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It's the Demography, Stupid The real reason the West is in danger of extinction.
Opinion Journal ^
| January 4, 2006
| MARK STEYN
Posted on 01/04/2006 4:55:37 AM PST by Toaster tank
Most people reading this have strong stomachs, so let me lay it out as baldly as I can: Much of what we loosely call the Western world will not survive this century, and much of it will effectively disappear within our lifetimes
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TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: aliens; birthrates; civilzations; declineofwest; demographics; demography; immigrantlist; immigration; thewest; west; westerncivilization
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If you'll fall for anything, you'll stand for nothing.
To: Toaster tank
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posted on
01/04/2006 4:58:08 AM PST
by
marvlus
To: Toaster tank
The title you created has been changed to the original published title.
Avoid duplication by using only the original published title.
To: Toaster tank
Then September 11 happened. And bizarrely the reaction of just about every prominent Western leader was to visit a mosque: President Bush did, the prince of Wales did, the prime minister of the United Kingdom did, the prime minister of Canada did . . . The premier of Ontario didn't, and so 20 Muslim community leaders had a big summit to denounce him for failing to visit a mosque. Typical of succumbing to political correctness.
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posted on
01/04/2006 5:02:37 AM PST
by
raybbr
(ANWR is a barren, frozen wasteland - like the mind of a democrat!)
To: eyespysomething
Maybe there was a big backlog, it was mosque drive time, prime ministers in gridlock up and down the freeway trying to get to the Sword of the Infidel-Slayer Mosque on Elm Street.
ROFLOL ... This column is well worth reading.
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posted on
01/04/2006 5:05:28 AM PST
by
SittinYonder
(That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
To: Toaster tank
'That's what the war's about: our lack of civilizational confidence'
So, Spengler was right after all. Didn't he say that culture is the debased form of civilization? Do we have one debased culture squaring off with another debased culture here?
Anyway, like the man said, '...it all comes down to blood and money in the end..'
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posted on
01/04/2006 5:06:58 AM PST
by
SMARTY
("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else." Lucius Septimus Severus)
To: Toaster tank
The impending death of western civilation nicely summed up.
To: SMARTY
I thought it was good vs eeeeevil.
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posted on
01/04/2006 5:09:48 AM PST
by
wita
(truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
To: raybbr
perhaps if the western leaders had visited destruction upon Mosques then the message would have secured the peace.
In the Gulf war...Gulf war 2....Afghanistan...it was an imperative to avoid destroying mosque....
This false, patently rabid religion respects power and destruction....and we are too timid to survive and they know it.
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posted on
01/04/2006 5:10:48 AM PST
by
Vaquero
("An armed society is a polite society" Robert Heinlein)
To: Toaster tank
Liberals destroyed the west becuase they created the belief that we needed to water the weeds.
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posted on
01/04/2006 5:10:53 AM PST
by
edcoil
(Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
To: SMARTY
The first commandment, multiply and replenish the earth. The muslims are obeying, everyone else is neglecting, and if the neglect continues, the results are explained quite nicely by Mark.
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posted on
01/04/2006 5:12:54 AM PST
by
wita
(truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
To: Toaster tank
An interesting read....Steyn always is but his thesis rests on current birh rates and current life expectancy.
Life expectancy will see a radical transformation upward in the next 20-30 years which will ameliorate the problem Steyn ponders.
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posted on
01/04/2006 5:16:16 AM PST
by
Neville72
(uist)
To: Vaquero
The demographics of extinction - totally agree with your assessment.
I read recently that mohammed (the worlds favorite peadophile) took Mecca without a shot being fired.
Tell you what - in the UK we are ready to surrender our culture. Guess that goes for most of Europe too...it is truly pathetic to see us giving in without a fight.
Our new conservative party is probably left of your democrats (not true, but it's a close run thing). We have been robbed of choice. The only ones to benefit will be the muslims and (in the short term) our neofascist parties.
Not good, not good at all.
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posted on
01/04/2006 5:21:04 AM PST
by
vimto
(Life isn't a dry run)
To: Toaster tank
but I agree Britney Spears dresses like a slut: I'm with Mullah Omar on that one. ..... LMAO
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posted on
01/04/2006 5:22:27 AM PST
by
showme_the_Glory
(No more rhyming, and I mean it! ..Anybody got a peanut.....)
To: edcoil
"Liberals destroyed the west becuase they created the belief that we needed to water the weeds."......I like that, but it sure shows my/your bias toward certain of our fellow beings.....and a real lack of the classic-- I feel your pain....;^)
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posted on
01/04/2006 5:23:37 AM PST
by
litehaus
To: Toaster tank
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posted on
01/04/2006 5:24:04 AM PST
by
Rebelbase
(Whew! Another year until the cursed green bean casserole strikes again!)
To: Toaster tank
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posted on
01/04/2006 5:25:48 AM PST
by
ncountylee
(Dead terrorists smell like victory)
To: Neville72
Not so! Had you read one of his other articles explaining how difficult it might be for an older population to effectively fight a younger population you would understand, but then possibly I'm missing your point.
How would a greater life expectancy not effect both populations and thus be a wash in the numbers game where birth rate and survival rate at birth and the first 10 yrs or so be the controlling statistics.
If all Muslim children could become homicide bombers that might help, or half of them became crispy critters, or the other half had a Christian epiphany, then, maybe.
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posted on
01/04/2006 5:26:47 AM PST
by
wita
(truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
To: Vaquero
We have departed from the historically and practically demonstrated goal of military conflict: "Defeat equals destruction." Now, defeat equals reward from the victor and sympathy from the victor's enemies. It has become an inverted equation.
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posted on
01/04/2006 5:28:07 AM PST
by
SMARTY
("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else." Lucius Septimus Severus)
To: vimto
I read recently that mohammed (the worlds favorite peadophile) took Mecca without a shot being fired.Reagan defeated the Soviet Union without a shot.
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