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CBS- Dozens knew about NSA program, so the leaks are ok. (Unlike Plame)
12/30/05

Posted on 12/30/2005 7:34:35 PM PST by ArmyBratproud

Hey Freepers,

Being in the giving spirit of the holidays, I figured I would volunteer to sit through the sickening experience of watching the CBS Evening News tonight. So the rest of you would not have to.

I was wondering how the would report the news about the Justice Department opening an investigaion to the illegal leaking of classified information in regards to the NSA program that is designed to protect us from terrorism.

As I expected, as we all did, CBS tried to spin it to make it sound as if the party who leaked it did nothing wrong.

THE IRONY in all of it? Well, since there could have been dozens who leaked the information, CBS News has seemed to take the position that it is ok that the info was leaked.

Compare this to the Valerie "I never met a camera I didn't strip for" Plame story. According to Andrea Mitchell and others, dang near all of Washington knew that Plame worked for the CIA. Mainly because she told them. And keep in mind that it is obvious that Plame was not covert at the time her info went out. Meaning nobody leaked classified info in that case. Which is why nobody was charged with it.

But that logic is wasted on CBS. Dozens knew about a non-crime in the Plame case, so somebody (only if its a republican) should go to jail. But in the case where there was a crime (likely by an anti-Bush player), the leaking of the NSA information, CBS reported it as if it were a non issue.

Should be no shock since it is...cBS.


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KEYWORDS: cialeak; homeofmemogate; leaks; pravda; seebsnews; spying; typical
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To: Steel Wolf

Possibly one of the three that are already under investigation?


41 posted on 12/30/2005 9:17:55 PM PST by sgtyork (If Osamma calls someone in the US, should the NSA hang up?)
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To: speedy

Wait a few years. Their 15 minutes is about over. Calling a Reuters reporter to the airport before going on holiday tells me these two clowns won't give up the spotlight without taking drastic measures.


42 posted on 12/30/2005 9:29:33 PM PST by Carling (http://www.marriedadults.com/howarddeanscreamaudio141jq.mp3)
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To: ArmyBratproud
Here is the way I see it. President Bush and the Republican party is in serious trouble. The MSM and the RATS will pellet the airways and print with garbage before the JD will ever really get started. The JD must subpoena immediately and get the investigation in high gear. They must indite within a few weeks or they will fail. It has always been that the winner strikes first and hard. This is something the Republican Party and our President just doesn't understand. Old news, no matter how good it would be, will just not be as effective and the ball game will be over.
43 posted on 12/30/2005 9:44:58 PM PST by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: ArmyBratproud
Here's one explanation (IMHO): The New York Times hyped Wilson and Plame, got an investigation going, got a reporter (Judy Miller) in jail, had the thing backfire (Miller fired), and began to hear calls to get rid of the accident-prone Pinch Salzberger. To cover up this scandal, Salzberger and Keller decided to start another one - and this one will come back and bite them too.
44 posted on 12/30/2005 10:15:15 PM PST by Malesherbes
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To: ArmyBratproud

100's +++ know about the Barrett/Cisneros probe,,,,So, where does the publics right to know enter in? Leak the report to CBS and NYT, watch them outdo themselves getting the word out. Ha! Treasnous Hillary will NEVER let that happen.


45 posted on 12/30/2005 10:38:23 PM PST by Waco
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To: ArmyBratproud

The leaker must be caught and punished...treason.


46 posted on 12/31/2005 2:18:02 AM PST by bronxboy
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
"Yeah, and I wonder what O'Donnell and Hissey will be "reporting" when GW begins spear-fishing Democrat leakers throughout 2006. And following Delay's amd Libby's exoneration. LOL!"

Spear-fishing demonrats is a good analogy to use for them.

They are kinda like carp, just taking up space and muddying up the waters.

Spear them and pitch them on the bank, to rot and be eaten by other vermin.
47 posted on 12/31/2005 2:46:53 AM PST by Beagle8U (An "Earth First" kinda guy ( when we finish logging here, we'll start on the other planets.)
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To: Steel Wolf
I thought the Times was told by the White House that they shouldn't print the story because of National Security issues and because the only way the Times could have known what they know is via a "leak". If that is the case, one would think that the Times consulted their attorneys about the issue and it was delivered to the Whitehouse PRIOR to publication.

In the same vein, one would think that Joe Wilson was told by the CIA that he shouldn't publish his article because it was "more than likely" that the public would find out that Valerie was indeed ONE of the persons behind his Niger trip.

48 posted on 12/31/2005 3:12:14 AM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: expatpat

"According to a guy on FNC, there were only a few people who knew about it, and that should make finding the leaker easier. So much for the Communist Bull$h1t System."



I just caught the re-run of Cavuto with Stuart Varney. He has, imo, done a superb job this past week. While he appears to be sort of a 'happy go lucky' guy, he doesn't miss an oppotunity to tell it like it really is and he has not been shy about using the word 'treason'.

He had on Ronald Kessler who also said that only very few knew of the secret program. Yesterday I heard it reported that there were only 8 who were briefed on it.

What I also found interesting was his explanation of WHY it was NOT sufficient for Bush to get warrants, pre or post wiretaping. (Dems always say that he had 72 hours after the fact to get one and there is no excuse.) This is what he said:


Apparently if Bin Laden were calling someone in the States, who proceeded to give Bin Laden information about the next attack, under FISA law, the only information FISA could legally provide Bush is Bin Laden's side of the conversation. NONE of what the person in the US had to say OR their telephone number could legally be provided by FISA to Bush. According to Kessler, when Bush found out, he basically said this is B.S., and made the decision to go around FISA.

Kessler is an author, but I don't know if his explanation is on spot. Anyone?


49 posted on 12/31/2005 3:45:26 AM PST by Kimberly GG
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To: Kimberly GG

I don't have the answer for you, but wasn't that the same interview where the guest stated it didn't rise to the level of treason because there wasn't the intent to overthrow the government of the United States?

Undermining the administration and the nation's security apparatus in time of war sure seems to me like an attempt to overthrow the government.


50 posted on 12/31/2005 4:38:12 AM PST by reformedliberal (Bless our troops and pray for our nation. I am thankful for both and for Free Republic..)
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To: Kimberly GG
This came up a long time ago...The functions of the CIA and the FBI. It's what caused the Patriot act because FISA was inadequate and effectively part of the wall.

Somewhere on the FISA site is a dissertation by Mary Jo White, a statement saying FISA is "lower" than the President's War Powers, an ACLU/USA law case which effectively tells the ACLU to go to he** (ACLU lost) and much more.

The problem this is causing is that cases are going to either get thrown out, dumbed down or "no action" taken. The latest Florida Professor "loss" is likely one of them.

Usama is probably running an ad as we speak: US CITZENS WANTED for "action within the United States".

One of Ashcroft's statements to the Senate made mention of the Alqueda manual's reference to: "Use the laws of the United States against them (us). Moussaoui (who wasn;t even a citizen) is/was a good example. He might look like a dumb ox but IMHO, he knew what he was doing along "legal lines". Wasn't Moussaoui's female attorney found passing information from Moussaoui to "terrorists"?

51 posted on 12/31/2005 4:50:33 AM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: ArmyBratproud

Paging CBS's advertisers...


52 posted on 12/31/2005 4:51:27 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: ArmyBratproud
cBS

That's SeeBS to me.

;-)

53 posted on 12/31/2005 4:51:56 AM PST by beyond the sea (If you need a really new idea ..................... read a really old book.)
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To: ArmyBratproud
CBS- Dozens knew about NSA program, so the leaks are ok.

Did CBS happen to mention who in Al Queda knew about the NSA program before the leaks?

54 posted on 12/31/2005 4:53:13 AM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: jim-x; ArmyBratproud
I just hope they AGRESSIVELY pursue the leaker(s) and prosecute them to the full extent of the law!!!

Yeah, give 'em that real tough Sandy Berger treatment.

55 posted on 12/31/2005 4:53:20 AM PST by beyond the sea (If you need a really new idea ..................... read a really old book.)
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To: Kimberly GG

Yes, Kessler was the guy I heard. Thanks for providing a lot more information on the interview.


56 posted on 12/31/2005 4:55:40 AM PST by expatpat
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To: ArmyBratproud

Can your say "Classified Material"? Until it is declassified release is still "Illegal".


57 posted on 12/31/2005 4:58:03 AM PST by stocksthatgoup ("It's inexcusable to tell us to 'connect the dots' and not give us the tools to do so." G W Bush)
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To: Txsleuth
I saw that little b*tch. She has made me sick all week as the overly made-up substitute for Spitball.

Her bugeyes have almost popped out of their sockets the past nights, as her repugnant zeal to get G.W. has transformed her ino a severe nutjob. All week she almost "got wet" thinking about possible troubles for this administration.

She proved herself just another LIBERAL ASS trying to move up on the old/liberal/socialist media chain.

58 posted on 12/31/2005 5:01:55 AM PST by beyond the sea (If you need a really new idea ..................... read a really old book.)
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To: jim-x
The world is changing in which right is powerless and wrong is the norm!

There are members in the higher and lower echelons of this government that are, obviously, even now exercising the power of the "Beast" which is to come and are preparing this nation for its part in the end times!

59 posted on 12/31/2005 5:10:41 AM PST by VOYAGER (M<)
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To: ArmyBratproud

CBS- what a waste of time and space.


60 posted on 12/31/2005 5:23:04 AM PST by truemiester (If the U.S. should fail, a veil of darkness will come over the Earth for a thousand years)
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