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Cornyn Speaks On Immigration (opposes a fence)
The Monitor ^ | December 28,2005 | Victoria Hirschberg

Posted on 12/28/2005 5:36:33 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest

MISSION — U.S. Sen. John Cornyn said Tuesday that building a fence along the southwest border is unrealistic and ultimately would not deter illegal immigration into the United States.

Cornyn, R-Texas, was in Mission on Tuesday to discuss flood control and the Rio Grande Valley levee system, but spoke briefly with the media about immigration issues and his plan to allow workers into the country legally but temporarily. He said he would not support a bill calling for a security fence — which could start in California and end in Brownsville — although the U.S. House of Representatives approved the measure last week. The Senate will discuss the measure when they reconvene next year, and Cornyn said immigration would be a pertinent issue.

He expects a compromise between the Senate and the House on immigration bills.

"(The wall) is a 19th century solution to a 21st century problem," Cornyn said, calling for a more comprehensive immigration plan. Millions of immigrants, both documented and undocumented, cross daily through the southwest border and Cornyn said his bill permits workers to enter for a set time period, calls for increased enforcement at the border and more investigations into employers that hire illegal immigrants.

Hidalgo Mayor John David Franz said he would oppose any wall cutting through his border city.

"I think we need to be looking at amicable solutions," he said. "(A wall) would put us back 100 years. A wall isn’t going to solve anything."


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; borderfence; cornyn; cornynisarino; cornynsaysnofences; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; invasion; surrender
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Same ol same ol from our elected officials. I can tell ya first hand, I am a Texan, born and raised.

We support a big d*mn fence!! Wouldn't mind fixen up a bit a juice to it either.

I'm not against the Mexicans, I'm against illegals.

My brother had a small huntin ranch close to the border and let me tell ya, illegals are a problem. Just so long as he left the rear door unlocked, they'd come in and sleep, maybe take food and such. Lock the doors and they'd trash the place.

I'll never forget though, in the garage was spray painted in huge red letters, "VIVA LA MEXICO". Some of our friends from the south felt leaving a calling card sorta speak.
81 posted on 12/28/2005 7:00:02 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: penelopesire

"How are you going to build a fence in the middle of the Rio Grande?"

How can a blind man be a lookout?


82 posted on 12/28/2005 7:02:14 AM PST by SwinneySwitch (Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men. Luke 2:14)
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To: meema

"Troll."

Typical. Like you said, this conversation is now over. Calling me a troll shows an utter lack of a real argument.


83 posted on 12/28/2005 7:04:06 AM PST by NapkinUser ("Our troops have become the enemy." -Representative John P. Murtha, modern day Benedict Arnold.)
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To: nj26

"Immigration and border security is my #1 issue for 2006 and 2008."

It IS the issue for any American taxpayer with half a brain.


84 posted on 12/28/2005 7:04:25 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Merry Christmas to all our troops at home and abroad!!)
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To: Travis McGee

We shall add Cronyn to the already long list of Quislings.


85 posted on 12/28/2005 7:05:51 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Merry Christmas to all our troops at home and abroad!!)
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To: servantboy777

"My brother had a small huntin ranch close to the border and let me tell ya, illegals are a problem. Just so long as he left the rear door unlocked, they'd come in and sleep, maybe take food and such. Lock the doors and they'd trash the place."

Just curious..Are there laws on the books preventing landowners from fencing their own property if it is on the border?


86 posted on 12/28/2005 7:07:00 AM PST by penelopesire
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Walls can be effective....


1 - East Berlin                      2 - Border area
3 - Backland Wall                    4 - Signal fence
5 - Different kind of barriers       6 - Watch towers
7 - Lighting system                  8 - Column track
9 - Control track                   10 - Anti-vehicle trenches
11 - Last Wall, known as the "Wall" 12 - Border                   
13 - West Berlin 


China
87 posted on 12/28/2005 7:07:53 AM PST by deport
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To: SwinneySwitch

Good comeback...lol. Have you actually read any of the bills floating on Capitol Hill concerning immigration or are you just shooting from the hip on the issue?


88 posted on 12/28/2005 7:08:52 AM PST by penelopesire
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To: penelopesire

He may not be a RINO but he certainly is willing to give up our Sovereignty to help Bush integrate us with Mexico and Canada:

Senate Bill 2941. Sen. Cronyn Establishing a N. American Fund
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c108:S.2941:

Highlights:

SEC. 3. PURPOSES.

The purposes of the Fund shall be--

(1) to promote economic and infrastructure integration among Canada, Mexico, and the United States;

(2) to promote education and economic development in Mexico; and

(3) to reduce the wealth gap between Mexico and Canada, and between Mexico and the United States.

More:

SEC. 4. PROJECTS FUNDED.

(a) IN GENERAL- The Fund shall make grants for projects to carry out the purposes described in section 3, including projects--

(1) to construct roads in Mexico to facilitate trade between Mexico and Canada, and Mexico and the United States;

(2) to develop and implement post-secondary education programs in Mexico;

(3) to install telecommunications technologies throughout Mexico; and

(4) to construct other infrastructure that will carry out such purposes.

More:

SEC. 5. CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE FUND.

(a) IN GENERAL- The terms of the agreement establishing the Fund shall, subject to the limitation in subsection (b), require the Governments of Canada, Mexico, and the United States to contribute to the Fund.


89 posted on 12/28/2005 7:09:46 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: antisocial

Cornyn/Kyl also want the Mexican government to pay the medical bills of illegals and guest workers in the US! I wonder which takes a bigger bite out of our pocket? A fund that helps Mexico become a better place to live and work so that they are not coming here in the millions sounds like a real solution to me. I also like the idea of having Mexico foot the medical bills of their citizens.


90 posted on 12/28/2005 7:16:32 AM PST by penelopesire
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To: meema

What John Cornyn pays for a new suit and a haircut would pay for five miles of new border fence


91 posted on 12/28/2005 7:17:08 AM PST by dennisw (we need a fence!!!)
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To: Publius6961

What about murder?

Millions of dollars, executions, thousands of police investigations, etc.

And we have 15000-20000 murders a year. When are going stop trying to enforce a law that doesn't work?

/sarcasm off/


92 posted on 12/28/2005 7:18:04 AM PST by rcocean (Copyright is theft and loved by Hollywood socialists)
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To: penelopesire

No laws restricting the land owner from fencing any way they choose.

Problem being that if the land owner next to your property does not fence in the same manner, they just go around it.


93 posted on 12/28/2005 7:18:16 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: antisocial

You left out this part:


a) IN GENERAL- The terms of the agreement establishing the Fund shall, subject to the limitation in subsection (b), require the Governments of Canada, Mexico, and the United States to contribute to the Fund.

(b) LIMITATIONS ON CONTRIBUTIONS BY THE U.S. AND CANADA- The terms of the agreement establishing the Fund shall include provisions that permit Canada and the United States to contribute to the Fund only if, during the initial term of operation of the Fund, the Government of Mexico--

(1) increases the tax revenue collected by such Government, with the goal of collecting an amount of such revenue that is equal to 16 percent of the gross domestic product of Mexico; and

(2) carries out a program of economic reforms to increase economic stability in Mexico.

SEC. 6. TERM OF THE FUND.

The terms of the agreement establishing the Fund shall require that the Fund operate for an initial period of 10 years and cease operations at the end of such period, unless Canada, Mexico, and the United States agree to extend the period of operation.

SEC. 7. REPORT.


94 posted on 12/28/2005 7:19:35 AM PST by penelopesire
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To: meema
If the record companies can sue private citizens for violating copyright law (and punitive damages), including little old ladies and small children.

Why can't private citizens sue Companies for violating the IMMIGRATION laws?

These companies aren't just violating the law, they increasing the burden to the tax payer and hurting Americans competing for those jobs.
95 posted on 12/28/2005 7:21:40 AM PST by rcocean (Copyright is theft and loved by Hollywood socialists)
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To: penelopesire

Cornyn/Kyl also want the Mexican government to pay the medical bills of illegals and guest workers in the US! I wonder which takes a bigger bite out of our pocket? A fund that helps Mexico become a better place to live and work so that they are not coming here in the millions sounds like a real solution to me. I also like the idea of having Mexico foot the medical bills of their citizens.

Oh yeah, sure, you betcha. (sarc) The Mexican government receives aid from the USA they do not pay the USA for anything. I can just see Vincente when we send him the bill for indigent med. care, the education of his illegal Mexican children, and the bill for the incarceration of his criminal element. Give me a break. What turkey truck did Cornyn and Kyl fall off of?


96 posted on 12/28/2005 7:23:33 AM PST by Sterco
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To: servantboy777

"Problem being that if the land owner next to your property does not fence in the same manner, they just go around it."

What is the solution? Have the government pay for the entire fence? What happens when you have someone on the border that does not want the fence...regardless of who pays for it? Imminent domain to build the fence? Just curious about the practical implications of the fence...


97 posted on 12/28/2005 7:23:49 AM PST by penelopesire
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To: Sterco

"Oh yeah, sure, you betcha. (sarc) The Mexican government receives aid from the USA they do not pay the USA for anything. I can just see Vincente when we send him the bill for indigent med. care, the education of his illegal Mexican children, and the bill for the incarceration of his criminal element. Give me a break. What turkey truck did Cornyn and Kyl fall off of?"

LOL..better than that truck hauling the manure of Kennedy and McCain...(wink)


98 posted on 12/28/2005 7:25:12 AM PST by penelopesire
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To: NapkinUser
Most of the other 80% aren't pushing for an amnesty.

And what are the other 80% pushing for? Anything?

99 posted on 12/28/2005 7:30:19 AM PST by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: nj26
Immigration and border security is my #1 issue for 2006 and 2008.

That is EXACTLY the message that needs to be included with all communications to congressmen and senators and local PD and judges and dogcatchers and mailmen and......

100 posted on 12/28/2005 7:30:29 AM PST by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA, Minuteman Project AZ Day -1 to Day 8, Texas Minutemen El Paso, 32 Days)
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