Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: Nathan Zachary
Watch who you call a bigot buddy. If FACT bothers you, that's just to bad. hatred and bigotry exists in the talmud, for example: Sanhedrin 57a : A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work. Am I bigot to point it out? Do Jews follow this? No. At least not that I have ever heard. Could Ms. Mitz have opinions of "gentiles" which are influenced by Talmadic teachings? most certainly. In fact it's quite clear.

A "Cuthean" is a Samaritan. Shows what you know.

Judaism, like every other real religion, believes that it is right and that other religions are wrong. This is not bigotry. Furthermore, the "war on chr*stmas" is not being waged on behalf of the Torah position on chr*stmas (which is that it is an unauthorized pagan holiday that should not be celebrated) but by liberals who regard American chr*stians as "hosts" who have the obligation to suppress their symbols and beliefs and exalt those of the "guests."

Only an ignoramus would confuse the opposition to J*sus of the Theocratic Sanhedrion with the secularism (and hypocritical "guest/host" dichotomy) of the American Civil Liberties Union.

But then, only an ignoramus would assume that if the "old testament" were read on its own without that big, bad Talmud that chr*stianity would leap right off the page. The Qara'im reject the Oral Tradition and Rabbinic authority, and the no more believe in J*sus than Rabbinite Jews do. And besides, attacks on "Jewish tradition" leading people astray from the "truth" were invented by Catholic and Orthodox chr*stians who invented traditions of their own which they consider higher than the "new testament." The Protestant reformation was probably brought about by G-d in part to pay them for this hypocrisy.

PS: If you think the Talmud is rough on gentiles, just try reading the Bible some time . . . but I doubt you can!

135 posted on 12/25/2005 1:39:43 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator ('Az 'egmor beshir mizmor Chanukkat HaMizbeach!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 101 | View Replies ]


To: Zionist Conspirator; Nathan Zachary
A "Cuthean" is a Samaritan. Shows what you know.

It depends on which translation you go by. In the Israeli site dafyomi.shemayisrael.co.il we have:

1. If a Nochri withheld wages from a Nochri or from a Yisrael, it is forbidden; a Yisrael is permitted to withhold wages from a Nochri.
Now, what is a "Nochri"? Doing a Google search for Nochri we get a big list, one of which is the Wikipedia entry :
The word Gentile (from the Latin gentilis, a translation of the Hebrew Nochri/ðëøé) has several meanings. In the most common modern use it refers to a non-Jew. The word is derived from the Latin term gens (meaning "clan" or a "group of families") and it is often employed in the plural. In late Latin gentilis meant "pagan", and the term gentile has sometimes been used in the past as a synonym for "heathen" or "pagan" (a believer in many gods); this usage is archaic.

In English translations of the Bible the word gentiles is sometimes used as a translation of the Hebrew word goyim; in the King James Version the first and only such use in the Pentateuch is in the book of Genesis 10:5. Christian translators of the Bible use this word in the meaning of non-Israelite, to collectively designate the peoples and nations distinct from the Israelite people; the word is used that way over 130 times in the King James Version of the Bible. In the New Testament the word is used more specifically to indicate non-Jews.

Since Wiki's reliability is sometimes questioned, anybody disputing their the above translation is welcome to do his own search. The other places that come up fairly consistently give it a translation of "non-Jew". See also discussions in Mail.Jewish
159 posted on 12/25/2005 3:11:18 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the hubris to think they will be the planners)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 135 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson