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INTELLIGENT DESIGN: Teaching children the truth [Cal Thomas gets it]
Miami Herald ^ | 28 December 2005 | CAL THOMAS

Posted on 12/28/2005 3:49:52 AM PST by PatrickHenry

US. District Judge John E. Jones III's decision to bar the teaching of ''intelligent design'' in the Dover, Pa., public school district on grounds that it is a thinly veiled effort to introduce a religious view of the world's origins is welcome for at least two reasons.

First, it exposes the sham attempt to take through the back door what proponents have no chance of getting through the front door. Jones rebuked advocates of ''intelligent design,'' saying they repeatedly lied about their true intentions. He noted that many of them had said publicly that their intent was to introduce into the schools a biblical account of creation. Jones properly wondered how people who claim to have such strong religious convictions could lie, thus violating prohibitions in the book that they proclaim as their source of truth and standard for living.

Culture has long passed by advocates of intelligent design, school prayer and numerous other beliefs and practices that were once tolerated, even promoted, in public education. People who think that they can reclaim the past have been watching too many repeats of Leave it to Beaver on cable television. Those days are not coming back anytime soon, if at all.

Culture, including the culture of education, now opposes what it once promoted or at least tolerated. The secular left, which resists censorship in all its forms when it comes to sex, library books and assigned materials that teach the ''evils'' of capitalism and ''evil America,'' is happy to censor any belief that can be tagged ``religious.''

Jones' ruling will be appealed and after it is eventually and predictably upheld by a Supreme Court dominated by Republican appointees (Jones was named to the federal bench by President Bush, who has advocated the teaching of creation), those who have tried to make the state do its job for them will have yet another opportunity to wise up.

This leads to the second reason for welcoming Jones' ruling. It should awaken religious conservatives to the futility of trying to make a secular state reflect their beliefs. Too many people have wasted too much time and money since the 1960s, when prayer and Bible reading were outlawed in public schools, trying to get these and a lot of other things restored. The modern secular state should not be expected to teach Genesis 1, or any other book of the Bible, or any other religious text.

That the state once did such things, or at least did not undermine what parents taught their children, is irrelevant. The culture in which we now live no longer reflects the beliefs of our grandparents' generation.

For better, or for worse (and a strong case can be made that things are much worse), people who cling to the beliefs of previous generations have been given another chance to do what they should have been doing all along.

Religious parents should exercise the opportunity that has always been theirs. They should remove their children from state schools with their ''instruction manuals'' for turning them into secular liberals and place them in private schools -- or home school them -- where they will be taught the truth, according to their parents' beliefs. Too many parents who would never send their children to a church on Sunday that taught doctrines they believed to be wrong have had no problem placing them in state schools five days a week where they are taught conflicting doctrines and ideas.

Private schools or home schooling costs extra money (another reason to favor school choice) and extra time, but what is a child worth? Surely, a child is more valuable than material possessions.

Our children are our letters to the future. It's up to parents to decide whether they want to send them ''first class'' or ``postage due.''

Rulings such as this should persuade parents who've been waffling to take their kids and join the growing exodus from state schools into educational environments more conducive to their beliefs.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: calthomas; creationism; crevolist; intelligentdesign; schools; scienceeducation
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To: GOPPachyderm
I am not Guitarman. :)

"Notwithstanding your certainty, Guitarman, in common descent from chipanzees,..."

I don't nor does any scientist believe we descended from chimps. We do share *fossil* viral infections called ERV's though.
121 posted on 12/28/2005 7:35:13 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman (Merry Christmas!!!!)
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To: JamesP81

JamesP81, I seem to recall some untruths being spread by evolutionists, don't you? Piltdown man, Java man, Haeckels drawings, etc.

And yes, these were later exposed as untruths by people seeking the truth. But the fact that the were accepted so readily is because they fit into their theoretical construct.

You might disagree with what some creationists are saying, and in some cases there might be error, but I don't think anyone is deliberately spreading what they know to be "untruths."

I'm reading the new book by Gerald Schroeder (one of the two scientists who persuaded Antony Flew to reconsider whether there is a diety) "the Hidden Face of God." It is a fascinating read and I would recommend it.


122 posted on 12/28/2005 7:35:38 AM PST by GOPPachyderm
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To: js1138

Yes, I do realize that. However, "accepted" does not constitute "fact", "proof", or anything else.

If you haven't realized, I'm not arguing exclusively for evolution, ID, or any other theory in full. I think they all have areas in which they shine a brighter light on understanding this world and the creatures in it. I simply reject that we should close our minds to other theories when the one we've been using still has a lot of holes.


123 posted on 12/28/2005 7:36:26 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: JamesP81
"At what point do we decide to just accept something as fact?"

Facts are not the same as theories. Theories don't become facts.

"You say theories never get proven though. Maybe then there's something wrong with the system as it is."

Nope. Proof is for math and whiskey.
124 posted on 12/28/2005 7:37:32 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman (Merry Christmas!!!!)
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To: js1138

The Bible teaches common descent from one woman and one man, just not Chimps.


125 posted on 12/28/2005 7:38:15 AM PST by GOPPachyderm
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To: SampleMan
No matter what you think about ID or creationism, it certainly doesn't constitute any form of "evil".

Teaching a falsehood when the truth is at hand? I call that evil. It has nothing to do with deity or divinity or deviltry or anything spiritual, but it is evil nevertheless. A quotidian, human evil. A banal evil.

126 posted on 12/28/2005 7:39:00 AM PST by Physicist
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To: GOPPachyderm
"JamesP81, I seem to recall some untruths being spread by evolutionists, don't you? Piltdown man, Java man, Haeckels drawings, etc."

Piltdown man was uncovered long long ago by evolutionists. It was never universally accepted.

Java man is perfectly legit.

Haeckels drawings were not used by Darwin, nor are they used today. His theories were discredited long long ago.
127 posted on 12/28/2005 7:39:52 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman (Merry Christmas!!!!)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

Oops, sorry! The ERV information is interesting, but may prove only that humans, apes and some monkes are susceptible to the same virus. I admit I don't know and it should prove to be a fascinating field of study. My point is that we should take care not to go beyond the evidence.


128 posted on 12/28/2005 7:45:40 AM PST by GOPPachyderm
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To: CarolinaGuitarman; JamesP81

Theories are sometimes disproven, or changed when the facts become known.


129 posted on 12/28/2005 7:47:37 AM PST by GOPPachyderm
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To: Physicist

You are far too self-important. What you hate is people not believing YOU. That's what it comes down to.

So if people don't believe you, and bow down to "your truth" then they're evil.

Here's a question for you. How is your knowledge of evolution in the least bit consequential to human existence?

Again and in little words. Chopping off heads is evil. Being wrong isn't evil.

You must think that the Amish are worse than the SS.


130 posted on 12/28/2005 7:47:46 AM PST by SampleMan
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To: cinives
I simply reject that we should close our minds to other theories when the one we've been using still has a lot of holes.

No one denies that researrch is needed, but only one side is doing it.

131 posted on 12/28/2005 7:47:52 AM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: Physicist
More to the point, you can't recapture what was good about the past by reinstituting what was evil. (Although, to be fair, the evil of creationism was at a low ebb at the time of Leave it to Beaver.)

What is this talk of "good" and "evil"? Without a Creator these expressions of moral umbrage are nothing but meaningless, unintelligible emotive utterances of personal preference.

Cordially,

132 posted on 12/28/2005 7:48:59 AM PST by Diamond (Qui liberatio scelestus trucido inculpatus.)
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To: GOPPachyderm
"The ERV information is interesting, but may prove only that humans, apes and some monkeys are susceptible to the same virus."

Not at the same exact location on the genome. If it just means we have the same susceptibility to a certain virus, the insertions should not be at the same place crosspieces.
133 posted on 12/28/2005 7:49:00 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman (Merry Christmas!!!!)
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To: GOPPachyderm
"Theories are sometimes disproven, or changed when the facts become known."

They are never proven though.
134 posted on 12/28/2005 7:49:40 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman (Merry Christmas!!!!)
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To: GOPPachyderm

I don't know anyone teaching descent from chimps, but descent from a single pair of humans within the last few thousand years would imply an amazing rate of evolution to account for all the diversity among humans.


135 posted on 12/28/2005 7:50:48 AM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

Only nonsense to those with a closed mind who care not to seek answers but rather to quash the questions.


136 posted on 12/28/2005 7:56:08 AM PST by picti
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

Yup, these fakes or frauds were exposed and are not used TODAY to support the theory of evolution.

As I recall, there were some real irregularities behind the JAVA man - where bones were located (some distance from each other), what information was hidden, how they were handled etc. How were these hurdles overcome? What information is available now that has changed the view on Java Man?

When I was in school, Neanderthal and CroMagnum were pointed to as fossil evidence, but today it is recognized that they were as modern man as my Uncle Ollie (elderly German man who had hip problems.)


137 posted on 12/28/2005 7:57:49 AM PST by GOPPachyderm
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

Too bad this has degenerated into another fruitless battle over evolution vs. creation. Cal Thomas' article is really about how Christians are going to survive in today's world, and some of his points are debatable. For example, did the Judge allow himself to be a "useful idiot" for the social Marxists of the ACLU? (Does anyone really think the ACLU cares about "quality science education?) Does the fact that the Judge attends some church mean he is a Christian? (Having visited a liberal mainstream church, I say it doesn't). Does the fact the judge was appointed by a Bush mean he is a conservative? (Judge Souter proves that's not valid either.)


138 posted on 12/28/2005 7:58:03 AM PST by hellbender
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To: js1138

you mean something similar to the diversity between liberals and conservatives ? Seems to me in the last 40 years we've diverged significantly from our predecessors. ;)

Actually, this is what I mean by closing minds. ID is not creationism.


139 posted on 12/28/2005 7:58:34 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: picti
"Only nonsense to those with a closed mind who care not to seek answers but rather to quash the questions."

Great description of creationists. As for evolutionists, they welcome questions and dissent; you just have to play by the rules of science to get into the debate though. Creationists and ID'ers don't want to or can't do that.
140 posted on 12/28/2005 7:58:47 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman (Merry Christmas!!!!)
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