Posted on 01/01/2006 12:39:25 AM PST by HAL9000
MOSCOW. Jan 1 (Interfax) - Gazprom has started to reduce pressure in pipelines that deliver Russian gas to Ukrainian consumers, Russian gas giant spokesman Sergei Kupriyanov said in Moscow on Sunday.Gas shipments transiting Ukraine en route to Europe are proceeding in full, he said.
On Saturday, Russian President Vladimir Putin offered Ukraine a three-month gas price freeze as long as the Ukrainian authorities agreed to pay what Gazprom sees as the market price of $230 for 1,000 cubic meters, Kupriyanov said.
"We were ready to accommodate the Ukrainian people's needs and maintain comfortable conditions for our work during the winter season, which is the most difficult period from the point of view of energy supplies. But our offer has been turned down," the spokesman said.
It means that "from the very beginning the Ukrainian authorities had plans to begin to use gas without permission from January 1. To be more precise, they planned to start to steal gas - steal it from European consumers," he said.
Ukraine's rejection "of our proposed solution to the problems will entail catastrophic consequences for the Ukrainian economy and, unfortunately, the fraternal people of Ukraine," Kupriyanov said.
"We believe that it will be extremely difficult - impossible, to be more precise - for the authorities of Ukraine to explain to their people the reason for such a short-sighted policy," the spokesman said.
http://en.for-ua.com/news/2005/12/30/140002.html ==
Lucasz your articel is lie which was dismissed next day.
Guys Ukraine has untouched resources of uranium. So no Russian monopoly here. :)
Where it was dismissed? I suppose that in Russian state owned TV only :)
Where it was dismissed? I suppose that in Russian state owned TV only :)==
No your supposition is wrong. If you read russian you may find it here.
http://phorum.proua.com/
This is internet forum, you claim that it was dismissed in the Ukrainian internet forum? :)
I got tired... Maybe it is too much to understand for you but Poland is selling own domestic gas to Germany as well.
This is internet forum, you claim that it was dismissed in the Ukrainian internet forum? :)==
Internet forum has new service. Plus the participants who bring news from TV or papers which they saw or red.
You soon will read it in english too. But as always with delay 1-2 days.
As I told you, in Russian state owned TV :)
Nikolai Bulganin was a genetic Russian, Nikita Khrushchev's connections to Ukraine were the purges there, Blevonid Brezhnev was a genetic Russian, as were Yuri Andropov and Mikhail Gorbachev. ==
Genetic russian? Who Nikita? Glob you dispise soviet propaganda in your words but beleive it wholeheartly when it suites you:)).
Mihael Gorbachev the FIRST russian in charge of Soviet Union ever. He ended this state.
Before him it was 30 years of ukranian rule of USSR. That is why Russia lots Crimea and Novorossia.
P.S. But if you "hohol" yourself then I'm not surprised at all. Nation of liers and gas thieves.
Encyclopaedia Britannica is for you a soviet propaganda? Strange, to say the least. The Ukrainians in the USSR were a distinct national minority, less disadvantaged than, for example, "churki" from Central Asia, the Balts or the Jews, but - precisely because of the past nationalistic movements in Ukraine - kept on a pretty short leash. Yes, the Ukrainians were allowed into nomenklatura [had to be, given their numbers] - but never in the top job, nor to the top of the crucial KGB or ideology departments. And if they were "ruling for 30 years" without interruption - why would they be hiding their Ukrainity in their own "anketas"? Why would Chernenko, as a ruler, have it written that he was born in a genetically Russian peasant family [nobody would believe anyway, whatever it was he was writing] - so what was the point of writing a lie?
Encyclopaedia Britannica is for you a soviet propaganda? Strange, to say the least.==
Ok hence just simple ignorance. What new if same encyclopedia don't separate th ehistory of Russia and Soviet Union. Because of such ignorance we see here that americans calls "soviets" as "Russians". And so on.
Ignorance rules:(.
Yes, the Ukrainians were allowed into nomenklatura [had to be, given their numbers] - but never in the top job, nor to the top of the crucial KGB or ideology departments. ===
Yeah yeah:))). Interesting who was Semichastnii the KGB head during Khruschev time who conducted the anti_nikita coupe with his another ukranian friend and next general secretary Leonid Brezhnev?
Let forget about Khruschev, Brezhnev, Semichasnii, Podgornii, or Chernenko for a minute.
Tell me who were Krilenko, Dibenko, Podvoiskii, Tsurupa, Lunacharskii? They are the first ministers in first bolshevick goverment of Lenin!
Too much for your "Ukrainians were allowed into nomenklatura [had to be, given their numbers] - but never in the top job, ":))). Isn't it?
If this was told by american I would suspect simple ignorance but if by you the people who lived there and saw it by your own eyes then I suspect just it is simple manipulation to embelish ukranian nation and make them "victims" when they were perpetrators.
Putin's former economic advisor Andrei Illarionov neatly summed up the legal rights and wrongs of the dispute on Ekho Moskvy this morning. He damns the Russian position hook, line and sinker. Here's what he says:
"Today's prices, 50 dollars per 1,000 cu. m., were set by a supplementary agreement to a contract between Gazprom and Naftohaz [Ukrayiny] which was signed on 8 August 2004. The contract, according to the text of the supplementary agreement, is to be in effect for five years, up to 2009. The supplementary agreement states that the price of 50 dollars per 1,000 cu. m. is fixed. For those who don't fully understand the meaning of the Russian word fixed, it says two lines further down that these prices are not changeable."
History of Soviet Union IS that of 20th century Russia [just as kolkhozy were 20th century reincarnation of older serfdom] - there is no discontinuity, mistake or ignorance there. Read Zinoviev on the subject, his works might be still available. 1917 revolution was 70% done by "natsmeny" of all kinds - revolutionaries had to come from the ranks of the disaffected, and Russian Empire was very effective in disaffecting its minorities. Majority nationalism reasserted itself only in Stalin's purges.
1917 revolution was 70% done by "natsmeny" of all kinds - revolutionaries had to come from the ranks of the disaffected, and Russian Empire was very effective in disaffecting its minorities. ==
It is exactly what I telling you. Ukranians are just one of those "natsmen". But here ignorant public mixed "russians" and "soviets" and blme russians for soviets. Which is very dishonest and unfair.
I hope YOU at least is not that ignorant?
BTW Russia and Russian Empire are different things. DO you recognise the difference between Great Britain and British Empire?
Putin's former economic advisor Andrei Illarionov neatly summed up the legal rights and wrongs of the dispute on Ekho Moskvy this morning. ==
DO not listen that oligarkh advocate. Illarionov is relict of Eltsin rule which Putin kept too long.
No, the SPD is still committed to the nuclear exit. But in a future government with the FDP, we can and will stop shutting down our nuclear plants.
I think it´s unfair to charge Belarus with different prices than the Ukraine.
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