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Permafrost Could Be Melting, Study Finds
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| 12/26/05
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Posted on 12/26/2005 6:53:57 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
Ack! What would become of the frozen tundra?
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posted on
12/26/2005 7:29:15 PM PST
by
Daus
To: Brad from Tennessee
AP on Yahoo wrote: ANCHORAGE, Alaska - Climate change could thaw the top 11 feet of permafrost in most areas of the Northern Hemisphere by 2100, altering ecosystems across Alaska, Canada and Russia, according to a federal study. Using supercomputers in the United States and Japan, the study calculated how frozen soil would interact with air temperatures, snow, sea ice changes and other processes. The most extreme scenario involved the melting of the top 11 feet of permafrost, or earth that remains frozen year-round.
Brad from Tennessee wrote:"The only thing that is ever permanent is change."
< sarcasm>News bulletin: The number of hours of daylight has dropped from 15 hours to 9 hours in the New York area between June 21 and December 21. I think we need to lay contingency plans for the 100% disappearance of daylight forever, based upon current trends.
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posted on
12/26/2005 7:29:28 PM PST
by
JBGUSA
(If it's us or them, I choose us.)
To: NormsRevenge
Using supercomputers in the United States and Japan, the study calculated how frozen soil would interact with air temperatures, snow, sea ice changes and other processes. GIGO (Garbage In, Garbage Out)
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posted on
12/26/2005 7:29:35 PM PST
by
GOPJ
(War on Christmas? Celebrate the sweetness of forbidden customs -deck the halls with boughs of holly.)
To: Normal4me
The last thing we need is trees growing in Alaska! Ever try drilling for oil with tree roots in the way? ;-)
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+Are you kidding? If it melts all they get is the US EPA all over their buts for wetland protection. The trees have some da*ned owl living in them and before you know it they can't do squat! ;)
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LOL. Poor Eskimos will have to set up cabinet shops and go drill oil in ANWR
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posted on
12/26/2005 7:30:58 PM PST
by
Chickensoup
(Merry Christmas! Merry Christmas! Merry Christmas! Merry Christmas! Merry Christmas! Merry Chri)
To: NormsRevenge
"If that much near-surface permafrost thaws, it could release considerable amounts of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, and that could amplify global warming," said lead author David Lawrence, with the National Center for Atmospheric Research. "We could be underestimating the rate of global temperature increase."
IF COULD
COULD IF
Yeah yeah, Got it.
To: NormsRevenge
"If that much near-surface permafrost thaws, it could release considerable amounts of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, and that could amplify global warming," said lead author David Lawrence, with the National Center for Atmospheric Research. "We could be underestimating the rate of global temperature increase." REMEMBER... Greenland was once inhabited and fertile! Even though the texts 50+ years ago assured us all that that was merely a Nordic "Real Estate Scam" foisted upon gullible Scandinavians being urged to migrate to new "Greener Pastures"!
But..., rest assured, it is all Bush's fault!!!
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posted on
12/26/2005 7:31:41 PM PST
by
ExSES
(the "bottom-line")
To: NormsRevenge
(Voice of John Faceda)
"The cold, barren tundra of Lambeeeeaaauuuu Field is thawing from global warming."
To: NormsRevenge
could...federal study...Using supercomputers...scenario...If...could... could...if...computer climate model... Still trying to find any science in there.
I see people gobbling up federal grant money and designing computer models to justify continued grant money.
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posted on
12/26/2005 7:36:53 PM PST
by
denydenydeny
("As a Muslim of course I am a terrorist"--Sheikh Omar Brooks, quoted in the London Times 8/7/05)
To: NormsRevenge
The tundra will then turn to oil or coal eventually, right? This is a good thing.
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posted on
12/26/2005 7:38:28 PM PST
by
gotribe
(Hillary: Accessory to Rape)
To: NormsRevenge
Climate change could thaw the top 11 feet of permafrost in most areas of the Northern Hemisphere by 2100. Cool, more wetlands for our feathered friends.
To: NormsRevenge
Let's get the oil out before the whole thing melts!
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posted on
12/26/2005 7:44:25 PM PST
by
glock rocks
("God's gift to you is life itself. What you do with it is your gift to God." - Leo Buscaglia)
To: NormsRevenge
I always love the weather historians who try to explain why their yesterday's forecast was wrong? These people can't predict the weather accurately for tomorrow morning and I am to believe them when they try long range stuff? Get real?????
To: ExSES
I was betting that "it's Bush's fault" would be in the first five posts. Hard to believe it took until post 26!
To: Moonmad27
I was betting that "it's Bush's fault" would be in the first five posts. Hard to believe it took until post 26! After all..., it has become a tradition hasn't it? (sic)
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posted on
12/26/2005 7:51:02 PM PST
by
ExSES
(the "bottom-line")
To: NormsRevenge
Not to support the chicken-little aspects of this; but, melting permafrost can be a major pain in the far north.
Houses, in permafrost areas, have to be thermally isolated from the permafrost -- lest it thaws and refreezes. When it melts, the ground becomes gumbo. When it refreezes, huge frost heaves result. Most northern housing is built on crib-work, or jacks -- to keep it above the ground, and so that it can be re-leveled every spring.
Some newer housing is built on space frames, or as a torsion box (rigid plywood covered unit). The entire house shifts with the frost heaves; but it doesn't twist apart like ordinary wood-frame houses do. Each year, the foundation jacks are readjusted -- sometimes by a few feet.
To: ExSES
ExSES wrote:"But..., rest assured, it is all Bush's fault!!!"Remember, Katrina was either Bush's fault or Katrina was a soldier of Islam.
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posted on
12/26/2005 7:53:34 PM PST
by
JBGUSA
(If it's us or them, I choose us.)
To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
Not to support the chicken-little aspects of this; but, melting permafrost can be a major pain in the far north. Houses, in permafrost areas, have to be thermally isolated from the permafrost -- lest it thaws and refreezes. When it melts, the ground becomes gumbo. When it refreezes, huge frost heaves result. Most northern housing is built on crib-work, or jacks -- to keep it above the ground, and so that it can be re-leveled every spring. True, for the inhabited areas this will be a challenge for some time to come. I remember such problems from my days in Alaska...
It is a fact of life that the Earth's climate has cycled through temperature shifts throughout it's existence and (though disrupted) life adjusts and carries on...
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posted on
12/26/2005 7:59:12 PM PST
by
ExSES
(the "bottom-line")
To: ZULU
nd the glaciers returned. And they most certainly will again. Maybe soon...very very soon. In geological terms of course.
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posted on
12/26/2005 8:41:05 PM PST
by
El Gato
To: NormsRevenge
Proof of Global Warming...
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posted on
12/26/2005 8:59:03 PM PST
by
kanawa
(Freaking panty wetting, weakspined bliss-ninny socialist punks)
To: NormsRevenge
I thought permafrost melts all the time. That's why you can't park bulldozers on it.
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