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Cuba 'paid Oswald to kill Kennedy'
Herald Sun ^ | 5 January 2006 | Mark Trevelyan

Posted on 01/04/2006 3:16:45 PM PST by Aussie Dasher

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To: LibertarianCandidate
When will the 4th book on LBJ be out do you know?

I wasn't very political back then but I remember my father hated LBJ because he remembered all his dirty tricks. My father was very Conservative and it must have rubbed off on me. There were very few Republicans in Texas then.
101 posted on 01/05/2006 2:03:10 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Aussie Dasher

This may piss some off here but someone should have shot him after what he did to those brave men at the "Bay of Pigs!"

So I say who cares, I don't.


102 posted on 01/05/2006 3:13:10 AM PST by stockpirate (John Kerry & FBI files ==> http://www.freerepublic.com/~stockpirate/)
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To: Aussie Dasher

One thing is certain: They didn't ONLY send Oswald.

Anybody that thinks he was a lone gunman is insane.

Or Arlen Specter.

But I repeat myself.


103 posted on 01/05/2006 3:22:12 AM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: Paulus
Oswald could not hit water if he fell out of a boat.

And you have sources better at judging rifle marksmanship than the US Marines?

(200 yards seated rapid : 9 out of 10 into the central area of a head and shouders target.)

104 posted on 01/05/2006 3:34:42 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (Free Speech is not for everyone, If you don't like it, then don't use it)
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To: Oztrich Boy

Just because a person is in the Marines does not mean he is an excellent marksman. Would you not agree that the Marine weaponry he qualified at 1 pt. above Marksman with is a tad bit better than the $18 dollar Italian job?

BTW, Why would such an efficient Marine like Oswald not shoot when he had the target at point blank range and could not have missed, only to shoot later when the target would become much more difficult?


105 posted on 01/05/2006 4:39:33 AM PST by Paulus
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To: Paulus
You need better sources than Oliver Stone

Just because a person is in the Marines does not mean he is an excellent marksman.

Marine traing can help. And I gave you the actual performance Oswald made on the range, Wednesday 19 December 1956, three weeks into basic training,

Would you not agree that the Marine weaponry he qualified at 1 pt. above Marksman with is a tad bit better than the $18 dollar Italian job?
yes the M-1 is a tad better than the Carcano. Your point being?
BTW, Why would such an efficient Marine like Oswald not shoot when he had the target at point blank range and could not have missed, only to shoot later when the target would become much more difficult?
"more difficult" is relative. All shots that day were easy. But speculating: Maybe LHO couldn't shoot a guy in the face.
106 posted on 01/05/2006 5:30:24 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (Free Speech is not for everyone, If you don't like it, then don't use it)
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To: Aussie Dasher
I think this is probably one of the most likely conspiracy scenarios given Oswald's connections with the Communists. The Russians probably used a proxy to get back at the late President Kennedy and Oswald was probably the perfect person to pull it off.

From reading Gerald Posner's book Case Closed, even Posner thinks that the Communist connection is one of the more plausible ones.

107 posted on 01/05/2006 5:54:34 AM PST by RayChuang88
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To: KevinB
Hammer, head, nail. It has always been my view that Ruby's actions indicated mob involvement in the Kennedy assasination

The Chicago mob had stood behind him and then the administration neglected them after the election. It pissed off (Gianncona?) right?

108 posted on 01/05/2006 6:15:10 AM PST by 101st-Eagle
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To: Oztrich Boy

I appreciate your research tip.

On December 21, 1956, Oswald qualified as a "sharpshooter". Lee Harvey Oswald obtained a score of 212 with an M1 rifle, only two points above the minimum for the "sharpshooter" level, the middle of three qualification levels in the USMC: "Marksman", "Sharpshooter" and "Expert".

On May 6 1959: At another shooting qualification with the M1 rifle, Lee Harvey Oswald obtained a score of 191, i.e. only one point above the minimum needed to qualify as a "marksman". He almost flunked.

I agree training can help. However, His training in the USMC appears not to have helped.

My point is that with the M-1 and under the supervision of the USMC, he is most likely a "Marksman". Shots fired downhill at a moving target require a large amount of skill.
Even with a good rifle this is difficult. With the Carcano a marksman like LHO used he could not hit water if he fell out of a boat.

Good point... I never thought of that. However I cannot think of LHO as any type of killer.


109 posted on 01/05/2006 6:41:39 AM PST by Paulus
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To: Aussie Dasher

Poppycock.


110 posted on 01/05/2006 6:43:41 AM PST by veronica (....."send Congressman Murtha a message: that cowards cut and run, Marines never do.")
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To: x1stcav

The left loves Castro far more than they ever loved Kennedy.


111 posted on 01/05/2006 6:52:27 AM PST by samtheman
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To: zbigreddogz
Anybody that thinks he was a lone gunman is insane.
And anybody who thinks a conspiracy ending in the death of a president can be covered up never heard of watergate. Can't cover up a burglary. Can cover up the conspiracy-assasination of the age.

The flaws of the "lone gunman" theory are nothing compared to the "coverup was successful" theory.

112 posted on 01/05/2006 7:00:16 AM PST by samtheman
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To: Ichneumon
Great quotes from a great book.

Its too bad that the facts always get in the way of a good conspiracy theory.

Whenever I mention that I believe Oswald was the lone shooter, I always like to ask the person how many Kennedy conspiracy theories are out there. 10, 50, 500, or maybe 1000 different theories have been put forward? Only one theory can be right however. Now if only one can be right, isn't it just as believable that none of them are?

113 posted on 01/05/2006 11:01:21 AM PST by GunRunner
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To: 101st-Eagle
The Chicago mob had stood behind him and then the administration neglected them after the election. It pissed off (Gianncona?) right?

It went way beyond neglecting the mob; Bobby Kennedy actively went after the mob after he became attorney general. It probably didn't help either that Jack was sleeping with Giancana's girlfriend.

114 posted on 01/05/2006 11:24:10 AM PST by KevinB
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To: Sonny M

In one episode of the Family Guy, Hinkley is released, and fires a gun into the air. Out of nowhere, Jodie Foster walks up and says "wow, you fired that gun reeeaaal gooood. Maybe I was wrong about you." and they walk off arm in arm. HA!


115 posted on 01/05/2006 12:35:23 PM PST by Zeppelin (Stop Global Warming. Shut a Liberal's Mouth.)
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To: Ichneumon

I was alive at the time in college. I remember many news articles that where never answered. The Warren report, as far as I recall, was heavily redacted, portions were sealed for 50 years. Autopsy records were filtered and many sealed or redacted.
If all this "secret" info is released then I'll be satisfied. Having lived thru those years with a pretty good memory and above average IQ, I don't go in for the usual conspiracy theories, not when it comes to JFK and LBJ.
One caveat: I definitely was NOT a fan of either one.


116 posted on 01/05/2006 4:27:24 PM PST by pankot
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To: kingu

The conspiracy theory about the Unabomber is that he was also the Zodiac. Both were familiar with math/cryptography, had the same car, lived in Frisco at the same time etc...........


117 posted on 01/06/2006 6:22:47 AM PST by MAWG (In the shadows, on permanent ambush duty.)
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To: Paulus

I have fired both weapons. The M1 garand is an excellent firearm. At 200 yds, in a prone position, I put 8 out of ten in the black the first time I ever fired a garand. The carcano was a piece of shit. Even using the scope that it came with and adjusting it several times , the performance was no where near as good as the garand without a scope. They are not the same weapon.


118 posted on 01/06/2006 6:46:09 AM PST by MAWG (In the shadows, on permanent ambush duty.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

What a load...


119 posted on 01/06/2006 7:03:12 AM PST by Havoc (President George and King George.. coincidence?)
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To: Admin Moderator

This one may need to be locked as well.

As may this one:
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The oldest one appears to be this one:
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120 posted on 01/06/2006 10:57:35 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this URL -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/pledge)
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