Posted on 12/22/2005 2:06:56 AM PST by F14 Pilot
TYNDALL AIR FORCE BASE, Fla. - The Air Force's new F-22A Raptor is such a dominant fighter jet that in mock dogfights its pilots typically take on six F-15 Eagles at once.
Despite the favorable odds, the F-15s, still one of the world's most capable fighters, are no contest for the fastest radar-evading stealth jet ever built.
"The F-15 pilots, they are the world's best pilots," said Lt. Col. David Krumm, an F-22A instructor pilot. "When you take them flying against anyone else in the world, they are going to wipe the floor with them. It's a startling moment for them to come down here and get waylaid."
The F-22A officially became ready for combat this month with a squadron of 12 Raptors on standby for worldwide deployment at Langley Air Force Base, Va.
Those who know the Raptor best say it represents a major leap in U.S. warfighting abilities. At this Florida Panhandle base, where all Raptor pilots are trained, instructors say the jet's stealth, speed and ability to electronically scan the battlefield from the air are far superior to any other fighter.
"This is what's next," Krumm said. "The stuff that we have is great and it's capable, but this is what's next."
The Raptor, originally designed for air-to-air combat, was expanded to include a ground attack role. Pilots dropped bombs from Raptors for the first time last weekend in training exercises at Nellis Air Force Base in Nevada.
One of the challenges is finding pilots for the single-seat Raptors, formerly designated F/A-22 to emphasize its ground attack role. The Air Force looks for experienced pilots with a background in fighters and bomb dropping, said Col. Matthew Molloy.
Raptor pilots are former F-15 pilots who have flown a two-seat version, the F-15E Strike Eagle, and also have ground attack experience. The F-16 Fighting Falcon is the Air Force's only other jet that flies both air-to-air and air-to-ground missions.
Eventually, the Air Force plans to take students straight out of pilot training into the Raptor program, Molloy said.
Critics say the Raptor is too expensive at a time when the U.S. already dominates the skies, and that it was designed for a high-tech enemy that no longer exists - the Soviet Union.
The Air Force puts the Raptor's price tag at $160 million per plane, but outside experts estimate they cost more than $350 million each when research and development expenses are added. So far, the Air Force has 56 Raptors, including training and test fighters, at Tyndall, Langley, Nellis and Edwards Air Force Base, Calif.
The current budget plans call for about 180 Raptors, but the Air Force wants more. Tyndall has the largest contingent at 23.
Military leaders say the plane will ensure American air dominance for years to come.
"In any air-to-air fight out there, it is a hopeless mismatch," Krumm said. "What we are more concerned with are countries that want to deny us air space by purchasing surface-to-air missiles and that kind of stuff. Those are very lethal to the way the U.S. deploys."
The Raptor is designed to be especially proficient at taking out such ground-launched missiles because of its speed and stealth. That's something military leaders say could be needed in a fight against potential enemies including Iran or North Korea.
"We want to kick the door down so the air space is clear for any (aircraft) you want to go in," Krumm said. "Someone could come in flying a Cessna 172 with a pistol if you wanted after we're done."
The Raptor's dogfighting capability adds a new dimension to the Air Force's fleet of stealth aircraft. Krumm compared the earlier F-117 Nighthawk and B-2 Spirit to cockroaches.
"They want to sneak in, drop their bombs, and sneak out again. They have absolutely no wish for a fight," he said. "They don't have air-to-air missiles, they cannot maneuver that well or anything else. Our airplane is entirely offensive. Not only am I stealthy, but I'll also hunt you down and kill you if you get in my way." And then there is the Raptor's super cruise capability that lets it fly at supersonic speed without using fuel-guzzling afterburners as required by other fighters. "That saves us a lot of gas and opens up a whole host of things when you start talking about dropping bombs," Krumm said.
"You can imagine if you are 60,000 feet doing mach 1.9 (about 1,400 mph) and these bombs are flying out of your airplane, the swath of hell you can produce going through a country saying 'I'll take that target, and that target'."
Twelve Raptors will head to Alaska in June for their first routine peacetime exercise deployment.
In the meantime, the instructors at Tyndall's 325th Fighter Wing will continue looking for the Air Force's top pilots to fly the world's best fighter jet.
"Langley rapidly needs pilots and we are trying to produce pilots to keep up with the production of the airplanes," Molloy said.
Krumm said one issue is that the plane is single-seater, which means only the most experienced fighter pilots, capable of flying such a high-tech plane solo, will be selected until the program becomes more routine. "When you strap on $160 million of taxpayer money, it's by yourself with me nervously flying alongside you going 'Please don't screw up, please don't screw up,'" Krumm said.
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In a word, "WOW!"
Just wait untile the NY Times gets a hold of this.
Of course we all know that the point of having this capability is that it helps us avoid war!
Sure, no equal as far as what we know about. hehe!
I imagine the left will wet themselves in anguish over the inequality that our military produces.
It's mind boggling when they get upset when they're called un-American, yet they'll come right out and say that our military is too strong and overpowered compared to other countries. One of the more ridiculous arguments I've heard is them comparing our defense budget to that of other countries. They come right out and say that we should lower our military funding to match other countries, in effect to give other countries a better chance at fighting us.
You Sir are preaching to the Choir.
Thank GOD they are not in charge.
I pray they never get back in charge.
IMHO No Country has ever been beaten because they are TOO STRONG.
It always feel good when your country is Number 1
"You can imagine if you are 60,000 feet doing mach 1.9 (about 1,400 mph) and these bombs are flying out of your airplane, the swath of hell you can produce going through a country saying 'I'll take that target, and that target'."
I like the way they think.
Of course these critics are conveniently forgetting that China has upgraded it's best squadrons to the SU-27 and anything else they can get their hands on.
You should all read this site. It's mind-numbing.
Ping...
As a Special Forces C130 pilot once told me, "If you ever find yourself in a 'fair' fight during war, you screwed up very badly."
I do remember a few years back that Israeli pilots embarrassed US pilots during war games.
Anyone else remember that?
Or until the technology is stolen ... or bartered for a campaign contribution by the next Clinton in the White House.
The Vayrag is not something to be taken lightly. Fully equiped it would approach a 65,000 ton displacement and embark 40-50 modern jet fighter and attack aircraft. As such, it would be the equal (it is in fact a newer design) to the Russian Kuznetzov and would be the largest carrier in the world outside of America's super-carriers.
In the event of hostilities, this CHICOM carrier would be sent to Davy Jones's Locker within minutes. The US has so many ways to 'implement that'. Don't 'numb your mind' needlessly...
And more recently wasn't it Indian Fulcrums against Eagles, and the results were... disappointing?
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