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10,000 gather for Kwanzaa in Chicago
UPI ^ | 12/26/2005

Posted on 12/26/2005 11:33:44 AM PST by ncountylee

CHICAGO, Dec. 26 (UPI) -- The largest annual Kwanzaa celebration of African-American culture in the United States began Monday at Malcolm X College in Chicago.

Ayoka Samuels, a consultant for the college's Kwanzaa committee said a major misconception is that about the seven-day festival is that it's meant to be "the black Christmas," the Chicago Sun-Times said.

Samuels said many who celebrate it do substitute it for Christmas, and if gifts are exchanged, they must be either educational or a symbol of African heritage.

Maulana Ron Karenga, now a professor of black studies at California State University, Long Beach, created Kwanzaa in 1966 as a way to restore a sense of connection with African culture.

Each of the seven nights is devoted to a particular community value: unity, self-determination, collective work and responsibility, cooperative economics, purpose, creativity and faith.

Part of the ceremony is the lighting of seven red, black and green candles, symbolizing sacrificed blood, race and Mother Africa, the Oakland Tribune said.

In Buffalo, N.Y., Denise Renfro said she is proud of the changes in her 10-year-old son since he entered Rites of Passage, an after-school program centered around Kwanzaa principles.

"He brings home good grades, likes school and has never gotten into serious trouble," she said


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
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To: Uncle Vlad

Thanks for looking.


141 posted on 12/26/2005 4:57:02 PM PST by backhoe
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To: Shade2
"Any idea, action, opinion, etc. related to black Americans that isn't complete subservience to Conservative/Republican ideals is immediately used as a childish excuse to degrade black people as has been shown in this thread and a thousand others."

The reason Kwanzaa gets bashed around these parts is not because it's associated with black people, but because its founder is a violent criminal, a liar, and a Marxist. ....and yeah, conservatives typically don't take a shine to those types.

142 posted on 12/26/2005 4:58:15 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: MineralMan

1) Where's St Patrick's Day on that list?

2) What is "cooperative economics"?

3) Is this a holiday for African Americans? What about just plain Africans? Are white people born on the continent of Africa but live in the U.S.A African American's? What about black people living in Europe? Wasn't there some dopey FNC info-babe that said the "roits in France were in the Muslum areas and not French-African-Americans"?


143 posted on 12/26/2005 5:10:59 PM PST by Sunnyflorida
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To: ncountylee

Nice propaganda piece. Human beings are very good at finding creative ways to reject Christ.


144 posted on 12/26/2005 5:13:58 PM PST by winner3000
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To: ncountylee

I used to joke that Kwanzaa was a holiday celebrated mostly by white newspaper editors but it looks like it's gaining some traction. What is important about Kwanzaa is not whether its founder was a marxist or a criminal or even that it is a blatantly racist and racial separatist holiday, it's that the establishment, from the newspapers to the President have no problem with publicly embracing it. Anti-racism is a racist code-phrase for anti-white, a complete moral and intellectual fraud.


145 posted on 12/26/2005 5:29:43 PM PST by jordan8
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To: Mr. Mojo
The reason Kwanzaa gets bashed around these parts is not because it's associated with black people

Don't believe this for a second. You know as well as I do that black bashing is chic on this board.

but because its founder is a violent criminal, a liar, and a Marxist.

And most of the founding fathers owned slaves and wrote slavery into the constitution. Does that make the U.S. bad?

and yeah, conservatives typically don't take a shine to those types.

Conservatives love David Horowitz. And no one is asking you to shine to the man. You don't have to celebrate Kwanzaa. I don't celebrate it. If a person does celebrate it, it is their business. They are no threat to me. Folks should just stop the lies. It's not anti-religion and the website states that no one is expected to give up their faiths. It's not Marxist in that there is nothing political about it. Members of a community cooperating by choice and without government involvement is not Marxist in my book. The folks in my community will come together and pool resources to build a community center, a wall around the subdivision, etc. That is not Marxism. That is a community doing for itself. Plus, their numbers are so small, that it doesn't deserve the attention other than it being an excuse to black bash.

146 posted on 12/26/2005 5:49:21 PM PST by Shade2
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To: ncountylee

Dirk Thompson, a Christian and conservative fill-in talk show host for WTVN 610 AM in Columbus, Ohio just read an article that reveals the truth about this false religion. I applaude his courage but I feel for his career. 610 is fairly conservative but I think there are powers here in Columbus that will not stop until they have his job - regardless of the truth.


147 posted on 12/26/2005 6:00:43 PM PST by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: Shade2

"You know as well as I do that black bashing is chic on this board."

Not really. What gets bashed on this board is two-bit phony baloney political correctness.

What is cooperative economics? I really wonder. Is it marxist?


148 posted on 12/26/2005 6:03:57 PM PST by Sunnyflorida
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To: Shade2; Mr. Mojo

I've seen more statements by many of the Founding Fathers expressing similar abhorrance of slavery. I don't know the percentage of how many owned slaves; but not all did. I would like to know how many. Washington freed all of his in his will.

"It is much to be wished that slavery may be abolished. The honour
of the States, as well as justice and humanity, in my opinion,
loudly call upon them to emancipate these unhappy people.
To contend for our own liberty, and to deny that blessing to
others, involves an inconsistency not to be excused." --John Jay

"[Y]our late purchase of an estate in the colony of Cayenne, with
a view to emancipating the slaves on it, is a generous and noble
proof of your humanity. Would to God a like spirit would diffuse
itself generally into the minds of the people of this country;
but I despair of seeing it." --George Washington


149 posted on 12/26/2005 6:06:04 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: ncountylee
10,000 gather for Kwanzaa in Chicago

I'd like to see a little proof of that.

150 posted on 12/26/2005 6:09:29 PM PST by Cowboy Bob (Liberalism cannot survive in a free and open society.)
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To: Shade2

>>>But of course, we know that the attention given to Kwanzaa from these posters (which probably promotes it) is strengthened because it is associated with the most disdained minority in the country. Any idea, action, opinion, etc. related to black Americans that isn't complete subservience to Conservative/Republican ideals is immediately used as a childish excuse to degrade black people as has been shown in this thread and a thousand others<<<

Oh, fer Pete's sake! Did you bring your little violin to this thread?

WAAAAAAAAAH! They rained on my Kwanzie! I AM A VICTIM! Alert the press!

Quick, call Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton!!! Tell them to bring Looterguy along. And Cindy Sheehan.

Oh, the Humanity!!!!


151 posted on 12/26/2005 6:14:15 PM PST by Palladin (Merry Christmas! God bless us, every one!)
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To: Sunnyflorida
Marxism is a political ideology. A community volunteering to pool its resources without government is called freedom of choice.

Bush understands the difference, and I don't know of a president who has been as much of a unifier as he.
152 posted on 12/26/2005 6:16:38 PM PST by Shade2
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To: backhoe

Very good.....LOL !

Well done .......:o)


153 posted on 12/26/2005 6:16:51 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Shade2
"Plus, their numbers are so small, that it doesn't deserve the attention other than it being an excuse to black bash.

Bashing the criminal founder and his "principles" is not "black bashing." If some white dude with a similar (criminal/Marxist) background invented a new religion that was getting this much press I assure you the criticism around here would be just as enthusiastic. ....perhaps even moreso.

"Conservatives love David Horowitz."

Horowitz is a former Marxist who's now a conservative. ....not exactly the equivalent of Karenga (to understate the matter).

"If a person does celebrate it, it is their business."

Never stated or suggested otherwise.

154 posted on 12/26/2005 6:19:50 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Palladin

Actually the violin should be given to the posters here since while they are crying the blues, folks who celebrate Kwanzaa continue to do so without impediment.


155 posted on 12/26/2005 6:20:57 PM PST by Shade2
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To: Shade2

"Any idea, action, opinion, etc. related to black Americans that isn't complete subservience to Conservative/Republican ideals is immediately used as a childish excuse to degrade black people as has been shown in this thread and a thousand others."

I concur with this sentiment. I've been a member of this board for 7 years (5 under my current user name) and the rhetoric has only gotten worse in the past few years. It's hard justifying/rationalizing being a black conservative when I see what passes as conservatism on this board . . . Christian conservatism at that!


156 posted on 12/26/2005 6:22:47 PM PST by Ganymede
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To: Shade2

Marxism is an economic theory.


157 posted on 12/26/2005 6:27:56 PM PST by Sunnyflorida
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

He's not playing.


158 posted on 12/26/2005 6:27:58 PM PST by Captainpaintball
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To: NHResident
Just what we need - another poster who doesn't understand what they say in a post - go back and read your earlier posts. Just out of curiosity, did you graduate from MIT or some other college with a degree in engineering? That would explain a lot.

What do you have against engineers? Too high of an IQ for your taste?

159 posted on 12/26/2005 6:28:10 PM PST by melancholy
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To: little jeremiah
Here are a few more...

George Washington: "there is not a man living who wishes more sincerely than I do, to see a plan adopted for the abolition of it."

John Adams: "Every measure of prudence, therefore, ought to be assumed for the eventual total extirpation of slavery from the United States…. I have, through my whole life, held the practice of slavery in …abhorrence."

Benjamin Franklin: "Slavery is …an atrocious debasement of human nature."

James Madison: "We have seen the mere distinction of colour made in the most enlightened period of time, a ground of the most oppressive dominion ever exercised by man over man."

160 posted on 12/26/2005 6:39:49 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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