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N.Y., Mass., R.I. lose population as rest of the nation grows
WSTM.com ^ | 12/23/05

Posted on 12/23/2005 2:09:00 PM PST by LdSentinal

BOSTON New York, Massachusetts and Rhode Island were the only states to lose population from 2004 to 2005.

The U-S Census reports that New York lost 26-thousand residents, a tenth-of-a-percent decrease. Massachusetts also had a tenth-of-a-percent decline, losing 8-thousand. Rhode Island lost about 3-thousand, or three-tenths of a percent.

Experts attribute the trend to soaring housing costs, a stagnant job market and the arrival of fewer immigrants.

Most of the states with the largest population growth are in the South and West. Nevada, with an estimated population increase of 3-point-5 percent, was the fastest growing state for the 19th consecutive year, followed by Arizona, Idaho, Florida and Utah.

The nation's population increased by 2-point-8 (m) million, or point-9 percent, to 296 (m) million.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Connecticut; US: Delaware; US: District of Columbia; US: Massachusetts; US: New Jersey; US: New York; US: Pennsylvania; US: Rhode Island; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: bluestates; census; deathtaxes; exodus; hightaxes; massachusetts; moretaxes; newyork; propertytaxes; rhodeisland; salestaxes; tax; taxachussetts; taxes
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To: operation clinton cleanup
In a REAL state, Rhode Island would be a county. No offense to Rhode Islanders!

How true and I once lived there and gave birth to my second child there. I still love RI and love to go back there. Newport is awesome.

41 posted on 12/23/2005 2:49:29 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: RoseofTexas

Let's not forget the other factors that make these states places where nobody in his right mind would open a business (besides ridiculous taxes, of course): an extreme regulatory environment (compounded by a grant and exemption obsession that makes managing a business a nightmare while feeding a colossal army of worthless, snivelling bureaucrats); the highest energy costs in the country; and a union-driven entitlement mentality coupled with a nanny-state workers's comp situation that makes workers too expensive and worthless to pay for.

Eventually, folks have to move where the jobs are -- and where honest businessmen can actually afford to provide those jobs.


42 posted on 12/23/2005 2:50:02 PM PST by Steady Earl
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To: LdSentinal; GatorGirl; maryz; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; livius; ...

Liberals contracept and sodomize themselves into nirvanic utopias. Nothing remains.


43 posted on 12/23/2005 2:52:18 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says “lex injusta non obligat”)
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To: RoseofTexas
Looking at 2008 the GOP needs to hold it's territory, especially OH and FL because the are big and the mountain west states because they are softening.

The Dems need to hold all their states, Minnesota and Wisconsin are very purple and pose problems for the Dims, and pick up an OH or FL.

And since it is easier to hold territory than to conquer territory, the GOP does have a structural advantage right now. So the battleground will be FL, OH, CO, NV, AZ, MN, WI, IA, NH, NM, and possibly MI and PA but those two are less likely to flip than many others mentioned.

Another advantage for the GOP in 2012 is the declining importance of NY, MA. If 2004 was replayed under the 2012 electoral map the GOP could lose OH and still win, but Florida is essential.

44 posted on 12/23/2005 2:53:01 PM PST by NeoCaveman (If we ever banned air conditioning, I think people would move back, - Bob Bennet Ohio GOP)
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To: narses
Liberals contracept and sodomize themselves into nirvanic utopias. Nothing remains.

That's all true, but you forgot they also abort themselves.

45 posted on 12/23/2005 2:54:23 PM PST by NeoCaveman (If we ever banned air conditioning, I think people would move back, - Bob Bennet Ohio GOP)
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To: aShepard

You let that person into your house? Why?


46 posted on 12/23/2005 2:54:57 PM PST by mirkwood ("Americans never quit"--MacArthur)
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To: BookmanTheJanitor
I bet those states will raise taxes even more to cover tax losses (from the exodus). More people will continue to leave and they'll still be wondering why.

Yup, they're in a downward spiral. The libs don't have simple common sense, nor do they understand, Economics and Accounting,

We made both of our children take a minimum of three Economics and two Accounting classes in college. If not, ZERO funding for their education.

Today they're both staunch Conservatives!

47 posted on 12/23/2005 2:57:58 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: dubyaismypresident

Only when plans a and b fail, but yes, I stand corrected.


48 posted on 12/23/2005 3:00:09 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says “lex injusta non obligat”)
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To: csmusaret
We lived in upstate NY for 15 years. When the Beast ewas elected, we decided to move to NC (why anyone would want ot live in FL is beyond me).
49 posted on 12/23/2005 3:00:18 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: dubyaismypresident
Florida got redder from 2000 to 2004 despite or because of it's northern influx. Explain that?

The area from Palm Beach down to south of Miami - Palm Beach, Broward, and Dade Counties, had an earlier influx of New Yorkers, and other undesirables from the northeast. They are older, and have a higher death rate, than the areas in the southwest and central parts of the state. Thus, a lot of the dyed-in-the-wool Commie Libs that live there are at long last beginning to croak.

But the new wave of northeasterners are as likely to come to the Gulf coast, or the central part of the state for one basic reason. Palm Beach, Broward, and Dade Counties are, to a large extent, built out - no more room. Oh, and there is a water issue which impacts those counties more than it will the ones further north.

50 posted on 12/23/2005 3:00:44 PM PST by surely_you_jest
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To: dubyaismypresident

Almost every state got redder in 2004 compared to 2000 just as every state got bluer in 1988 compared to 1984. Florida is getting bluer over time if you check presidential results over the last 20-30 years.


51 posted on 12/23/2005 3:02:20 PM PST by Free Dominoes
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To: Arizona Carolyn
What are they going to do with all the taxpayers are gone and they are left with the rats and welfare

A Republican President will promise that "we will not let the Northeast die" and offer billions of dollars of aid. A Republican Congress will appropriate the money. :-(
52 posted on 12/23/2005 3:04:12 PM PST by cgbg (MSM and Democratic treason--fifty years and counting...)
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To: brushcop
We plan on moving from New England and moving to rural Texas when we retire.

We won't be criticizing the locals because we plan to stay. :-)
53 posted on 12/23/2005 3:07:42 PM PST by cgbg (MSM and Democratic treason--fifty years and counting...)
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To: Radix

Massachusetts will not lose two seats next census, they will lose 1 tops. Even if they did lose 2, why would they stop calling for the abolition of the electoral college? Even the flaming liberals in Vermont would probably be in favour of getting rid of the EC.


54 posted on 12/23/2005 3:08:41 PM PST by Free Dominoes
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To: dubyaismypresident

If the republicans lost Ohio, they would probably also lose Nevada, Iowa and New Mexico as well which are weaker republican states so it would still be game over.


55 posted on 12/23/2005 3:10:06 PM PST by Free Dominoes
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To: surely_you_jest; dubyaismypresident

Oh, and one other thing. Palm Beach, Broward, and Dade Counties are progressively becoming more and more Hispanic and black. Which may be why the transplanted liberals are moving to the southest coast and central areas of the state. ("Do as I say, and not as I do.")


56 posted on 12/23/2005 3:10:26 PM PST by surely_you_jest
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To: cgbg
A Republican President will promise that "we will not let the Northeast die" and offer billions of dollars of aid. A Republican Congress will appropriate the money. :-(

That sounds about right.

57 posted on 12/23/2005 3:11:51 PM PST by surely_you_jest
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To: surely_you_jest

"southest" = southeast Sheesh.


58 posted on 12/23/2005 3:14:16 PM PST by surely_you_jest
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To: LdSentinal

Let's demonstrate the effectivness of the border fence idea by fencing these blue states in before they get out and multiply.


59 posted on 12/23/2005 3:19:55 PM PST by tightwadbob
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To: EnigmaticAnomaly; LdSentinal
Conservatives are moving out of the liberal infested cesspools...

It's as simple as that, but they'll never figure it out!

60 posted on 12/23/2005 3:20:17 PM PST by Rummyfan
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