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Defying 'Silent Night' in Pennsylvania [Angry Liberal Christmas-Hater]
Jerusalem Post ^ | Dec. 25, 2005 | Judy Maltz

Posted on 12/25/2005 10:37:22 AM PST by Alouette

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To: Alouette
The amazing thing about the writer of this article:

1) The incredible arrogance.

2) The insufferable smugness and self-love

3) The high intelligence. People like this guy knows you roll over Americans any day with his kind of attitude. Just make people feel bad, that they're being intolerant, and they'll cave and do anything. Some Americans will commit suicide rather than think they are being "racist" or "bigoted".
121 posted on 12/25/2005 1:08:33 PM PST by rcocean (Copyright is theft and loved by Hollywood socialists)
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To: Nathan Zachary; Salem; Convert from ECUSA
there are some bigoted Rabbi's who offer their opinions to the Gemara, and many of these are latter agued out, A person recieving poor guidance would never see those.

It is quite obvious to me that you have received extremely poor guidance and instruction in your alleged "Talmud" study, first of all you can't even spell the word properly, second of all you fail to comprehend that people like Ms. Maltz the Santa Slayer and other liberals do not subscribe to ANY INTERPRETATION OR TEACHING of the "Talmud" in any aspect of their lives, much less to the "bigoted teaching" that is put forth NOWHERE ELSE but by anti-Semites.

And now I am calling some of my Christian friends over here to laugh at you.

122 posted on 12/25/2005 1:10:04 PM PST by Alouette (Jew who breeds like a Catholic)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE; ApplegateRanch

Thanks for the explanation. I'd think, however, that the study of history, to which the original post was referring, would be best done on a rational [rather than instinctive] level.


123 posted on 12/25/2005 1:11:22 PM PST by GSlob
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To: Alouette

This loathesome twit is fortunately balanced by huge numbers of sane Jews both in Israel and here in the States who think she's an idiot. Punch up the original article, then read "Talk Back" at the bottom of the web page--it shows what most Jews in Israel and the States feel about her brand of bullspit. G-d bless them all.


124 posted on 12/25/2005 1:13:53 PM PST by Appalled but Not Surprised
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To: Tuscaloosa Goldfinch
AMEN! Thank you for going on and on!!! As far as a church. I go to a Vineyard Church. You can learn more about the Vineyard churches and find one close to you by going HERE I don't know about ALL Vineyard churches, but I can tell you that our church is RICH in Jewish/Hebrew education and history. We really learn a lot about our heritage, per se. We also do not pass an offering plate. We feel that sometimes money can get in the way- we trust that those that feel lead to give, will- we have offering boxes that people can drop their gifts into if they feel lead to. Our music is incredible. Appearantly the Vineyard churches are known for their music. We mix traditional and contemporary. BUT- I have had AWESOME experiences with Messianic Jewish Temples. They seem to truly embrace us Christians, in my expereince anyway- and are the BEST way to really solidify an awesome foundation......My teacher at our church attended a Messianic Jewsih Temple for over 6 years, and is Hebrew literate, so is his 9 year old son! MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY- and I hope you find a Worship HOME!
125 posted on 12/25/2005 1:14:03 PM PST by eeevil conservative (courage is living in tyranny and speaking for freedom/not living in freedom and speaking for tyranny)
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To: Alouette

Oh the humanity...children singing songs at an extracurricular event about things they don't believe in! Neighbors putting lights on their houses! An American school refusing to squelch its holiday singing celebration because of the objections of a non-American visitor.... oy. What next, being forced to sew yellow stars on their jackets before they walk the streets of State College?

Please, end the suffering of your children now woman! Go back, back to Israel to be part of the "majority" (?)... (done a head count of Jews vs Muslims in that part of the world lately?)

Mazel Tov or whatever the Jewish version is of "Don't let the door hit ya where G_d split ya"


126 posted on 12/25/2005 1:14:34 PM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Alouette
Do some reading before you call names and acuse. This is a Jewish site, and on it you will find what you are questioning. Start there. Just to prove a point of what Christians and gentiles are.

http://www.come-and-hear.com/dilling/p_chapt04.htm

then search the directory. http://www.come-and-hear.com/tindex.html. Make sure you read how it resolves before you rant. It's the point I'm trying to make.

127 posted on 12/25/2005 1:23:48 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Alouette
she'd say that she was terribly sorry, that she had no idea this was offensive to non-Christians, that she had no idea that Dreidel, Dreidel was not the religious equivalent of Silent Night, and the Christmas carols would be removed from the program. But the conversation proceeded along rather different lines

Wow, she was SHOCKED that Christians wouldn't just throw their songs into the trash for the sake of one stupid hyper-sensitive bitch like herself. And yes, I am a JEW saying this. This woman makes me want to vomit. Why not just tell them that "Dreidel" is pap,and suggest more religious Jewish songs? Perhaps insert some material in the handouts with the story of Chanukka and involve your children?

NOOOOO, this liberal wench's only solution is to CENSOR, just because she is either too dim-witted or guilty to teach her son the proud history and legacy of the Jewish people, and why Christians are not only NOT a threat, but among the greatest friends of Israel that exist. That Christians are the reason why this most amazing nation of America exists in the first place. And why it is truly the only safe haven in the world for Jews. It was CHRISTIANS who made that possible, Judy. So as one Jew to another so-called Jew, kinly do us a favor, and STFU!

128 posted on 12/25/2005 1:24:30 PM PST by montag813
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To: Wormwood

Judy is the Jewish turd in a Christian punchbowl, the proverbial partypooper.


129 posted on 12/25/2005 1:24:54 PM PST by ABN 505
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To: Alouette

Something fishy here? None of the "facts" want to google?

I wonder if she let the truth get in the way of a "Hot" story.

PS - is this the same Pa. that has a Jewish
Senator that is one of Israel's biggest supporters?


130 posted on 12/25/2005 1:30:48 PM PST by spanalot
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To: jess35

No. If she really believed that she could have simply taken her kid from the choir WITHOUT all the drama. She moves into an area and then trys to force her beliefs (or lack, thereof) on others.


131 posted on 12/25/2005 1:31:55 PM PST by packrat35 (The America hating bastards at the NYT must spend their entire life with their heads in the toiletat)
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To: Alouette

Here is the solution - one size fits all.

http://instapundit.com/jonathan/audrawishyou.mp3


133 posted on 12/25/2005 1:37:55 PM PST by spanalot
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To: misterrob

... easier advice: home school!


134 posted on 12/25/2005 1:39:06 PM PST by qwertyz
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To: Nathan Zachary
Watch who you call a bigot buddy. If FACT bothers you, that's just to bad. hatred and bigotry exists in the talmud, for example: Sanhedrin 57a : A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work. Am I bigot to point it out? Do Jews follow this? No. At least not that I have ever heard. Could Ms. Mitz have opinions of "gentiles" which are influenced by Talmadic teachings? most certainly. In fact it's quite clear.

A "Cuthean" is a Samaritan. Shows what you know.

Judaism, like every other real religion, believes that it is right and that other religions are wrong. This is not bigotry. Furthermore, the "war on chr*stmas" is not being waged on behalf of the Torah position on chr*stmas (which is that it is an unauthorized pagan holiday that should not be celebrated) but by liberals who regard American chr*stians as "hosts" who have the obligation to suppress their symbols and beliefs and exalt those of the "guests."

Only an ignoramus would confuse the opposition to J*sus of the Theocratic Sanhedrion with the secularism (and hypocritical "guest/host" dichotomy) of the American Civil Liberties Union.

But then, only an ignoramus would assume that if the "old testament" were read on its own without that big, bad Talmud that chr*stianity would leap right off the page. The Qara'im reject the Oral Tradition and Rabbinic authority, and the no more believe in J*sus than Rabbinite Jews do. And besides, attacks on "Jewish tradition" leading people astray from the "truth" were invented by Catholic and Orthodox chr*stians who invented traditions of their own which they consider higher than the "new testament." The Protestant reformation was probably brought about by G-d in part to pay them for this hypocrisy.

PS: If you think the Talmud is rough on gentiles, just try reading the Bible some time . . . but I doubt you can!

135 posted on 12/25/2005 1:39:43 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator ('Az 'egmor beshir mizmor Chanukkat HaMizbeach!)
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To: Alouette
I guess it never occured to her that if she objected to her child singing the song, the easy way would have been to take her daughter out of the program.

This woman thinks the world revolves around her and her family. Just think of the wonderful opportunities she squandered. She and her children could have introduced the community to the rich traditions of Jewish celebrations. They were obviously open to it or they wouldn't have included the song about the dredel in their program.

136 posted on 12/25/2005 1:48:37 PM PST by McGavin999 (If Intelligence Agencies can't find leakers, how can we expect them to find terrorists?)
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To: Celtjew Libertarian
And good on you!  !
137 posted on 12/25/2005 1:49:42 PM PST by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: rawcatslyentist
And those are the choices, as pre-WWII Germany chose them.  !
138 posted on 12/25/2005 1:51:34 PM PST by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: Alouette

She's probably a member of the ACLU and a Commie as well.


139 posted on 12/25/2005 1:53:25 PM PST by csvset
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To: Alouette

I grew up in a Jewish neighborhood in NY. My best friend was Jewish. My family were the only Methodists, and the next door neighbors were the only Catholics. The jews there were the nicest folks!

You know, they make Star of David Xmas tree toppers, and Menorah toppers too.

Christmas is a pagan holiday, banned by the Church, because it too closely emulated the pagan/Roman Saturnalia. Santa comes from Saturn, the Roman G-d of Saturnalia.

The birthday of Jesus was not in December, because the sheperds (see Luke) would not be tending their flocks in the fields by night. Winters there are too tough. December 25th was chosen by the Romans because it was the birthday of Mithra (Mithrae Invictus) and the Unconquered Sun. The winter solstice was 25 Dec back then, now, through calendar error and millenial deficits is 21 December.

Of course the Jewish Star uses the Greek letters Delta (not Hebrew Daleth) for D! No orthodox Jew would use Greek characters! Or would they?

You see, you can take offense at anything.

And Christmas, and its precursor, Saturnalia, are better holidays than Chanakah, which is not even a high holy day.

If you can't stand being the Chosen of the Most High, then get out of the kitchen.


140 posted on 12/25/2005 1:56:25 PM PST by Donald Meaker (You don't drive a car looking through the rear view mirror, but you do practice politics that way.)
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