12/18/05)
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To: the Real fifi
He is a member of a group forme din August 2004 called National Secuity Whistleblowers

NSWBC Networking Partners

Project on Government Oversight (POGO)

Open the Government Coalition

American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU)

Bill of Rights Defense Committee (BORDC)

Veteran Affairs Whistleblowers Coalition (VAWBC)

National Whistleblower Center

Liberty Coalition

NSWBC Members             (To view members bios click here.... )

Barlow, Richard M., Former Intelligence Officer, CIA, the Office of the Secretary of Defense (OSD) & the Arms Control and Disarmament Agency

Bergman, Bill, Former Senior Financial Market Analyst, Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago

Bigelow, Steve, Retired Air Force Lieutenant Colonel, Joint Chiefs of Staff, J-33

Bittler, Thomas, Training  Coordinator, TSA-DHS

Black, P. Jeffrey, Federal Air Marshal (FAMS), TSA/DHS

Carman, John, Former Senior Inspector, U.S. Customs

Carpenter, Shawn, Member of Technical Staff, Sandia National Laboratories

Chudson, Jonathan, Former Special Agents, IG-Office, EPA

Cleary, Kevin J., Senior Special Agent, U.S. Dept. of Homeland Security/ICE & U.S. Customs Service (O.I.)

Cole, John M., Former Veteran Intelligence Operations Specialist, FBI

Conrad, David “Mark”, Retired Agent in Charge, Internal Affairs, U.S. Customs

Connolly, Frank, Senior Screening Manager @ Buffalo, TSA

Copley, James, Project Manager, DOE

Costello, Edward J. Jr., Former Special Agent, Counterintelligence, FBI

Cruse, Larry, Army Intelligence Analyst, DOD

Davidson, Kathaleen, Nuclear Security Training Coordinator, Pilgrim Nuclear Power Station

Dzakovic, Bogdan, Former Red Team Leader, FAA

Edmonds, Sibel, Former Language Specialist, FBI

Ellsberg, Dan, Former Special Assistant to the Assistant Secretary of Defense (ISA), DOD

Elson, Steve, Veteran Agent, FAA

Forbes, David, Aviation, Logistics and Govt. Security Analysts

Gonzalez, Sandalio, Retired Federal Agent, DEA

Goodman, Melvin A., Former Senior Analyst/ Division Manager, CIA; Senior Fellow at the Center for International Policy

Guagliardi, Ray, training coordinator,  TSA-DHS

Hirsch, Daniel M., Foreign Service Officer,  Department of State

Hnatio, John, Former International Program Manager, DNN, NNSA & DOE

Jenkins, Steve, Intelligence Analyst, NGIC, US Army

Johnson, Larry, Deputy Director- Counterterrorism, Department of State; Analyst,CIA

 

 Kwiatkowski, Karen U., Lt. Col. USAF (ret.), Veteran Policy Analyst-DOD

Lau, Lok, Former Special Agent, Counterintelligence, FBI

Levine, Michael, Retired Supervisory Special Agent/Covert Operations Specialist, DEA

Lipsky, John, Supervisory Special Agent, FBI

Mansour, Joe, Occupational Safety Specialist,  Federal  Bureau of Prisons

MacMichael, David, Former Senior Estimates Officer, CIA

McGovern, Raymond L., Former Analyst, CIA

McInerney,  Cullen, Supervisory Special Agent, Joint Terrorism Task Force,   Federal Air Marshal Service

Nunn, Sandy, Former Special Agent, US Customs

Pahle, Theodore J., Senior Intelligence Officer (Ret), DIA

Price, Paul, Language Analyst, NSA

Russell, William H., Computer Specialist, R & E Division, NSA

Sarshar, Behrooz, Retired Language Specialist, FBI

Savich, William, Special Agent, Bureau of Diplomatic Security, Department of State

Shaffer, Anthony Allen, Lieutenant Colonel, Senior Operations Officer, DIA-DOD

Springmann, Mike, Foreign Service Officer-5; Second Secretary & Vice Consul, Department of State

Starns, Robert, Special Agent in Charge, Diplomatic Security Service, Department of State

Stella, Marie V., Retired Lead Information System Security Officer, FAA

Stroup, Jay, Former Federal Security Director, TSA

Sullivan, Brian, Special Agent, Risk Program Management Specialist, FAA

Tice, Russ, Senior Intelligence Analyst & Action Officer, NSA

Tortorich, Larry J., Retired Naval Officer, US Navy & Dept. of Homeland Security/TSA,

Turner, Jane, Veteran Special Agent, FBI

Vincent, John, Veteran Special Agent, Counterterrorism, FBI 

Walp, Glenn, PhD, Former Office Leader of the Office of Security Inquiries, Los Alamos National Lab, DOE

Woo, Robert, Special Agent, Counterintelligence, FBI

Wright, Robert, Veteran Special agent, Counterterrorism, FBI


208 posted on 01/05/2006 12:18:28 AM PST by Howlin (Defeatism may have its partisan uses, but it is not justified by the facts. - GWB, 12/18/05)
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To: churchillbuff
Maybe we can get the illegal domestic spying stopped

Except there is no illegal domestic spying. Guess the law be damed. To hell with self defense of our society. It does NOT fit the Hollywood Sitcom view of the Law the rabid Bush haters have mythologies for themselves it MUST be illegal. Wrong again as usual.

It is PERFECECTLY legal. YOU do NOT have the ability to hide behind your Constitutional Rights while acting as an agent for a terrorists group. Read the damn law for once instead of just spewing out the same pseudo intellectual Civil Libertine hysteric nonsense. Once someone has actively conspire with our enemies we have a right to crush them. Time for the lunatic 60's generation to GROW up. ANYTHING a Government does can be abused.

Using the aggressively stupid ideas of the Loser Generation the Government should do NOTHING EVER because "it might be abused by a future Government".

Gee, the FBI may be abused again by a future Govt, using the absurd nonsense being advanced as "thinking" here we should abolish it. Since someone MAY abuse the Military some day we have to abolish it too. Sorry the world offends the products of the WORST Generation. Too bad. The world DOES NOT revolve around YOUR OWN PERSONAL emotional whimsy. We are a Constitutional Republic, NOT a Democracy. Your personal feelings about a law are meaningless

209 posted on 01/05/2006 12:26:20 AM PST by MNJohnnie (We do not create terrorism by fighting the terrorists. We invite terrorism by ignoring them.--GWBush)
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To: STARWISE; Howlin; Dog
AND, he's been interviewed by Amy Goodman of Democracy Now

HELLO !!!

210 posted on 01/05/2006 12:32:12 AM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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To: Howlin

Looks like the dims and the NYSlimes have jumped into bed with a looney. How fitting!


211 posted on 01/05/2006 12:33:35 AM PST by OldFriend (The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
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To: churchillbuff
Maybe we can get the illegal domestic spying stopped ...

When you find some, let me know and I'll agree with you. But as of right now, you're talking out your ass.

Congress or the courts have never had the ability to restrict the actions of the executive when gathering counterintelligence on our enemies during wartime.

And international electronic communications have been fair game for the intelligence agencies of any nation since international electronic communications were invented.

But you keep inventing laws that don't exist, if that's what keeps your high horse fed.

212 posted on 01/05/2006 12:35:58 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Prost1
If I were the traitor's lawyer...

Actually, a lawyer for this scum may be problematic.

Isn't Lynne Stewart in jail? And Ramsey Clark is out of the country. Kunstler, of course is dead [grin]. Oh, I know! He should give Ron Kuby a call!

213 posted on 01/05/2006 12:58:42 AM PST by LK44-40
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To: Ninian Dryhope

Can we start referring to whomever "outed" the non-covert (and previously outed) CIA employee Valerie Plame-it-on-Bush as a whistleblower?


214 posted on 01/05/2006 1:57:23 AM PST by Notwithstanding (I love my German shepherd - Benedict XVI reigns!)
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To: MNJohnnie
This really has to qualify as "aiding and abetting the enemy", doesn't it? Hell, if this doesn't, WHAT DOES??
215 posted on 01/05/2006 2:01:46 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat ((I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!))
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To: dead; churchillbuff
you're talking out your ass

I salute you for your excellent commentary on CHURCHILLBUFF's posts. Your analysis is succinct, yet throughly covers the terriority.

216 posted on 01/05/2006 2:06:35 AM PST by LK44-40
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To: Jet Jaguar
In August 2004, the agency suspended Tice's clearance. They sent him to the "motor pool' for eight months where he was assigned to fill up NSA vehicles with gas, check fluids and drive around "the bigwigs," on occasion, Tice said in an interview.

He was then put on administrative leave for 14 months. Last month he was re-assigned to the NSA's warehouse where he was ordered to unload furniture from trucks.

SOUNDS LIKE THIS LITTLE PUNK WAS GETTING WHAT HE DESERVED! SO NOW HE THREATENS NATIONAL SECURITY AND DECIDES TO HELP AL QAEDA IN RETALIATION!!??!

What a dickweed.

217 posted on 01/05/2006 2:06:51 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat ((I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!))
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To: churchillbuff
Maybe we can get the illegal domestic spying stopped before Hillary or another Democrat has a chance to become president and use these powers (without judicial OK) to track political enemies.

The problem is, none of the spying is domestic (you've latched onto that leftist spin hook, line and sinker).

And what makes you think Hillary! can be stopped even if there are laws in place?

The template of the Clinton's is to steer clear of any laws, and if successful, go out to the nearest podium, stand in front of cameras and reporters and give the American people the three-foot tall middle finger. Didn't the 8-year circus freak show, commonly referred to as the Clinton administration, teach you anything?

Don't tell me you trust a Clinton or any Democrat for that matter, to abide by the law. Because if you do, you're a damn fool.

218 posted on 01/05/2006 2:23:31 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("Tucker Carlson could reveal himself as a castrated, lesbian, rodeo clown ...wouldn't surprise me")
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To: STARWISE
...he's been interviewed by Amy Goodman of Democracy Now

Another 1960's generation, dope-smoking, maggot infested, phony baloney, "gather 'round and sing 'kum-bi-yah'", fembot socialist.

219 posted on 01/05/2006 2:27:56 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("Tucker Carlson could reveal himself as a castrated, lesbian, rodeo clown ...wouldn't surprise me")
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To: Dave S

There was no article at the time I posted.


220 posted on 01/05/2006 3:42:37 AM PST by thoughtomator (How to recognize the enemy: he says "peace" and means something entirely different)
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