Posted on 12/28/2005 5:36:33 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
"How are you going to build a fence in the middle of the Rio Grande?"
How can a blind man be a lookout?
"Troll."
Typical. Like you said, this conversation is now over. Calling me a troll shows an utter lack of a real argument.
"Immigration and border security is my #1 issue for 2006 and 2008."
It IS the issue for any American taxpayer with half a brain.
We shall add Cronyn to the already long list of Quislings.
"My brother had a small huntin ranch close to the border and let me tell ya, illegals are a problem. Just so long as he left the rear door unlocked, they'd come in and sleep, maybe take food and such. Lock the doors and they'd trash the place."
Just curious..Are there laws on the books preventing landowners from fencing their own property if it is on the border?
1 - East Berlin 2 - Border area 3 - Backland Wall 4 - Signal fence 5 - Different kind of barriers 6 - Watch towers 7 - Lighting system 8 - Column track 9 - Control track 10 - Anti-vehicle trenches 11 - Last Wall, known as the "Wall" 12 - Border 13 - West Berlin
Good comeback...lol. Have you actually read any of the bills floating on Capitol Hill concerning immigration or are you just shooting from the hip on the issue?
He may not be a RINO but he certainly is willing to give up our Sovereignty to help Bush integrate us with Mexico and Canada:
Senate Bill 2941. Sen. Cronyn Establishing a N. American Fund
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c108:S.2941:
Highlights:
SEC. 3. PURPOSES.
The purposes of the Fund shall be--
(1) to promote economic and infrastructure integration among Canada, Mexico, and the United States;
(2) to promote education and economic development in Mexico; and
(3) to reduce the wealth gap between Mexico and Canada, and between Mexico and the United States.
More:
SEC. 4. PROJECTS FUNDED.
(a) IN GENERAL- The Fund shall make grants for projects to carry out the purposes described in section 3, including projects--
(1) to construct roads in Mexico to facilitate trade between Mexico and Canada, and Mexico and the United States;
(2) to develop and implement post-secondary education programs in Mexico;
(3) to install telecommunications technologies throughout Mexico; and
(4) to construct other infrastructure that will carry out such purposes.
More:
SEC. 5. CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE FUND.
(a) IN GENERAL- The terms of the agreement establishing the Fund shall, subject to the limitation in subsection (b), require the Governments of Canada, Mexico, and the United States to contribute to the Fund.
Cornyn/Kyl also want the Mexican government to pay the medical bills of illegals and guest workers in the US! I wonder which takes a bigger bite out of our pocket? A fund that helps Mexico become a better place to live and work so that they are not coming here in the millions sounds like a real solution to me. I also like the idea of having Mexico foot the medical bills of their citizens.
What John Cornyn pays for a new suit and a haircut would pay for five miles of new border fence
What about murder?
Millions of dollars, executions, thousands of police investigations, etc.
And we have 15000-20000 murders a year. When are going stop trying to enforce a law that doesn't work?
/sarcasm off/
No laws restricting the land owner from fencing any way they choose.
Problem being that if the land owner next to your property does not fence in the same manner, they just go around it.
You left out this part:
a) IN GENERAL- The terms of the agreement establishing the Fund shall, subject to the limitation in subsection (b), require the Governments of Canada, Mexico, and the United States to contribute to the Fund.
(b) LIMITATIONS ON CONTRIBUTIONS BY THE U.S. AND CANADA- The terms of the agreement establishing the Fund shall include provisions that permit Canada and the United States to contribute to the Fund only if, during the initial term of operation of the Fund, the Government of Mexico--
(1) increases the tax revenue collected by such Government, with the goal of collecting an amount of such revenue that is equal to 16 percent of the gross domestic product of Mexico; and
(2) carries out a program of economic reforms to increase economic stability in Mexico.
SEC. 6. TERM OF THE FUND.
The terms of the agreement establishing the Fund shall require that the Fund operate for an initial period of 10 years and cease operations at the end of such period, unless Canada, Mexico, and the United States agree to extend the period of operation.
SEC. 7. REPORT.
Cornyn/Kyl also want the Mexican government to pay the medical bills of illegals and guest workers in the US! I wonder which takes a bigger bite out of our pocket? A fund that helps Mexico become a better place to live and work so that they are not coming here in the millions sounds like a real solution to me. I also like the idea of having Mexico foot the medical bills of their citizens.
Oh yeah, sure, you betcha. (sarc) The Mexican government receives aid from the USA they do not pay the USA for anything. I can just see Vincente when we send him the bill for indigent med. care, the education of his illegal Mexican children, and the bill for the incarceration of his criminal element. Give me a break. What turkey truck did Cornyn and Kyl fall off of?
"Problem being that if the land owner next to your property does not fence in the same manner, they just go around it."
What is the solution? Have the government pay for the entire fence? What happens when you have someone on the border that does not want the fence...regardless of who pays for it? Imminent domain to build the fence? Just curious about the practical implications of the fence...
"Oh yeah, sure, you betcha. (sarc) The Mexican government receives aid from the USA they do not pay the USA for anything. I can just see Vincente when we send him the bill for indigent med. care, the education of his illegal Mexican children, and the bill for the incarceration of his criminal element. Give me a break. What turkey truck did Cornyn and Kyl fall off of?"
LOL..better than that truck hauling the manure of Kennedy and McCain...(wink)
And what are the other 80% pushing for? Anything?
That is EXACTLY the message that needs to be included with all communications to congressmen and senators and local PD and judges and dogcatchers and mailmen and......
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