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Sniper shot that took out an insurgent killer from three quarters of a mile
telegraph ^ | 01/01/2006 | Toby Harnden in Ramadi

Posted on 12/31/2005 3:04:24 PM PST by Flavius

Gazing through the telescopic sight of his M24 rifle, Staff Sgt Jim Gilliland, leader of Shadow sniper team, fixed his eye on the Iraqi insurgent who had just killed an American soldier.

His quarry stood nonchalantly in the fourth-floor bay window of a hospital in battle-torn Ramadi, still clasping a long-barrelled Kalashnikov. Instinctively allowing for wind speed and bullet drop, Shadow's commander aimed 12 feet high.

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A single shot hit the Iraqi in the chest and killed him instantly. It had been fired from a range of 1,250 metres, well beyond the capacity of the powerful Leupold sight, accurate to 1,000 metres.

"I believe it is the longest confirmed kill in Iraq with a 7.62mm rifle," said Staff Sgt Gilliland, 28, who hunted squirrels in Double Springs, Alabama from the age of five before progressing to deer - and then people.

"He was visible only from the waist up. It was a one in a million shot. I could probably shoot a whole box of ammunition and never hit him again."

Later that day, Staff Sgt Gilliland found out that the dead soldier was Staff Sgt Jason Benford, 30, a good friend.

Iraq factfile

The insurgent was one of between 55 and 65 he estimates that he has shot dead in less than five months, putting him within striking distance of sniper legends such as Carlos Hathcock, who recorded 93 confirmed kills in Vietnam. One of his men, Specialist Aaron Arnold, 22, of Medway, Ohio, has chalked up a similar tally.

"It was elating, but only afterwards," said Staff Sgt Gilliland, recalling the September 27 shot. "At the time, there was no high-fiving. You've got troops under fire, taking casualties and you're not thinking about anything other than finding a target and putting it down. Every shot is for the betterment of our cause."

All told, the 10-strong Shadow sniper team, attached to Task Force 2/69, has killed just under 200 in the same period and emerged as the US Army's secret weapon in Ramadi against the threat of the hidden Improvised Explosive Device (IED) or roadside bomb - the insurgency's deadliest tactic.

Above the spot from which Staff Sgt Gilliland took his record shot, in a room at the top of a bombed-out observation post which is code-named Hotel and known jokingly to soldiers as the Ramadi Inn, are daubed "Kill Them All" and "Kill Like you Mean it".

On another wall are scrawled the words of Senator John McCain: "America is great not because of what she has done for herself but because of what she has done for others."

The juxtaposition of macho slogans and noble political rhetoric encapsulates the dirty, dangerous and often callous job the sniper has to carry out as an integral part of a campaign ultimately being waged to help the Iraqi people.

With masterful understatement, Lt Col Robert Roggeman, the Task Force 2/69 commander, conceded: "The romantic in me is disappointed with the reception we've received in Ramadi," a town of 400,000 on the banks of the Euphrates where graffiti boasts, with more than a degree of accuracy: "This is the graveyard of the Americans".

"We're the outsiders, the infidels," he said. "Every time somebody goes out that main gate he might not come back. It's still a running gun battle."

Highly effective though they are, he worries about the burden his snipers have to bear. "It's a very God-like role. They have the power of life and death that, if not held in check, can run out of control. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

"Every shot has to be measured against the Rules of Engagement [ROE], positive identification and proportionality."

Staff Sgt Gilliland explains that his Shadow team operates at the "borderlines" of the ROE, making snap judgements about whether a figure in the crosshairs is an insurgent or not.

"Hunters give their animals respect," he said, spitting out a mouthful of chewing tobacco. "If you have no respect for what you do you're not going to be very good or you're going to make a mistake. We try to give the benefit of the doubt.

"You've got to live with it. It's on your conscience. It's something you've got to carry away with you. And if you shoot somebody just walking down the street, then that's probably going to haunt you."

Although killing with a single shot carries an enormous cachet within the sniper world, their most successful engagements have involved the shooting a up to 10 members of a single IED team.

"The one-shot-one-kill thing is one of beauty but killing all the bad dudes is even more attractive," said Staff Sgt Gilliland, whose motto is "Move fast, shoot straight and leave the rest to the counsellors in 10 years" and signs off his e-mails with "silent souls make.308 holes".

Whether Shadow team's work will ultimately make a difference in Iraq is open to question. No matter how many insurgents they shoot, there seems no shortage of recruits to plant bombs.

Col John Gronski, the overall United States commander in Ramadi, said there could not be a military solution. "You could spend years putting snipers out and killing IED emplacers and at the political level it would make no difference."

As they prepare to leave Iraq, however, Staff Sgt Gilliland and his men hope that they have bought a little more time for the country's politicians to fix peace and stability in their sights.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
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To: Flavius
"His quarry stood nonchalantly in the fourth-floor bay window of a HOSPITAL"
Funny I don't recall any story about how the terrorist were breaking the Geneva Convention by using HOSPITALS.
81 posted on 12/31/2005 5:32:29 PM PST by 20yearvet
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To: Milhous

The Remmington model 700 rifle is probablly the best all around rifle made.


82 posted on 12/31/2005 5:36:00 PM PST by skimask (I'll march through Hell wearing shorts soaked in gasoline, if needed to get the job done)
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To: Flavius

"I believe it is the longest confirmed kill in Iraq with a 7.62mm rifle," said Staff Sgt Gilliland, 28, who hunted squirrels in Double Springs, Alabama from the age of five before progressing to deer - and then people. "

He should write a book when he gets out.


83 posted on 12/31/2005 5:39:46 PM PST by Cruz
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To: Godebert

"but I don't recall anyone from my father's generation belly-aching to the point where they were unable to hold a job."

Right on, they came home and moved on with their lives. They are "The Greatest Generation"


84 posted on 12/31/2005 5:40:03 PM PST by skimask (I'll march through Hell wearing shorts soaked in gasoline, if needed to get the job done)
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To: DariusBane

Yes.


85 posted on 12/31/2005 5:42:16 PM PST by Cessna182
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To: saquin

December 11, 2004

Ramadi Hospital Used as Ambush Firing Position
From Reuters via The Australian :

"Soldiers from the 1st Marine Division ... were ambushed by insurgents operating in and near the Ramadi General Hospital and Medical College," the military said. A statement said the attack took place yesterday.
"Some of the muzzle flashes of insurgent firing positions were observed as originating from windows within the hospital."

The military said rebel fighters had turned off all the lights in the hospital and surrounding buildings as the soldiers approached, before unleashing rocket-propelled grenades and small arms fire as soon as the lights were turned back on.

"Soldiers pushed through the ambush, returning defensive fire, some of which was aimed at insurgents in the hospital," the statement said.

It said no US soldiers were wounded or killed in the fighting, but did not give any information about insurgent casualties. The US military's account could not be confirmed.
[...]
The Marines said they would return to speak with staff at Ramadi's hospital to assess the damage caused in yesterday's firefight and investigate the incident.

In a separate incident in the city, the 1st Marine Division said it had destroyed a large weapons cache discovered in a suburb of Ramadi late yesterday.


86 posted on 12/31/2005 5:51:39 PM PST by endthematrix (Those who despise freedom and progress have condemned themselves to isolation, decline, and collapse)
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To: skimask
"The Remmington model 700 rifle is probablly the best all around rifle made."

I agree to a point, and when you factor modern factory sporting rifles.

The Marlin MR-7 was one damn fine rifle but they were only made for a few short years in the 90's.

I think they were only made in 25/06,270,280 rem.,and 30/06.

I have yet to see one that wouldn't shoot M.O.A. or less.

If you find one used, ya better snap it up, they are getting hard to find now and anyone that has shot one won't sell it.
87 posted on 12/31/2005 6:15:12 PM PST by Beagle8U (An "Earth First" kinda guy ( when we finish logging here, we'll start on the other planets.)
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To: Flavius

Iraq = open season, no license required, no bag limits, no tagging and no cleaning of the game...


88 posted on 12/31/2005 6:16:36 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (If I get socks again this year from my sis and bro-in-law I'm going to be really mad....)
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To: Southack; Flavius; Dog; MikeinIraq; Marine_Uncle; Travis McGee; Lazamataz; section9; rdb3; ...

Boom!!

Headshot!!


:)


89 posted on 12/31/2005 6:27:50 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Happy New Year)
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To: Flavius

I ran that on a conversion website. Three quarters of a mile and change? Veddy nize.


90 posted on 12/31/2005 6:35:44 PM PST by RichInOC (GILLILAND: HOW ARE YOU MUZZY!! DESTRUCTION ARE ON THE WAY TO YOU. HA HA HA HA....)
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To: Flavius
who hunted squirrels in Double Springs, Alabama from the age of five before progressing to deer - and then people.

Make it sound as if he's killing Iraqis for the fun of it. Give me a break - the man did his duty.

91 posted on 12/31/2005 6:38:06 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: MikeinIraq
"Boom!! Headshot!! "
He had to hold 144" high. It was a lucky chest shot. Never the less this goon will no longer be standing atop a medical building shooting at our guys.
92 posted on 12/31/2005 6:44:06 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Flavius

93 posted on 12/31/2005 6:48:46 PM PST by blam
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To: Flavius
"You could spend years putting snipers out and killing IED emplacers and at the political level it would make no difference."

It made a difference to the IED emplacers who met Allah in Hell

94 posted on 12/31/2005 6:53:49 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the hubris to think they will be the planners)
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Not 1250 meters but still pretty damn good:
During the November battle for Fallujah, a U.S. Marine sniper made the longest range kills so far in Iraq. Reservist sergeant Herbert B. Hancock, chief scout sniper for the 1st battalion, 23rd Marine Regiment, shot four Iraqis at a range of some 970 meters. The 35 year-old marine is a Texas police officer in civilian life. The shooting was done with the bolt action 7.62mm M40A3 rifle. Based on the Remington 700 short action rifle, the M40A3s are hand made to marine specifications. The rifle weighs 16.5 pounds, is 44.25 inches long and uses a 10X scope. The rifle comes with a bipod, and a rail that can also mount night vision scopes. Marine snipers operate in teams of two men, with the other man, who is often also a qualified sniper, acting as a spotter (usually with a 20X scope and binoculars.) A 970 meter shot is difficult for a 7.62mm rifle, especially in Iraq, with it’s heat and humidity (which interferes with the predictability of the bullets flight). A 7.62mm rifle rarely gets hits at more than (or even close to) 1,000 meters, and anything over 500 meters requires a high degree of skill. Shooting is easier in Afghanistan, where higher elevations provide thinner, drier air, and cooler temperatures. A Canadian sniper made a record shot (2,400 meters) in Afghanistan, using a 12.7mm rifle.
Here is another one at 1050 meters:
AR RAMADI, Iraq(Jan. 02, 2005) -- Seen through a twenty-power spot scope, terrorists scrambled to deliver another mortar round into the tube. Across the Euphrates River from a concealed rooftop, the Marine sniper breathed gently and then squeezed a few pounds of pressure to the delicate trigger of the M40A3 sniper rifle in his grasp.

The rifle's crack froze the booming Fallujah battle like a photograph. As he moved the bolt back to load another round of 7.62mm ammunition, the sniper's spotter confirmed the terrorist went down from the shot mere seconds before the next crack of the rifle dropped another.

It wasn't the sniper's first kill in Iraq, but it was one for the history books.

On Nov. 11, 2004, while coalition forces fought to wrest control of Fallujah from a terrorist insurgency, Marine scout snipers with Company B, 1st Battalion, 23rd Marine Regiment, 31st Marine Expeditionary Unit, applied their basic infantry skills and took them to a higher level.

"From the information we have, our chief scout sniper has the longest confirmed kill in Iraq so far," said Capt. Shayne McGinty, weapons platoon commander for "Bravo" Co. "In Fallujah there were some bad guys firing mortars at us and he took them out from more than 1,000 yards."

[...]" Our (company commander) told us to go find where the mortars were coming from and take them out so we went back out," remembered Han*censored*. "We moved south some more and linked up with the rear elements of our first platoon. Then we got up on a building and scanned across the river. We looked out of the spot scope and saw about three to! five insurgents manning a 120mm mortar tube. We got the coordinates for their position and set up a fire mission. We decided that when the rounds came in that I would engage them with the sniper rifle. We got the splash and there were two standing up looking right at us. One had a black (outfit) on. I shot and he dropped. Right in front of him another got up on his knees looking to try and find out where we were so I dropped him too. After that our mortars just hammered the position, so we moved around in on them."

The subsequent fire for effect landed right on the insurgent mortar position.

"We adjusted right about fifty yards where there were two other insurgents in a small house on the other side of the position," said Flowers. "There was some brush between them and the next nearest building about 400 yards south of where they were at and we were about 1,000 yards from them so I guess they thought we could not spot them. Some grunts were nearby with binoculars but they could not see them, plus they are not trained in detailed observation the way we are. We know what to look for such as target indicators and things that are not easy to see."

Han*censored* and Flowers then scanned several areas that they expected fire from, but the enemy mortars had silenced.

"After we had called in indirect fire and after all the adjustments from our mortars, I got the final 8-digit grid coordinates for the enemy mortar position, looked at our own position using GPS and figured out the distance to the targets we dropped to be 1,050 yards," said Flowers with a grin. "This time we were killing terrorism from more than 1,000 yards."


95 posted on 12/31/2005 7:02:10 PM PST by Starman417
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To: Flavius

Don't try to run--you'll just die tired.


96 posted on 12/31/2005 7:25:34 PM PST by wildbill
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To: Flavius
No matter how many insurgents they shoot, there seems no shortage of recruits to plant bombs.

That's okay, we will make more bullets.

97 posted on 12/31/2005 7:41:33 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Flavius

BUMP!


98 posted on 12/31/2005 7:42:15 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: sully777

The turd in the punchbowl is more like it.


99 posted on 12/31/2005 7:42:18 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Beagle8U

Or build your own. You can make a fine rifle out of a $80 VZ-24 Mauser, Timney adjustable trigger, and Shilen barrel.


100 posted on 12/31/2005 7:47:18 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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