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Bush was denied wiretaps, bypassed them (FISA Court denied them in unprecedented numbers)
UPI ^ | Dec. 27, 2005 | UPI

Posted on 12/27/2005 10:47:23 AM PST by Pragmatic_View

WASHINGTON, Dec. 26 (UPI) -- U.S. President George Bush decided to skip seeking warrants for international wiretaps because the court was challenging him at an unprecedented rate.

A review of Justice Department reports to Congress by Hearst newspapers shows the 26-year-old Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court modified more wiretap requests from the Bush administration than the four previous presidential administrations combined.

The 11-judge court that authorizes FISA wiretaps modified only two search warrant orders out of the 13,102 applications approved over the first 22 years of the court's operation.

But since 2001, the judges have modified 179 of the 5,645 requests for surveillance by the Bush administration, the report said. A total of 173 of those court-ordered "substantive modifications" took place in 2003 and 2004. And, the judges also rejected or deferred at least six requests for warrants during those two years -- the first outright rejection of a wiretap request in the court's history.


TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abovethelaw; alqaeda; fisa; gwot; heroic; homelandsecurity; nsa; patriotleak; spying; terrorattack; terrorism; wiretap; wiretaps; wot
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To: All; doctorhugo

Does anyone think we shouldn't tap this guy's phone? This guy WAS caught as a result of Bush's terrorist wiretaps.

Ohio trucker joined al Qaeda jihad

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1547725/posts

An Ohio trucker has admitted to helping plan al Qaeda attacks in the United States after meeting terror chief Osama bin Laden at an Afghanistan terror training camp.

Iyman Faris, 34, checked out the chances of destroying a New York bridge and tried to buy equipment for proposed al Qaeda attacks while appearing to be a law-abiding trucker, according to documents unsealed Thursday in the U.S. District Court in Alexandria, Virginia.

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Article posted by doctorhugo


161 posted on 12/27/2005 12:05:12 PM PST by Pragmatic_View
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To: Howlin
Reading all this classified information smeared all over the networks and the papers, I have this awful feeling we are heading toward a "Frank Church Hearing" in the spring where once again the liberals will disembowel our intelligence apparatus.

You may be right and if so, I guaran-damn-tee you that Hillary is orchestrating it. I'm holding my breath until the Alito hearings are over. The dems would prefer to set their own hair (read country) on fire than get another conservative on the court, and they will do ANYTHING to prevent it from happening.

But I will say one thing: something is REALLY wrong at the CIA.

Yes, and I don't understand why this administration hasn't yet ferreted out the traitors and do some wholesale firing. Why do you suppose that is?

162 posted on 12/27/2005 12:05:30 PM PST by demkicker
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To: ndt

Who? I want names. A bunch of people doesn't tell me a thing. The Judiciary has never had oversight on the execution of a war and if the Congress wants them to then they have the authority to make that law and pass the buck if they want to. That would be Congressional oversight in the usual pass the buck moment.
Don't give the President a blank check if you don't want him to use it.


163 posted on 12/27/2005 12:05:48 PM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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To: Pragmatic_View
You're welcome.

One of the most useful sites I found (and book-marked) is the Federal Judicial Center.

That has everything pertaining to the Federal Courts with bios of every Federal Judge who has ever served in the history of the USA and is updated daily.

164 posted on 12/27/2005 12:06:05 PM PST by Condor51 (Leftists are moral and intellectual parasites - Standing Wolf)
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To: All
It would seem to me that many of you are upset over absolutely nothing.

A little reality check?

There is not a single law that matters when it comes to spying. What matters are the people you elect.

Those who are trustworthy will follow the laws. Those who are not will not, no matter how many roadblocks you put in their way.

Anyone on this thread who has their panties all in a bunch over this needs to wake the hell up.

165 posted on 12/27/2005 12:06:56 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pragmatic_View
To win a court-approved wiretap, the government must show "probable cause" that the target of the surveillance .....

Is it probable cause when a phone number was in a cellphone captured in Afghanistan....?

To me it is....Bamford didn't want to answer that question.....

166 posted on 12/27/2005 12:09:53 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Dog
Notice the FISA made a ruling on how to interprete the Patriot Act.....and also notice they erected the FAMOUS GORELICK WALL in this order.....interesting.

Sure sounds like they are making New Law ... which is NOT their job to do

168 posted on 12/27/2005 12:19:29 PM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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To: Mo1; Pragmatic_View
From the article.....

The Bush administration, responding to concerns expressed by some judges on the 11-member panel, agreed last week to give them a classified briefing on the domestic spying program. U.S. District Judge Malcolm Howard, a member of the panel, told CNN that the Bush administration agreed to brief the judges after U.S. District Judge James Robertson resigned from the FISA panel, apparently to protest Bush's spying program.

169 posted on 12/27/2005 12:20:11 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ben Mugged

Yeah, but that was just a re-assignment.

They were picked from the current Bench. And I know at least one was a Clinton Appointee before the CJ tapped him for the FISA court.


170 posted on 12/27/2005 12:29:42 PM PST by nuffsenuff (Don't get stuck on Stupid - General Russ Honore Sept 21, 2005)
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To: Pragmatic_View

I don't see the connection between Nixon and Bush. Bush is protecting the people. Nixon was protecting himself. If anything there's a connection between Hillary and Nixon with FBI files.


171 posted on 12/27/2005 12:35:58 PM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: USNBandit

When they say Vietnam era veteran, they are saying he did not serve in Nam, he served while we were fighing in Nam.


172 posted on 12/27/2005 12:38:57 PM PST by mware (everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL.")
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To: speedy

He chooses to not be drawn into that, to the dismay of the left. Good for him. History usually does that anyway.


173 posted on 12/27/2005 12:39:20 PM PST by 1ofmanyfree ("Funny thing about time, it heals all wounds ...and it wounds all heels.")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

"Thanks for the ping....lots to chew on with this thread..."
My brain is in overload. Frigen lib judges are ruining the whole process. Can't add much to our collective disgust on this issue. If a city goes up in a mushroom cloud and the reason behind it is that a judge played games, and refused a critical wiretap, the bastard will get off scott free, and the judge will look with glazed eyes upon anyone that pointed a finger at him. And tens of millions of decent Americans who do not follow any of this other then the tripe and propaganda from the L/MSM just are not seeing how very dangerous things are getting.


174 posted on 12/27/2005 12:42:52 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: AmishDude

Is this judge planning to write a book by any chance???


175 posted on 12/27/2005 12:46:40 PM PST by mware (everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL.")
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To: Marine_Uncle
Amen....

At least the Muslims are trying to do something at their end:

Some Muslims Shifting Tactics on Radicals

176 posted on 12/27/2005 12:49:36 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
"This is just astounding."

They modified only about 3% of Bush's requests. What is so astounding is how few they modified before Bush - almost none.
177 posted on 12/27/2005 12:51:42 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: headstamp
The Clinton's did whatever they felt like while in office like improper IRS audits of adversaries for example.

Didn't BOR get audited something like 3 years in a row during the Clinton Administration???

178 posted on 12/27/2005 12:52:00 PM PST by mware (everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL.")
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To: Steve_Seattle

Amazing isn't it. So much for the talking points of being as easy as pie to get the permission needed.


179 posted on 12/27/2005 12:52:57 PM PST by mware (everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL.")
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To: ContemptofCourt
Unfortunately, it is going to take a Hillary Clinton for some FReepers to snap out of it and start bemoaning this nonsense.

Thank you for saving the Constitution by supporting the rights of terrorists, here and abroad, to speak freely with no risk that the government will listen in. Bravo!!

180 posted on 12/27/2005 12:53:16 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (The Federal Reserve did not kill JFK. Greenspan was not on the grassy knoll.)
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