Thank goodness they are doing a house cleaning. Have to tell you, it gives one pause to think of those in the news not putting out their own stuff.
Obviously those of the past have not taught anyone a lesson here.
To: Former Military Chick
Why, he could be a Presidential candidate!..........
2 posted on
01/04/2006 12:36:10 PM PST by
Red Badger
(And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him)
To: Former Military Chick
Old school journalists used plagarism to write articles. They used the work of others as "research". It was hard to get caught before Nexus and the internet.
New school journalists use DNC/DU/MoveOn faxes and outright fabrications to write articles. They are no longer handcuffed to the truth. After all, who is going to correct them?
3 posted on
01/04/2006 12:38:48 PM PST by
AppyPappy
(If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
To: NCPAC; MD4Bush; xcullen; Anti-Bubba182; Mo1; cyncooper; BillF; crushkerry; Howlin; backhoe; ...
Ping!
Olekser was the Sun columnist who wrote sloppy, biased crap about NCPAC and the MD4Bush affair.
City Paper article link.
To: sauropod; Lil'freeper
So sorry...NOT!! Don't let the door hit ya in the arse.
6 posted on
01/04/2006 1:11:49 PM PST by
big'ol_freeper
("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." Pope JPII)
To: Former Military Chick
This is a good day in Baltimore
7 posted on
01/04/2006 1:14:48 PM PST by
Vision
(“We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the duty of intelligent men")
To: Former Military Chick
The bigger cockroach (The Sun) bites off the head of the smaller cockroach (Olesker). Cannibalism taking place inside the walls of the Baltimore Sun.
Just wait until the MD4BUSH story is fully exposed, it may look like "Lord Of The Flies" over there before its all over with.
To: OldFriend; StarCMC; La Enchiladita; SoldiersSister; wagglebee; Peach; pbrown; A CA Guy; don-o; ...
PING
Perhaps we are finally cleaning house.
13 posted on
01/04/2006 3:18:41 PM PST by
Former Military Chick
(I salute all our Vets, those who walked before me and all those who walk after me.)
To: Former Military Chick
that I made errors of sloppiness and inadvertence that were human mistakes and certainly not in any way willful So he copied others works but didn't do it willfully, that's nice to know. These people just can't tell the truth can they?
15 posted on
01/04/2006 3:38:01 PM PST by
calex59
To: Former Military Chick; Admin Moderator
Actually,
The Sun isn't leveling the allegation of plagiarism. They are spinning it as a less-serious offense:
The Suns correction described Oleskers mistake as a failure of attribution, not plagiarism, explaining that Olesker had recorded Carlsons description in a notebook, in preparation for an April 2004 interview with Cleland. When he returned to the notebook 20 months later, according to the correction, Olesker mistook his close paraphrase of the Post paragraph as his own interview notes.
[...]
It really was a mistake, Libit says. A panel of editors got together and talked about it with Mike [Olesker], and he retrieved the notebook and we looked at it, and it truly was a mistake and inadvertent.
[...]
After satisfying themselves that Oleskers near-copy of Carlsons language was accidental, the committee of editors drafted the correction, which ran on Saturday, Dec. 24. The correction does not use the word plagiarism to describe Oleskers mistake, Libit says, because this wasnt a case where [Olesker] was trying to take a shortcut or was intentionally copying from another source. This was a case where 20 months later his notes were unclear. When asked whether the newspaper is taking disciplinary action, Libit says, I cant talk about that, but adds that Oleskers column will continue to run as usual.
The problem comes when other examples were so readily found. This shows that
The Sun has not fully explained the actions of its former columnist (although he might be described as "habitually sloppy"...both with unattributed quotes
and facts!).
16 posted on
01/04/2006 3:38:56 PM PST by
Gondring
(I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
To: Former Military Chick
To: Former Military Chick
Olesker isn't just a plagiarist. He regularly distorted facts or flat-out made them up in order to bolster his opinions. The Sun always let him get away with it because they agreed with his opinions. They used the excuse that he had license to do so because he wrote opinion pieces, not "hard news".
Apparently they couldn't find an excuse to let him get away with outright plagiarism (even though they merely referred to it as 'failure to appropriately attribute' or some such).
BTW, he used to do those 30-second opinion pieces for one of the Balimer TV stations, too. Not only did he have the same journalistic integrity in producing those, but he's ugly and has one of the most annoying voices I've ever heard, to boot.
22 posted on
01/04/2006 3:50:16 PM PST by
No Longer Free State
(No event has just one cause, no person has just one motive, no action has just the intended effect)
To: Former Military Chick
Franklin said he didn't believe Olesker's resignation would affect the lawsuit, because arguments already have been made in the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Richmond, Va. Franklin also said the lawsuit is "bigger than one individual." If David Nitkin is fired, indicted, resigns, or otherwise departs does the "Sun Papers Right to access MD State Officials" lawsuit become moot?.
To: Former Military Chick
Unfortunately, The Baltimore Pravda was just forced to throw one columnist over the side because he got caught red-handed by the even more liberal City Paper. This will in no way have an impact on the paper acting as the PR department for the Maryland DemocRAT party or the O'Malley campaign.
30 posted on
01/04/2006 8:17:25 PM PST by
RebelBanker
(If you can't do something smart, do something right.)
To: Former Military Chick
To: Former Military Chick; sauropod
Olesker said Wednesday that he and the newspaper have "been under tremendous pressure politically" Pffffft! Typical liberal response when caught red-handed in undeniable wrongdoing: "The VRWC made me do it!"
36 posted on
01/05/2006 5:40:56 AM PST by
shezza
(36 days)
To: Former Military Chick
Last month, Olesker wrote: "On one of his first trips out, an old girlfriend pushed his wheelchair around Washington. Near the White House, the wheelchair hit a curb. Cleland pitched forward and fell out, flopping around in dirt and cigarette butts in a gutter." Speaking of plagiarism, this reminds me of an old Henny Youngman joke (from http://funny2.com/henny.htm ): A man is at the bar, drunk. I pick him up off the floor, and offer to take him home. On the way to my car, he falls down three times. When I get to his house, I help him out of the car, and on the way to the front door, he falls down four more times. I ring the bell, and say, "Here's your husband!" The man's wife says, "Where's his wheelchair?"
Cheers!
38 posted on
01/05/2006 8:42:55 PM PST by
grey_whiskers
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